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Cowcaster posted:did someone bring it up that apparently A) the 2nd best selling game (including digital downloads) of 2017 so far is For Honor, and 2) has simultaneously hemorrhaged 95% of it's population over the past 3 months or so I think the idea behind a For Honor is cool but 80% of the clips is see from it are cheap deaths caused by bad net code. Additionally, it's hard to keep a player constantly engaged in your multiplayer game. I come back to Overwatch for their special events but that means I'm ignoring Battlefield, Call of Duty, Rainbow Six, and Street Fighter. And I prefer single player experiences anyway. That article isn't completely fair either, since it compares current player counts to the high during beta. A $60 wall will keep out a huge majority of people coming from a free trial.
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LawfulWaffle posted:I think the idea behind a For Honor is cool but 80% of the clips is see from it are cheap deaths caused by bad net code. Additionally, it's hard to keep a player constantly engaged in your multiplayer game. I come back to Overwatch for their special events but that means I'm ignoring Battlefield, Call of Duty, Rainbow Six, and Street Fighter. And I prefer single player experiences anyway. the analytics site that ign took the information from takes that into account: http://www.githyp.com/for-honor-lost-over-half-of-its-playerbase-in-its-first-two-weeks-on-steam/ http://www.githyp.com/for-honor-has-now-lost-95-of-its-playerbase-worse-than-the-division-1-year-ago/
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Jun 6, 2017 22:14
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I like For Honor and the combat is quite awesome when it works but I'd say it suffers from a small concentration of big problems. I almost never complain about balance in games but there are just some crippling balance issues exacerbated by a lack of visual consistency, which for a fighting game is just unforgiveable. I think these problems have come more into relief in recent weeks with the release of the Centurion who is just zero fun to play against 1v1. Also Injustice 2 just came out and I feel like I'm on a way more even level with the scrubs in ranked play.
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Jun 6, 2017 22:16
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Wasn't the netcode for that game really bad? That seems like a big deal for what's basically a fighting game it was p2p and had issues but the better explanation is that it was a fighter that courted casual players hard and had nothing for them to stick around for, had no tournament scene to create interest or generate esports hype, and was an outsider to the traditional fighting game community that would normally support a fighter long term. They also lost a ton of people with their dlc scheme and they even had a weekend boycott organized against them by a few thousand players and that hurts i guess Also the game is really bland thematically so the people that love characters cant even get attached. Like they released a game staring generic armor dudes in a genre that has been fueled by personality since streetfighter came out and they wonder why it has no legs. Arms would be in a similar boat but people already want to gently caress the noodle girl so its gonna be a big deal for a while i bet.
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Jun 6, 2017 22:19
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Mordja posted:So this is far from scientific, but despite going F2P ("No it's not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" - Randy Pitchford), Steamcharts shows under 400 people playing Battleborn as of 35 minutes ago. I mean, that's way better than the ~100 it's had for the past month. It's up to 874 right now, too, don't call it a comeback!!!
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Jun 6, 2017 22:35
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I want to be able to watch the new season of Twin Peaks so I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get through season 2. 22 episodes of varying quality is an intimidating concept though.
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Jun 6, 2017 22:48
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I am glad that Arms is coming out so that if I get a Switch I can continue on my fighting game kick away from my PC and PS4
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PantsBandit posted:I want to be able to watch the new season of Twin Peaks so I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get through season 2. 22 episodes of varying quality is an intimidating concept though. As someone who's been slowly making his way through season 2 for a while, I can say there's at least 11 good ones in there before you hit the "oh my goooooooooood".
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Real hurthling! posted:Arms would be in a similar boat but people already want to gently caress the noodle girl so its gonna be a big deal for a while i bet. iirc Nintendo have already said arms is gonna get post release support so I can see it being a pretty reasonable success along the lines of splatoon. Especially if it gets the same treatment that splatoon did where there was like, a year of events and new free content. I hope it does well because it looks like a fun game.
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Jun 6, 2017 22:58
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Splatoon's continued support was awesome. I hope Splatoon 2 is the same way but I wonder if since it's a proven quantity and has an established audience they will think it's OK to start charging people for DLC.
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For Honor is struggling because:
Having said that, it's truly trying to do something different in the melee fighting space and it's worth ~20 bucks to play the experiment, IMO. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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PantsBandit posted:I want to be able to watch the new season of Twin Peaks so I'm finally taking the plunge and trying to get through season 2. 22 episodes of varying quality is an intimidating concept though. The first part of season 2, up to the reveal of Laura Palmer's killer is as good as anything in season 1, and the denouement is absolutely harrowing. Then David Lynch pretty much exited the show, leaving us with plotlines like "James Hurley does America." Well, a very small part of America, at least. To be honest, it's not all bad, just aimless and big on the quirk. I didn't hate Windom Earle as much as some people did, and Ben Horne, Confederate general was dumb enough to be funny. Lynch did come back at the end, though, and the finale is absolutely must-see TV.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:18
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Yeah im in at 19.99 in the holiday sale like seige last year.
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Mordja posted:The first part of season 2, up to the reveal of Laura Palmer's killer is as good as anything in season 1, and the denouement is absolutely harrowing. Then David Lynch pretty much exited the show, leaving us with plotlines like "James Hurley does America." Well, a very small part of America, at least. Am I going to miss anything super important if I look up "worst episodes of season 2" and just skip those? I understand that there are a lot of callbacks in the new stuff but I don't generally see the value in spending hours on end watching something I don't enjoy.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:29
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PantsBandit posted:Am I going to miss anything super important if I look up "worst episodes of season 2" and just skip those? I understand that there are a lot of callbacks in the new stuff but I don't generally see the value in spending hours on end watching something I don't enjoy. Watch until you know the whole laura murder story and stop for a while. Once you bake in how epic it was for a while, watch the rest. Windham earl is at least entertaining and the end of the series is lynchs return so a lot of bad things disappear and theres a quality spike
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PantsBandit posted:Am I going to miss anything super important if I look up "worst episodes of season 2" and just skip those? I understand that there are a lot of callbacks in the new stuff but I don't generally see the value in spending hours on end watching something I don't enjoy. Well both the main villain, and Coop's love interest are introduced and developed, both of whom are instrumental to the last episode. So I'm gonna say, "maybe?"
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:For Honor is struggling because: these all seem like well reasoned and interesting points but i'm sticking to my guns of "3 million people bought a copy because of an ad they saw and ditched it in a month" Cowcaster fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Cowcaster posted:this all seem like well reasoned and interesting points but i'm sticking to my guns of "3 million people bought a copy because of an ad they saw and ditched it in a month" This is the endgame of games as a service.
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Cowcaster posted:this all seem like well reasoned and interesting points but i'm sticking to my guns of "3 million people bought a copy because of an ad they saw and ditched it in a month" Actually, the number of active players from the Beta -> Release dropped. I think what happened is the game had a great E3 showing and a broadly popular concept, and plays well and is novel for the first 3 hours or so, so the free open Betas essentially acted as demos and on-board a bunch of people. Also, ads, like you said. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Jun 6, 2017 23:50
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PantsBandit posted:Am I going to miss anything super important if I look up "worst episodes of season 2" and just skip those? I understand that there are a lot of callbacks in the new stuff but I don't generally see the value in spending hours on end watching something I don't enjoy. Just watch the whole show it's not even that long
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Cowcaster posted:i'm banking it all on "marketing beats quality, every time". note that the greatest selling game of the year of our lord 2017 so far is tom clancy's wildlands, which is a wet diarrhea squirt and i would bet has had a similar playerbase holocaust, and yet was advertised on a shitload of streaming services leading up to release. I find it really bizarre that with all the amazing games to come out in 2017 like Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, Horizon Zero Dawn, the new Fire Emblem, etc., a lovely overhyped multiplayer shooter outsells all of them. Serious question, are any of these actually good or is it just dating sims and porn games? The only VNs I've played are FSN and Hatoful Boyfriend which I understand are not particularly representative of the rest of the genre.
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The Shortest Path posted:I find it really bizarre that with all the amazing games to come out in 2017 like Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, Horizon Zero Dawn, the new Fire Emblem, etc., a lovely overhyped multiplayer shooter outsells all of them. to be fair, the article listing the top sellers mentions that breath of the wild's numbers do NOT include digital downloads where for honor and wildlands' listings do, and it still manages to come in at #3. that said though, i don't think digital downloads are really a thing on the switch right? so it could end up being negligible edit: also horizon zero dawn is right behind at #4
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Zelda and Horizon are both big hits but like 12 people outside of this forum + Japan even know what Persona 5 is.
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Multi-platform releases will always sell more than platform exclusives. I am guessing that's how NieR: Automata sold over a million
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exquisite tea posted:Zelder and Horizon are both big hits but like 12 people outside of this forum + Japan even know what Persona 5 is. How I envy their ignorance.
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Persona 5's NA sales are actually kinda disappointing. They aren't terrible; they just barely hit P4's lifetime sales on PS2 during the release window (~340k) so they'll probably pass that, though the tail on P5 sales looks loving terrible. I was hoping it'd be a surprise blockbuster, and there were some initial signs it might. Japanese sales were higher than Persona 4, reviews were outstanding, marketing was better, and I had several friends who aren't really "hardcore gamers" or w/e talking about it on social media.
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exquisite tea posted:Zelda and Horizon are both big hits but like 12 people outside of this forum + Japan even know what Persona 5 is. The thing that worries me is that because Horizon was outsold by at least one other game then video game executives will see that as "You see? Non buff-white-dude protagonists just don't sell." I also assume they ignore the things Nintendo does because Nintendo is its own little world.
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exquisite tea posted:Zelda and Horizon are both big hits but like 12 people outside of this forum + Japan even know what Persona 5 is. Yeah... 
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Lurdiak posted:How I envy their ignorance. same
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The Shortest Path posted:I find it really bizarre that with all the amazing games to come out in 2017 like Persona 5, Breath of the Wild, Horizon Zero Dawn, the new Fire Emblem, etc., a lovely overhyped multiplayer shooter outsells all of them.
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exquisite tea posted:but like 12 people outside of this forum + Japan even know what Persona 5 is. http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million persona 5 sold about 600-700k in japan. please account for the other 800ish k.
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chumbler posted:The thing that worries me is that because Horizon was outsold by at least one other game then video game executives will see that as "You see? Non buff-white-dude protagonists just don't sell." I also assume they ignore the things Nintendo does because Nintendo is its own little world. Horizon sold a million copies in the last 2 months (like 1/3rd of its sales) so its got staying power and holiday will probably be big spike too. its doing very good for new ip in context of that fact.
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splatoon 1 outsold bloodborne, with new IPs you have to accept that sometimes internet communities don't represent actual mainstream awareness
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Endorph posted:http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million Sounds like SA is blowing up again BABY!
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Endorph posted:http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million this is weird bc the stats I just looked at said under 300k for north america assuming it's not just shipped copies rotting on shelves everywhere I'm glad of it tho
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wizard on a water slide posted:Persona 5's NA sales are actually kinda disappointing. They aren't terrible; they just barely hit P4's lifetime sales on PS2 during the release window (~340k) so they'll probably pass that, though the tail on P5 sales looks loving terrible. Matching your predecessor's lifetime sales right out of the gate sounds pretty drat good? Especially since Atlus goes pretty hardcore on picking up post-launch sales with pricecuts.
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wizard on a water slide posted:this is weird bc the stats I just looked at said under 300k for north america did you look at vgchartz or what edit: also i mean, it also topped charts in the uk.
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chumbler posted:The thing that worries me is that because Horizon was outsold by at least one other game then video game executives will see that as "You see? Non buff-white-dude protagonists just don't sell." I also assume they ignore the things Nintendo does because Nintendo is its own little world. I mean, we've had plenty of examples of female leads and non white dude leads, it's just that games companies have become so incredibly risk-averse that things that would have flown back in the day suddenly don't anymore. where is beyond good and evil 2 ubisoft you fucks
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wizard on a water slide posted:this is weird bc the stats I just looked at said under 300k for north america Is your "stats" vgchartz? Because loving lol.
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