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evilweasel posted:Yeah, Comey is saying, without saying it, that the Flynn request was obstruction of justice. Problem is that he also basically says Trump didn't obstruct the overall Russia investigation (except with regard to Flynn specifically) and I bet that Republican senators are going to focus on the latter. This is a good point, but I expect the leaks from the IC are far from done. 
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ekeog posted:I think the line about "we decided to keep [Trump's request to drop the Flynn investigation] very closely held, resolving to figure out what to do with it down the road as our investigation progressed" indicates that though they saw this as obstruction re: Flynn, they wanted to hold onto it to see if down the line it would be part of some kind of larger case. This is a pretty obvious paraphrase for "we're building a paper trail on this".
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I like this little anecdote.quote:The President signaled the end of the briefing by thanking the group and telling them all that he wanted to speak to me alone. I stayed in my chair. As the participants started to leave the Oval Office, the Attorney General lingered by my chair, but the President thanked him and said he wanted to speak only with me. The last person to leave was Jared Kushner, who also stood by my chair and exchanged pleasantries with me. The President then excused him, saying he wanted to speak with just me.
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Jun 7, 2017 19:07
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The Glumslinger posted:Its like reading House of Leaves all over again ha, that's exactly what it reminded me of, you're right. PISSTAPE should appear in purple font everytime
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, Comey is saying, without saying it, that the Flynn request was obstruction of justice. Problem is that he also basically says Trump didn't obstruct the overall Russia investigation (except with regard to Flynn specifically) and I bet that Republican senators are going to focus on the latter. Well, in that meeting yes, but the later meetings about the whole Russia "cloud" seem like him trying to get the who investigation to go away
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Flesh Forge posted:This is a pretty obvious paraphrase for "we're building a paper trail on this". Especially given his reasoning for refusing to share it. It sounds like they all sensed this could be the beginning of a larger case and they didn't want it out in the open yet.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Evil Weasel explained earlier how this was expected procedure. Okay, I assume that's in the "if they want to pass their own variant on the bill, they need to do this way." So, I guess I just have to worry about another "wait, what the gently caress? we didn't mean to override the Preisdent's vet on this bill! gently caress! gently caress!!! This is the president's fault!" moments.
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Why are so many people getting hyped for pisstape from this? Just bad reading comprehension, or simply because we've all wanted it for so long?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Why are so many people getting hyped for pisstape from this? Just bad reading comprehension, or simply because we've all wanted it for so long? Well, Comey says that Trump directly refuted the hooker claim, so that one obviously got to him more than everything else in the Dossier
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That seems like the last thing you'd want to do. Also, ignoring the "PISS TAPES REAL" (which they are, why would he try to start an investigation into proving they're false), there was a ton of incriminating stuff in the Steele Dossier that wasn't about piss.
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evilweasel posted:I don't see anything serious that wasn't expected in here. The key things seem to be (a) Comey confirming that he offered Trump assurances that he was not "personally under investigation" three times, though what that means is an open question; (b) Trump twice asked him to pledge loyalty to Trump and (c) facts suggesting that Comey was fired for failing to announce Trump was not personally under investigation. Trump, in extremely John Miller voice: They weren't hookers. I didn't pay them. They volunteered.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Why are so many people getting hyped for pisstape from this? Just bad reading comprehension, or simply because we've all wanted it for so long? trump is very, very focused on it and getting official fbi statements it doesnt exist
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The Glumslinger posted:Well, Comey says that Trump directly refuted the hooker claim, so that one obviously got to him more than everything else in the Dossier It's probably the only thing he could understand. I mean, I kinda think the pisstape is real, I just don't think Jim Comey is gonna drop that casually into a prepared statement
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"I didn’t move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the awkward silence that followed. We simply looked at each other in silence. "
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Why are so many people getting hyped for pisstape from this? Just bad reading comprehension, or simply because we've all wanted it for so long? Trump lost his poo poo when told about pisstape, and repeatedly insisted it wasn't true in multiple conversations. Obviously people can react to stunning news or tragedy in weird ways and its dangerous to convict someone in court based on their reactions, but.... this is how Trump typically reacts to bad news that is true.
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The Glumslinger posted:Well, in that meeting yes, but the later meetings about the whole Russia "cloud" seem like him trying to get the who investigation to go away Seems like Trump wanted the investigation to end so it could confirm his innocence, I'm not seeing much about Trump attempting to halt it prematurely.
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evilweasel posted:trump is very, very focused on it and getting official fbi statements it doesnt exist Which, knowing Trump, means the piss tape is real.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:It's probably the only thing he could understand. comey won't confirm it, but trump is basically confirming it 
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" Reince Priebus leaned in through the door by the grandfather clock and I could see a group of people waiting behind him. The President waved at him"
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"I didn’t move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the What face do you think trump was making
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I wonder how US military personnel based in Qatar feel about being put at risk due to Trump's criminally incompetent handling of this diplomatic mess. They're angry and then they'll vote GOP next election.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"I didn’t move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the Comey is Ricky Gervais here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmHIgCbAhNI
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WeAreTheRomans posted:It's probably the only thing he could understand. It probably is. Chimp's denial - "I knew I was being filmed in Russia all along" - sounds to me like someone who is pranked and then tries to play it off: "Oh, I knew that was there. I just wanted to make you laugh by looking like I fell for it". F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:Seems like Trump wanted the investigation to end so it could confirm his innocence, I'm not seeing much about Trump attempting to halt it prematurely. That is true, but thankfully we don't need Comey to tell us that Trump was trying to end the Russia investigations, because he already outright admitted it to the loving Russians while bragging about firing Comey in the oval office.
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Piss tape baybeee Piss Tape baby Piss tayayape that where where its at
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:Seems like Trump wanted the investigation to end so it could confirm his innocence, I'm not seeing much about Trump attempting to halt it prematurely. Then he fired Comey for not ending it prematurely.
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fatherboxx posted:The Cloud! But let me tell you about this island...
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Can someone remind me who, according to the original dossier, actually has access to the piss tape, and how the dossier's author knows about it?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Why are so many people getting hyped for pisstape from this? Just bad reading comprehension, or simply because we've all wanted it for so long? Unverified "salacious" stuff about Trump that infuriated him, he didn't meet any hookers in Russia and always assumed he was being recorded in Russia. It's not very hard to connect the dots there. It certainly could be something else but the obvious answer is Comey came to Trump about the pisstapes, Trump was enraged and so Comey reassured him he wasn't personally under investigation to calm him down. The piss tape won't bring Trump down it's just hilarious. My takeaway from the statement: -Comey talked to Trump, one-on-one in private because it was salacious and would save him from embarassment. Probably pisstapes. -Trump was not personally under investigation. -Trump asked for Comey's loyalty and Comey offered only honesty. -Trump committed obstruction of justice by asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, but Comey thinks he wasn't trying to end the Russia investigation overall. -Comey was fired for not pledging loyalty and backing off of Flynn.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Can someone remind me who, according to the original dossier, actually has access to the piss tape, and how the dossier's author knows about it? the russian intelligence services, and because someone blabbed to his sources about having it
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Rigel posted:That is true, but thankfully we don't need Comey to tell us that Trump was trying to end the Russia investigations, because he already outright admitted it to the loving Russians while bragging about firing Comey in the oval office. While telling them classified info. I mean it's real easy to forget in the neverending torrent of poo poo that is Trump.
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release the long-form piss tape!!!!
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:It probably is. Trump's denial - "I knew I was being filmed in Russia all along" sounds to me like someone who is pranked and then tries to play it off: "Oh, I knew that was there all along; I was just playing so that you'd laugh". yeah, that too. I couldn't put my finger on why I also strongly believed in pisstape after reading this, but thats a big part of it. "Hey come on, like... I knew I'd be recorded, so obviously I wouldn't do something stupid, right? heh... heh?" No you didn't, Donald. You totally believed you had privacy and now you are being blackmailed.
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