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Have I mentioned how much Indiana sucks? Pride Month Walking Dead variants. I caught him as he was unbagging a third copy. I called the police on my phone as I followed him out of the store, they arrived before he could get to his car. They said he could pay for the damage or they'd write him a $200 vandalism ticket. He's also banned from the property for life.
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Rhyno posted:Have I mentioned how much Indiana sucks? What a loving piece of poo poo.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:48
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Rhyno posted:Have I mentioned how much Indiana sucks? That sucks, but it also seems weird to me for The Walking Dead of all comics to have a Pride month alternative cover. Maybe it's changed, but I quit reading after the first trade or two partially because of how annoyingly heternormative it was.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:52
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Pride covers are line wide. edit: I quit a while ago, but I remember gay couples in TWD.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:55
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WTF at your customer AND that cover jeez what
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Jun 8, 2017 03:45
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Synthbuttrange posted:WTF at your customer AND that cover jeez what He wasn't a customer. There is a group called the "Fort Wayne Christian Coalition" and this is the 4th time in recent memory that they have sent someone into damage or steal comics with homosexual content. It just dawned on me that there were a bunch of new faces looking for the Planned Parenthood covers but you couldn't even tell that those were special covers. Over the last 6 years I have had people come in and try to steal or destroy (and when that fails buy every copy) of Earth 2 #2 (gay Alan Scott), All New X-Men #36 (gay Iceman), the PP covers and now this Pride cover. I'm just going to avoid this entirely and put them all behind the counter.
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Jun 8, 2017 04:15
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Rhyno posted:Over the last 6 years I have had people come in and try to steal or destroy (and when that fails buy every copy) of Earth 2 #2 (gay Alan Scott), All New X-Men #36 (gay Iceman), the PP covers and now this Pride cover. I'm just going to avoid this entirely and put them all behind the counter. You could call their bluff, is what I'm saying. With ten thousand copies of their next target.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:00
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Nessus posted:Can you return unsold issues? Only on rare occasion. Like with Rebirth but nobody cared about Batwoman this time around. I've tried to reason with these people but they will not listen. They are convinced that comic books are for children and that they must protect the children. Fun Fact: the closest I have ever come to an assault charge involved the head of their ministry.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:05
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I don't know how you make a gay pride cover for a zombie comic, but I do know that's definitely not it. Sucks that people have to be assholes about it, in any case.
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Jun 8, 2017 13:32
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Yeah destroying comics and private property is just like... What the gently caress man?
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Jun 8, 2017 14:59
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Talked to my coworkers, a couple was in last night and they INSISTED that we remove the remaining copies from view because "a child might buy that." Yeah because we sell 17+ rated books to children every goddamned day.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:20
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How much of a loser do you have to be to go destroy some comic books?
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Jun 8, 2017 16:23
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Rhyno posted:Have I mentioned how much Indiana sucks? i live in central indiana and the amount of bullshit ive heard from people complaining about "gays shoving their sexuality in my face" poo poo over the years is unreal. i mean, most people are well-intentioned and accepting where i live (even though its an extremely small town of like <2000) but anyone that doesn't want to be seeing stuff like pride comic covers or lgbt representation in movies just loves to spout off about it to anyone who won't tell them to shut the gently caress up.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:24
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Roth posted:How much of a loser do you have to be to go destroy some comic books? He looked like his parents were siblings. Edit: Please don't share this outside of BSS for now, my boss told me we are working on a legal response to the FWCC's continued behavior. It's difficult because they are not an actual church nor do they have a headquarters, they meet in public places or private homes so there's no legal entity to approach. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Jun 8, 2017 16:31
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Hopefully they never get their hands on Seduction of the Innocent, as it makes the claim Batman and Robin are more Topman and Bottom. God drat Wertham, you Comstocking rear end.
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Jun 8, 2017 17:29
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That really sucks, Rhyno. Just remember there are more good folks than bad.
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Jun 9, 2017 07:29
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Medullah posted:That really sucks, Rhyno. Just remember there are more good folks than bad. True, just not in Indiana.
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Jun 9, 2017 08:01
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Okay, enough hate (until the next pride cover anyways) let's talk about Marvel's bullshit saome more! As you may recall, I posted a cap from my invoice that showed the free copies of All New Guardians #2. I'm not going to go into details (mostly because I didn't do the homework) but it has been verified that Marvel counts the overship copies as part of the overall copies sold. For those that do not know, Diamond tracks copies sold as the number of copies ordered by the direct market, not actual number of copies purchases in the stores. Anyways, in previous instances when I have brought this up there has been some disbelief. Well hopefully this helps convince those who doubt.  There you go. We ordered 12 copies of ANG #3, advance reordered 7 more and they send us TWENTY-NINE additional copies at no charge. This incredibly odd practice is a major part of how Marvel keeps their market share lead over DC. A vocal long time retailer has been making some waves with this information. He polled 100 shops and found different overages all over the country. For the third Wednesday in May he accounted for over 3000 overshipped Marvel comics. And that was just a tiny poll from a small chunk of the market. He figures Marvel might be overshipping 10,000 books a week across an array of Diamond accounts just to pump their numbers. It's mind boggling.
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Jun 9, 2017 08:38
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Why would stores possibly complain about this practice? You're getting free stuff that you can give away as promotional material or sell for essentially pure profit. What's the big deal?
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Jun 9, 2017 11:41
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Jordan7hm posted:Why would stores possibly complain about this practice? Beyond it being an incredibly lovely business practice to essentially make the company look better than it is? a lot of the times they don't sell, they're just chaff. The other issue is that by overshipping books to prop up numbers, Marvel isn't letting the public decide which books it actually likes, which ones it doesn't, and what the fans want. If you overship a book that everyone is going to buy, then that's one thing. If you're going to overship Mosaic #2, then you're going to have 50 issues of toilet paper.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:10
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Pretty sure marvel actually knows how many of their books are being given away for free even if Diamond doesn't and tha information is part of what drives their decisions to keep or cancel books. On the other hand this is an industry where retailers make a fuss when they get free product so who knows.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:24
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Onmi posted:Beyond it being an incredibly lovely business practice to essentially make the company look better than it is? a lot of the times they don't sell, they're just chaff. The other issue is that by overshipping books to prop up numbers, Marvel isn't letting the public decide which books it actually likes, which ones it doesn't, and what the fans want. They sell. We sell them for a dollar, and it gets people to check out a book they don't normally buy. That new issue of Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty cool too. Or the books get donated.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:01
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Yeah we like free poo poo, it's cool. But it's shady and petty of Marvel to count them as sold copies. And it's worth discussing because Marvel threw a shitfit because DC was moving so many books through subscription boxes and Marvel demanded those copies not count towards overall sales. And now they are not counted.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:08
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Onmi posted:Beyond it being an incredibly lovely business practice to essentially make the company look better than it is? a lot of the times they don't sell, they're just chaff. The other issue is that by overshipping books to prop up numbers, Marvel isn't letting the public decide which books it actually likes, which ones it doesn't, and what the fans want.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:09
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Diamond is complicit in this (which is also puzzling) but Marvel supplies Diamond with the "promotional" copies to send to shops. Again, it's all about maintaining a bullshit market share over DC. David Gabriel called the Rebirth returnability an unfair gimmick and a stunt. A stunt that lead to massive sales, much higher than Marvel's post SW relaunch. So in the last two years Marvel's main method of fighting off DC's advancing numbers is to cheat.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:14
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Endless Mike posted:How is it not letting people decide which books they actually like? Diamond may count overshipped books for their sales numbers, but I'm sure Marvel isn't dumb enough to think that if they ship 3000 free copies of a book that it means they're getting 3000 extra sales. Look I'm not gonna lie I just looked up some article from 2012 talking about the issue back then in an effort to sound smart.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:43
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Returnability is different from giving away copies though.
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Jun 9, 2017 17:26
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Do comics sold through Loot Crate still count as sold on the Diamond charts? Or did Marvel say that was cheating as well?
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Jun 9, 2017 17:40
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Tato posted:Do comics sold through Loot Crate still count as sold on the Diamond charts? Or did Marvel say that was cheating as well? I think Rhino just said they're no longer counted because of Marvel throwing a fit about how unfair it was.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:08
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Seems like it would be more fair, considering at the very least Loot Crate/subscribers paid money for those comics rather than them being sent to shops for free, even if they didn't deliberately choose that comic. At least a "sale" took place. Man, the comics industry is weird.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:28
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But didn't Marvel count those as well like when Loot Crate threw in an issue of Rocket Raccoon one month and the charts showed that book moving like 300k?
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Jun 9, 2017 23:06
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Onmi posted:I think Rhino just said they're no longer counted because of Marvel throwing a fit about how unfair it was. Correct. Batman #1 (Rebirth) was in some sub box and they distributed an unholy fuckload of copies and Marvel cried foul, that those copies were not actually sold.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:47
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I imagine the purpose of all of this is to support a stock price, because if it came out that Marvel was actually #2, that might ding Disney. It is not impossible they would lose more money having their shares drop three percent or whatever, than they would lose literally giving their comics away.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:35
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Nessus posted:I imagine the purpose of all of this is to support a stock price, because if it came out that Marvel was actually #2, that might ding Disney. It is not impossible they would lose more money having their shares drop three percent or whatever, than they would lose literally giving their comics away. I imagine it has more to do with ESPN's Disney order cost cutting and the resulting hemorrhaging of talent. Marvel knows what's coming if they miss a target so anything they can do to keep the House of Ideas afloat.
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Jun 10, 2017 12:47
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How many copies of the Mockingbird feminist cover did you lose?
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Jun 11, 2017 00:14
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sbaldrick posted:How many copies of the Mockingbird feminist cover did you lose? We were down to 3 copies of the book by then and two were pre-orders so uh, none.
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Jun 11, 2017 01:53
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Today a kid stole part of my lunch!
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Jun 16, 2017 05:45
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You can't say that without details
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Jun 16, 2017 05:45
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It's not that exciting, just the weirdest thing to happen in months. I take a lot of small snacks to work with me so I can nibble all day. I had a bag of frosted mini wheats with me today. I opened the bag, ate two of them and then sat them on the counter behind a pile of comics and went to help a customer. I came back and they were gone. I was puzzled, looked for them and didn't see them. I thought my coworker was loving with me and then I saw a kid (maybe 10 or so) walking behind his parents as they left, eating my goddamned mini wheats.
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Kid's got nary a gently caress to give. Stone cold.
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