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Lord Crapulus posted:Everything about that interview makes sense (and I'm sure that Honda is just loving all the slagging off they're getting), but this turn of phrase is really bothering me: "A year in Formula One is an eternity. Three years is a decade." Honda's indy effort (which is a different division mind you), has had engine problems, but they're still racking up wins with four different drivers across four different teams (Bourdais/Coyne, Hinch/Peterson, Sato/Andretti, Rahal/RLL). A friend figured that maybe Indy could have been the ultimate straw, or could have been a small factor in the end. Then again, Honda went to the Indy teams and said "Reliability or power, pick one" and everyone said power. Sort of paying off now.
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Honda's Indy engine problems are ultimately irrelevant (well besides disappointing Nando) since enough of them last to keep getting wins and lead Chevy in the manufacturer standings, even with Ganassi missing from your winners list so far. If the question had been "reliability or power but with F1 reliability" the answer would've been very different. Amazing to me how far McLaren has fallen, and short of those Mercedes pullout rumors coming through and McLaren being their works team again, I don't see how they become contenders again.
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1500quidporsche posted:2018 McLaren TAG Porsche WDC Fernando Alonso. My heart longs for this. I'd buy all available merchandise on day 1 
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Norns posted:In master stroke Zac Brown brings cosworth back to indy and f1. 1500quidporsche posted:2018 McLaren TAG Porsche WDC Fernando Alonso. 2018 Mclaren Porsche F1 WDC AND McLaren Cosworth Indy 500 winner Fernando Alonso
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1500quidporsche posted:I sincerely hope Comey walks in tomorrow, slaps a Betamax onto the table and then walks out. Every morning I wake up and open palm slap a Betamax into the slot. It's the Piss Tape and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside with the main character, Trump.
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1500quidporsche posted:I sincerely hope Comey walks in tomorrow, slaps a Betamax onto the table and then walks out. I would love for the senate investigative committee to walk in tomorrow, and there's just a movie projector and screen set up.
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Odd looking replica of the 312. The exhaust work looks terrible compared to the real thing. Not a fan.
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Wirth1000 posted:Odd looking replica of the 312. The exhaust work looks terrible compared to the real thing. Not a fan. Doesn't help that they went from a V12 to a V8, despite that V8 probably making more HP than that V12 did.
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Ew a mere 8 cylinders?
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Ew a mere 8 cylinders? Seriously, what is this? *googles poorest country in the world* The Democratic Republic of Congo???
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Wirth1000 posted:Seriously, what is this? *googles poorest country in the world* The Democratic Republic of Congo??? That's Dr. Congo to you, sir.
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Watching the IOM TT 3 riders have died already and not even half way through
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djssniper posted:Watching the IOM TT 3 riders have died already and not even half way through Real Racing.
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Bikers continue to prove they are insane and the IOM will always thrive on their sacrifice.
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If you havn't watched 'Closer to the Edge' you need to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihH5uDUaqRE&t=62s Mark Webber watching John McGuiness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJyWWy-cBE djssniper fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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gently caress yeah Mr Zak Brown. Enough is enough. Even I, who bask in the English tears and failure of their 'great' teams, am sick of seeing McLaren suck such rear end. Drop those fuckers. Nando will never drive for Ferrari or Mercedes, but he shouldn't need to.
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http://en.f1i.com/news/270174-jordan-mercedes-will-pull-plug-2018.html Ireland's famous oracle, the colorful Eddie Jordan, has delivered his latest prediction: Mercedes will quit F1 at the ed of the 2018 season! The former team owner and TV pundit actually enjoys a pretty good track record when it comes to forecasting F1's events. what the gently caress eddie? "I think they will go for the titles this and next year and then the board of directors in Stuttgart will decide to sell the team and stay only as an engine maker. "I would do the same," Jordan added. "Because Mercedes have won everything and can only get worse from now. So it's better to go back to their old core business in Formula 1, which is developing and delivering high tech engines." I dont think I put too much weight in this, but this is the final answer to the 'buy why why why does Ferrari automatically get more money than everyone else?'. Because they're not fair-weather fuckfaces and it hurts the sport when a brand gains a following and then in a clinical corporate decision they pull the programme. Nobody actually really understands how hard it is to stay in F1 for the long term except Ferrari, if what eddie says is true then both RBR and Merc are just flash-in-the-pan teams that have a run of success when they fluke the right chassis/engine combo but are not going concerns. A step away from BraunGP really and if you want to play that game he always wins with his perfect 1 from 1 record. Why does every driver dream of driving the red car at least once? Because Ferrari IS Formula One. Mercedes is many times bigger than Ferrari, makes multiple times it's revenue and employs tens of thousands more people, but Ferrari will never leave F1 because loving PASSION Tony Montana fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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So if Mclaren switch engine suppliers mid season (not happening) do they get to have their maximum number of engines used per season reset as its a different supplier!?
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haha those were Hondas, nah they dont count. that wouldnt be fair
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Tony Montana posted:
No wonder f1 is so poo poo.
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Actually, you'll find F1 to be Williams. A true bred racing team with a no non-sense attitude and the Adam Parr years never happened-but-we're-grateful-for-the-financial-upturn-and-the-Toyota-years-really-loving-sucked.
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Yep all those Williams engines won so many races. Perfect definition of what a garagista is. You bolt poo poo together built by other people. Also F1 is loving awesome this year, best year in a long, long time and part of why it's so awesome is when you watch pretty much any UK produced F1 media from the last 20 years the self-congratulatory poo poo seems so ridiculous now. All that needed to happen was lets stop using engines designed a million years ago - end of British F1 dominance.
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Tony Montana posted:
Really shows how far F1 has fallen.
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Tony Montana posted:Yep all those Williams engines won so many races. Perfect definition of what a garagista is. You bolt poo poo together built by other people. It's the best season in like five years at most.
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Privateer teams leave when they have to, manufacturer teams leave when they want to. Just because Ferrari hasn't done it yet doesn't mean they never will.
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Ferrari will never leave. It might not be a super season for you wicka, but I can assure you I'm more invested in this one that any I can remember in recent history. Ferrari fans are sorta loyal like that, because our team is loyal to us and won't leave
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2012 was literally better than this season in every imaginable way, sorry.
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Lord Crapulus posted:Privateer teams leave when they have to, manufacturer teams leave when they want to. Just because Ferrari hasn't done it yet doesn't mean they never will. I don't want to live in a world without Ferrari in F1.
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wicka posted:2012 was literally better than this season in every imaginable way, sorry. youre probably right, but mine isn't an objective measurement or anything. It's because Ferrari is my team and they'll never abandon me and they'll never turn to complete poo poo because they come from a place where they have the technical ability to build entire cars
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Tony Montana posted:youre probably right, but mine isn't an objective measurement or anything. It's because Ferrari is my team and they'll never abandon me and they'll never turn to complete poo poo because they come from a place where they have the technical ability to build entire cars On the other hand, their biggest weakness is organizational incompetence.
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No, I disagree. It's not incompetence so much as culture. That's another part of it, they do it their way which is often nothing like the way a UK or US team and they still get results. Part of it is a lot of what I've said here, there is so much passion and emotion and history in Ferrari there can be a problem with groupthink and sticking your neck out. Also personal culture, Italians talk to each other differently to English speakers and that would translate into how they make decisions on a raceday and sure, sometimes you see them do something that makes you scratch your head. No team that has been here for that long with that much success is incompetent. That culture is also their greatest asset. Its a double-edged sword.
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Tony Montana posted:No, I disagree. It's not incompetence so much as culture. That's another part of it, they do it their way which is often nothing like the way a UK or US team and they still get results. Part of it is a lot of what I've said here, there is so much passion and emotion and history in Ferrari there can be a problem with groupthink and sticking your neck out. Also personal culture, Italians talk to each other differently to English speakers and that would translate into how they make decisions on a raceday and sure, sometimes you see them do something that makes you scratch your head. Put a dollar in the jar.
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Tony Montana posted:No, I disagree. It's not incompetence so much as culture. That's another part of it, they do it their way which is often nothing like the way a UK or US team and they still get results. Part of it is a lot of what I've said here, there is so much passion and emotion and history in Ferrari there can be a problem with groupthink and sticking your neck out. Also personal culture, Italians talk to each other differently to English speakers and that would translate into how they make decisions on a raceday and sure, sometimes you see them do something that makes you scratch your head. Yeah but they were only good when they were run by an Englishman and a German driver.
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Go back. Ferrari won plenty more than the Schumy years. Anyways, all this leads me to one of my totally favorite scenes in Rush, because even as a Ferrari fan I have to laugh how loving pompous they can be about the 'holy brand' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVlyGejQSi0
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