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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmsBk70RrbE This is all pretty interesting but oddly, the part I'm more curious about is the mass decline of pets in Japan. Whatcha got against dogs? Or is it just a sign of the economic problems?
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Is the problem of Karoshi generally silenced by the government and by corporations? Or do the bosses of karoshi victims actually give a poo poo?
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmsBk70RrbE 1) Many houses and apartments still have at least one room with tatami flooring. Pets tend to gently caress that poo poo up fierce. And in really crowded areas, there's no practical way to let the pets run free. 2) Apartments don't really have insulated walls and so pet noises can carry, and dogs are the most annoying. (I have two stupidly cute cats in my apartment that is normally no-dogs-or-cats and that's because I "negotiated" by sending a message to my landlady via my broker that either she let us have cats or we would move immediately, and my apartment is a remodel with all hardwood floors and no tatami mats.) 3) Japan is cat country. Cats abound in traditional iconography, and the term 負け犬 (lit. "defeat dog") means "loser". Also the term 野犬 specifically exists to refer to wild dogs while all others are simply 野生.
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Grouchio posted:Is the problem of Karoshi generally silenced by the government and by corporations? Or do the bosses of karoshi victims actually give a poo poo? Seems like the opposite if anything, it's one of the top 5 or so things on the list of stuff that's been constantly sensationalized and obsessed over by media in both Japan and the West for the last like 30 years, and considering that Japan's suicide rate is not actually higher than most Euro countries except for old people who skew it higher, ...
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icantfindaname posted:Seems like the opposite if anything, it's one of the top 5 or so things on the list of stuff that's been constantly sensationalized and obsessed over by media in both Japan and the West for the last like 30 years, and considering that Japan's suicide rate is not actually higher than most Euro countries except for old people who skew it higher, ...
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icantfindaname posted:Seems like the opposite if anything, it's one of the top 5 or so things on the list of stuff that's been constantly sensationalized and obsessed over by media in both Japan and the West for the last like 30 years, and considering that Japan's suicide rate is not actually higher than most Euro countries except for old people who skew it higher, ... I get that hating on old people is the J-Goon hivemind consensus and all, but why would you exclude them from the suicide rate when comparing between countries? Isn't the elevated rate of suicide amongst the elderly remarkable on its own as well?
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Not half as unremarkable as it should be, imo.
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Mr. Fix It posted:I get that hating on old people is the J-Goon hivemind consensus and all, but why would you exclude them from the suicide rate when comparing between countries? Isn't the elevated rate of suicide amongst the elderly remarkable on its own as well? It is, but the way karoshi is usually framed (THE JAPANESE HAVE A SPECIFIC WORD FOR WORKING TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) is about people who are implicitly young working adults/maybe later middle aged, not retired olds. Vice journalists don't care about the plight of poor/homeless old people in Japan, which is where the exceptionally high suicide rate is icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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icantfindaname posted:It is, but the way karoshi is usually framed (THE JAPANESE HAVE A SPECIFIC WORD FOR WORKING TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) is about people who are implicitly young working adults/maybe later middle aged, not retired olds. Vice journalists don't care about the plight of poor/homeless old people in Japan, which is where the exceptionally high suicide rate is Karoshi isn't suicide, though?
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Mr. Fix It posted:Karoshi isn't suicide, though? I thought it was mostly a euphemism for suicides ruled as being caused by workplace conditions? The case from a few weeks/months ago was a woman working for Dentsu who committed suicide
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icantfindaname posted:I thought it was mostly a euphemism for suicides ruled as being caused by workplace conditions? The case from a few weeks/months ago was a woman working for Dentsu who committed suicide I'm not sure what the breakdown is, but karoshi includes folks just dropping dead from stroke or heart attacks while working. Acknowledging that suicides can be caused by overwork let alone calling them karoshi is a pretty recent thing I believe.
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Karoshi isn't suicide it's manslaughter.
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http://www.nippon.com/en/behind/l10325/ Looking forward to the law that allows women to be Empresses of Japan in 70 years from now.
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All my Heisei 31 calendars are officially WORTHLESS. THANKS ABE
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I Love Annie May posted:http://www.nippon.com/en/behind/l10325/ I've heard several people express the opinion that it might have happened if Masako had been more active. But since people think her daughter is a weird recluse like her, they aren't particularly supportive of the daughter becoming empress.
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That's interesting. Most people I've spoken to over the years have been really sympathetic with Masako and her health problems. Her situation is generally the only time I've heard grumbling about the royal family, in the sense that Masako, a brilliant and high-achieving woman, has obviously suffered living under the very restrictive royal lifestyle.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Are the Yakuza as powerful in Japan as popular media makes them out to be? Someone else can probably offer more expertise than I can but I was interested in this too so I headed to Google a few months ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3irphz/why_has_the_japanese_government_tolerated_the/ Specifically, it was the whole idea that Japanese people accepts the Yakuza that interested me and I wondered if it was true. (so many myths and racist BS about Japan online) My few minutes on Google makes it seem like it's just more of a disconnect between Japanese citizens and the government. Average Japanese people think of them as horrible criminal scum but they've been so involved in government over the decades that over here we get the idea that they are somehow tolerated or even beloved.
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I've been going back and reading essays and books written about Japan during the bubble period, and this article circa 1981 is pretty amazing and cathartic. I've always been a little surprised at how unwilling mainstream discourse seems to be to directly challenge or call out orientalist/nihonjinron stuff, so I guess this is the best you will get of that http://apjjf.org/-C.-Douglas-Lummis/2474/article.html icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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NikkolasKing posted:Someone else can probably offer more expertise than I can but I was interested in this too so I headed to Google a few months ago. There is the Anti-Social Forces Law as well that went into effect within the last several years, which I've heard does about as much harm as good because part of it is that the police will not help you out if you're paying protection money to the fuckers. Well those are my Yakuza anecdotes fellow goons. Seems like they're still kind of a problem. So long.
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Kilroy posted:A few years back my mother-in-law got in a car accident at a traffic light when a Yakuza driver rear-ended a vehicle hard enough that the three cars in front all ended up colliding with each other. The police showed up and the Yakuza gave them fake names and addresses. Of course the police knew who they were, but in the end the cops told the other people involved in the accident that they were better off not pressing the issue since the party at fault were Yakuza. Insurance wouldn't go near it either (I guess they don't have uninsured Yakuza-motorist insurance in Japan) and as far as I know everyone involved ended up paying for their damages out of pocket. This sounds extremely naive of me, but would that play out the same way with the mafia and America?
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How hosed up is the Japanese criminal justice system? Is it true that they have a 99% prosecution rate? How do people stand by this?
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punk rebel ecks posted:How hosed up is the Japanese criminal justice system? Is it true that they have a 99% prosecution rate? How do people stand by this? "Only guilty people get arrested and charged." It's self-fulfilling and self-sustaining really.
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punk rebel ecks posted:How hosed up is the Japanese criminal justice system? Is it true that they have a 99% prosecution rate? How do people stand by this? (Of course, they'll try to make it a slam dunk by extorting a confession.)
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punk rebel ecks posted:This sounds extremely naive of me, but would that play out the same way with the mafia and America? The mafia has very small presence and generally takes a lot of effort to stay below the radar to the point where if someone tried to say they were in the mafia to threaten someone, they probably wouldn't believe them. If they tried to do it to a cop, the cop would probably laugh at their funny joke.
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punk rebel ecks posted:This sounds extremely naive of me, but would that play out the same way with the mafia and America?
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I mean on the flip side if you're in an accident in America and happen to be black you'd better flee the scene because the cops are going to assume you're at fault and at least place you under arrest if they don't shoot you dead first. Not a lot of that in Japan. You take the good with the bad.
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punk rebel ecks posted:How hosed up is the Japanese criminal justice system? Is it true that they have a 99% prosecution rate? How do people stand by this? Looking at google and wiki the US federal courts have a 90%+ conviction rate, up to very high 90s depending on the year and source reporting, though state courts are less. The UK courts are ~80% which is unified and so probably a good value for "normal". This document seems to indicate it's about that for Germany too https://www.bundesjustizamt.de/DE/SharedDocs/Publikationen/Justizstatistik/Criminal_Justice_Germany_en.pdf As for Japan, this paper suggests that the Japanese court system is hugely underfunded and understaffed and Japan has a fraction of the lawyers and judicial personnel of comparably large and wealthy countries. It also says Japan doesn't have plea bargains (which aren't counted in the number of other countries conviction rate) so a lot of that 99% is de facto plea bargains http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/468111 quote:On the other hand, this punishment generally occurs only in highly unusual cases—those involving politically sensitive crimes, for example, or where the acquittal results from statutory interpretation such as the definition of mental capacity or the timing of the statute of limitations. Almost never does a judge find himself punished for deciding that prosecutors nailed the wrong man. For acquitting defendants in run-of-the-mill crimes, judges seem not to suffer a career hit. Accordingly, the high conviction rates in routine cases result more plausibly from budget constraints than from skewed judicial incentives. That's true of a lot of aspects of the Japanese government, like for example Japan's welfare state is pretty bare-bones. Tax revenue by the JPN government as percent GDP is among the lowest among first world nations, slightly above the USA. I think it's largely a result of these institutions being built out in the 1960s before Japan caught up economically with Western Europe (in 1960 Japan was as rich in GDP/head as contemporary Mexico). The Japanese public has been ferociously opposed to tax increases, it's what killed the DPJ government There's definitely an authoritarian quality to a lot of the Japanese state, like for example you can be held in jail without charge for like 3 weeks, but the conviction rate seems to be largely a dumb meme
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I see thanks. I always thought Japan had a sonewhat reasonably sized welfare state? How is there poverty rate similar to the US then?
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The Japanese welfare system is the same as the American one. Lifetime corporate employment. The biggest difference has just been the percentage of people allowed to participate is much higher in Japan than the US. That's starting to break down now though, and there's no system backing it up so it's anyone's guess how that's going to shake out.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I see thanks. It''s pretty small compared to those of Euro countries. It's more comparable to that of the USA, also in the sense I think a lot of it is done at the municipal level, where socialist parties were successful electorally in the 1970s A lot of Japan's political economy is weirdly more similar to that of the USA than Europe like you would expect given the legal and constitutional history. I think part of it is the relatively late development of a national as opposed to regional political identities, with Japanese politics being heavily based around local patronage politics until the 1990s, like the USA was to a large extent until the 1970s I just read a pretty interesting book that says another part of it is how the state dealt with skilled labor as an interest group in the early history of the modern economies. In Germany (and Scandanavia, I'm not entirely up on Swedish economic history but my impression is it tracks the German model) the state sided with skilled labor and traditional craft guilds in opposition to unskilled, socialist labor movements, and the former groups then formed the core of social democratic parties in those countries. In Japan the Meiji state actively broke up traditional craft guilds and basically made an agreement directly with unskilled labor movements to provide seniority pay and wage increases linked to GDP growth, which they could do in a heavily dirigiste, state-driven economy. In the USA of course traditional guild institutions didn't exist at all, and so something similar happened in the New Deal where the government forced large conglomerate businesses to offer that deal to unionized labor http://www.cambridge.org/us/academi...tates-and-japan Also schools in Japan are comprehensive/don't have tracking, like USA and unlike Germany icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Interesting. I find it amusing that Japan has a poverty rate similar (higher?) to the United States despite how bootstrap focused people on the right hype up the country.
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LyonsLions posted:I've heard several people express the opinion that it might have happened if Masako had been more active. But since people think her daughter is a weird recluse like her, they aren't particularly supportive of the daughter becoming empress. According to my coworkers, Masako never wanted to be part of the imperial household. She was on her way to becoming an international diplomat, and Naruhito basically begged her to marry him countless times until she finally broke down and accepted it. She's also battled depression and other mental illnesses in her life, and that's contributed to her being scarce. Also, if I remember correctly, the Imperial household wouldn't even let her go see her mom when she was dying, which also contributed to her being a "recluse"
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Honestly, if the Imperial Household Agency was abolished the Imperial family would probably be a lot better off and happier but they'll never be abolished because they're too powerful
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Cross-postin'I would blow Dane Cook posted:Japanese cartoonist Masaaki Sato has May warning Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe, not to delay an election too long. I would watch this show.
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Ron Darling posted:Honestly, if the Imperial Household Agency was abolished the Imperial family would probably be a lot better off and happier but they'll never be abolished because they're too powerful Everything I've read about the imperial household agency makes it sound like the imperial family are basically slaves. How did this system evolve?
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Ron Darling posted:According to my coworkers, Masako never wanted to be part of the imperial household. She was on her way to becoming an international diplomat, and Naruhito basically begged her to marry him countless times until she finally broke down and accepted it. She's also battled depression and other mental illnesses in her life, and that's contributed to her being scarce. Also, if I remember correctly, the Imperial household wouldn't even let her go see her mom when she was dying, which also contributed to her being a "recluse" Oh sure, I'm not saying people don't understand her situation, well certainly some don't, but there are those who say that in order for the public to get behind changing the succession laws, they needed an example of a strong female royal a la Princess Diana. Whereas the news that gets out about the daughter is about how she isn't going to school because the boys were too rough or whatever. They certainly spin it to make her sound as weak as possible and I'm sure that's entirely intentional, but of course that does reflect on how the public see her as a potential empress. Also the society in general doesn't have a lot of sympathy for mental illness and emotional problems in general so that doesn't help. I guess my only point is that it isn't 100% sexism, there are plenty of people who are fine with women in positions of power such as Yuriko Koike, but aren't really behind an empress because of who that empress would be, and how she and her mother have been portrayed in the media.
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cis autodrag posted:Everything I've read about the imperial household agency makes it sound like the imperial family are basically slaves. How did this system evolve? I'm guessing it's largely unchanged since the 1930s, and nobody's bothered to change it because they don't care about the plight of Hirohito's kids and the Japanese monarchy doesn't have a super big public profile to begin with icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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