Auspol June: It's Time for Sodomy

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Mr Chips: Jun 27, 2007; Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

Tokamak posted:

Yes, lets arm the riot squad with full automatic capable assault rifles with a range of 300 metres. This is a thing we need to counteract terrorism performed by a single or few individuals, in pedestrian heavy, confined spaces. What are they expecting, an armed insurrection?

There are specialised close-quarters rounds available that don't carry as far, fragment less terribly on impact/riccochet, and have some sort of forensic unqiue ID in the fragments. Don't know if anyone's using them in Australia.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 04:25

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Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Paingod556 posted:

Wasn't one of the fatalities from the Lindt siege caused by fragments from 5.56mm FMJ rounds that shattered on hitting the walls?

Hence my sarcastic "I mean you just don't get quality unintended bystander kill shots with low powered weapons and we really don't want innocent members of the public to suffer."

# ? Jun 8, 2017 04:38

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

Those rounds weren't an option in my Counter-Strike 1.4 training.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 04:40

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I thought most police use hollow points for pretty much that exact reason, less penetration.

I guess the counter-terrorism guys have to prepare for body armour?

# ? Jun 8, 2017 05:46

Bogan King: Jan 21, 2013; I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

Law enforcement always use armour piercing rounds these days. Ever since they had their poo poo handed to them by the infamous terrorist Ned Kelly and his band of jihadis they've sworn never again.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 06:07

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I thought most police use hollow points for pretty much that exact reason, less penetration.

I guess the counter-terrorism guys have to prepare for body armour?

The real reason they use hollow points is the do maximum damage and increase stopping power, innocent bystanders is justification to tear up people's guts.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 06:22

Paingod556: Nov 8, 2011; Not a problem, sir

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I thought most police use hollow points for pretty much that exact reason, less penetration.

I guess the counter-terrorism guys have to prepare for body armour?

But why? Body armour is on the prohibited weapon list, so how could anyone get a hold on a set?

# ? Jun 8, 2017 06:37

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

If they can get illegal guns I'm sure they can get illegal body armour, but even if they couldn't you can make your own.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 06:44

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

# ? Jun 8, 2017 06:47

Mr Chips: Jun 27, 2007; Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

open24hours posted:

I'm sure they can get illegal body armour, but even if they couldn't you can make your own.

That's a fine Australian tradition.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:05

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

open24hours posted:

If they can get illegal guns I'm sure they can get illegal body armour, but even if they couldn't you can make your own.

It is I, the impenetrable phone book man!

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:17

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Endman posted:

It is I, the impenetrable phone book man!

*firehose*

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:23

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

You're gonna need AP rounds when the property market crashes and you're suddenly confronted by a battalion of classic Australian muscle cars while trying to loot JB.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:25

Ora Tzo: Feb 26, 2016; HEEEERES TONYYYY

Hopefully you all got good SPECIAL stats.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:28

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

As a millennial I would prefer a post-apocalyptic hellscape if it means property prices are lower.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:29

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Isn't desertification bad for avos though?

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:30

Bogan King: Jan 21, 2013; I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Isn't desertification bad for avos though?

Way to ruin my lust for a nuclear fallout hellscape.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:34

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Bogan King posted:

Way to ruin my lust for a nuclear fallout hellscape.

Maybe smashed prickly pear on damper will take off?

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:36

do it on my face: Feb 6, 2005; °

When the oceans dry up we won't need to turn any boats back. Checkmate, terrorists.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:52

Bogan King: Jan 21, 2013; I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Maybe smashed prickly pear on damper will take off?

I love me some prickly pear so hopefully it doesn't and it is all mine.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:54

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

As a millennial I would prefer a post-apocalyptic hellscape if it means property prices are lower.

But no avocado toast???

# ? Jun 8, 2017 08:00

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Endman posted:

But no avocado toast???

Breast milk lattes!

# ? Jun 8, 2017 08:19

CATTASTIC: Mar 31, 2010; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

do it on my face posted:

When the oceans dry up we won't need to turn any boats back. Checkmate, terrorists.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 08:48

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Nelson told Guardian Australia he had 4,000 secret recordings and would continue to speak out against One Nation and its “secrecy”.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 08:49

Bogan King: Jan 21, 2013; I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 09:18

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

https://twitter.com/NearyTy_9/status/872360086508896256

# ? Jun 8, 2017 10:22

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Lid posted:

https://twitter.com/NearyTy_9/status/872360086508896256

Can we send him back to what I think must have been a British slum?

# ? Jun 8, 2017 10:35

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

DancingShade posted:

Can we send him back to what I think must have been a British slum?

He's already in it

# ? Jun 8, 2017 11:09

Futuresight: Oct 11, 2012; IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!

If I knew Kazakhstan officials would be listening and take me seriously I wouldn't have referred to New Zealand as the 7th state so many times. Sorry guys.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 11:17

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

DancingShade posted:

Can we send him back to what I think must have been a British slum?

Drive him into the sea.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 13:12

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/newscomauHQ/status/872630690243895296

But, but, her family came out with a list of all the people to whom she wasn't a hateful bigot!

# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:07

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

The Saudi Arabian football team were booed by Australian supporters after they failed to properly line up for a minute's silence in honour of the victims of the London Bridge terror attacks.

Saudi Arabia were preparing to play Australia in a World Cup qualifier at the Adelaide Oval when the stadium announcer called for a minute's silence to begin.

The Australia team linked arms in a line on the centre circle while the Saudi Arabia team stood in random formation as the silence began.

According to Adam Peacock, who works as a presenter for Fox Sports in Australia, the Asian Football Confederation approved the minute�s silence against the wishes of Saudi Arabia.

The Football Federation of Australia were then unable to persuade Saudi Arabian officials to agree to participate in the tribute.

A number of Saudi Arabian players stood still with their arms behind their back while others appeared to continue their warm up.

Reports suggest that the visitors' substitutes bench also failed to stand to observe the tribute.

The incident sparked outrage on social media with one user tweeting: "I hope Fifa call out Saudi Arabia on the clear lack of respect shown prior to kick-off. Not participating in the minute's silence is disgusting."

# ? Jun 8, 2017 20:04

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

Never forget Saudi Arabia is a lovely place jam packed full of lovely people, and the root cause of most of the worst poo poo happening in the middle east

# ? Jun 8, 2017 20:07

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

better sell them more guns I guess

# ? Jun 8, 2017 20:47

Bogan King: Jan 21, 2013; I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

# ? Jun 8, 2017 23:18

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

NTRabbit posted:

Never forget Saudi Arabia is a lovely place jam packed full of lovely people, and the root cause of most of the worst poo poo happening in the middle east

And the worst thing is they have the USA's stamp of approval to go and do whatever the Saudis want to do in the Middle East. Just when you thought it was chaotic enough

# ? Jun 8, 2017 23:24

Bogan King: Jan 21, 2013; I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

You Am I posted:

And the worst thing is they have the USA's stamp of approval to go and do whatever the Saudis want to do in the Middle East. Just when you thought it was chaotic enough

That is mostly because of stuff like this though

https://twitter.com/SimonMarksFSN/status/872858486895513600

# ? Jun 8, 2017 23:35

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/dannolan/status/872935480286822400

# ? Jun 9, 2017 00:04

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Laura Tingle fires up in the AFR:

AFR paywalled posted:

The NSW Labor Party doesn't have much to laugh about these days. Last week, former state minister Ian Macdonald was jailed for 10 years for misconduct in public office, joining his former ally and powerbroker Eddie Obeid in the slammer.

But black humour is sometimes the best antidote and it was on display at a tribute dinner in Sydney last Friday night for Labor's legendary speechwriter Graham Freudenberg � who has written galvanising words for Labor leaders since the powerful ones that set out the ALP's opposition to sending Australian troops to Vietnam for Arthur Calwell, and outlined Gough Whitlam's 1972 campaign platform.

Little Patti sang an updated version of It's Time, which reflected in part how Freudenberg had sought pre-selection for the NSW Upper House but had been "rolled" by another powerbroker, Graham Richardson, in order to deliver an upper house seat � and immense and destructive influence � to his mate Eddie Obeid.

Just think how different things could have been if Richo hadn't intervened. "Freudy" would have been able to make a positive contribution and have one of the jobs historically handed out as a form of super to loyal party troopers on both sides of politics.

The gig would have fallen on the largesse side of the ledger, not the side of corruption.

Sadly, "jobs for the boys" now seems like a rather quaint reflection of a much, much more innocent world.

We have faced a rapid descent through corruption for personal gain to a truly alarming world where, according to some fine reporting this week by my colleagues at Fairfax and the ABC, we are seeing how vulnerable our state and federal political systems are to foreign influence, in this case by an aggressive Chinese state machine.

Our intelligence agencies are alarmed. And of course what is happening here only seems like part of an end-of-days attack on government institutions and processes around the globe, from inside and outside; from Russian interference in European elections, to planting fake news to disrupt the delicate power balance in the gulf states, from Donald Trump trying to get the FBI director to drop an investigation into members of his administration.

No less than the former US Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in Canberra this week that things at home were not only worse than Watergate, but that his country was under "assault" from its own president and Russia.

Keeping it secret from Trump

Clapper told the National Press Club he would understand if Australia's spy agencies withheld intelligence from American counterparts because Trump could not be trusted to keep it secret.

Both Trump and the Russians seem to be involved in the extraordinary rift in the gulf. Whoever is behind the split between Qatar and six of its neighbours, the combination of this with the assault on the Iranian Parliament has spread the instability in the Middle East that much further.

Yet much of this has just involved "information chaos". What happens if the sorts of digital disruptions and hacking that have been involved in so many assaults on governance this year turn into "system chaos" that affects transport and power systems?

Yet we are more transfixed by the human horror of another form of assault on our social fabric, from the actions of terrorists who increasingly act on their own in committing violent carnage against individuals.

Both sides of politics have a really serious interest in doing more than just working out how vulnerable they are to scandal on political donations, lucrative consultancies and the exercise of soft power, and grasping just what an existential threat they face from outsiders, and deciding to act together to do something about it.

The dark influence

For all the people who have complained for years about the dark influence of stakeholders, it is completely Mickey Mouse compared to what we have seen this week, only matched by the extraordinary stupidity of politicians caught out actually publicly intervening in issues directly after money has changed hands.

And it may just be that stakeholders � including business, industry, and energy groups � may prove to be an ultimate force for good in seeing an end to a domestic political war that has also destroyed plenty in politics.

Ahead of the release of the Finkel report on Friday, we have seen a parade of business leaders calling for some policy certainty out this week. Enough is enough, to quote a phrase in much circulation in other contexts.

This has provided a base from which Labor has put out a hand of bipartisanship. "The most effective policy for investment certainty in the energy sector is bipartisanship", Opposition Leader Bill Shorten wrote to the Prime Minister on Wednesday.

Of course, this is not entirely without its political calculations. Labor's position puts the pressure on Malcolm Turnbull to stare down the conservatives in his party who cling to the belief that it is government policy alone that is responsible for the decline in the relative competitiveness of coal.

Yet in combination with all these other interests, it also has the effect of marginalising those who, in a supposedly pro-business party seek to rage against the consensus and the reality of an investment strike.

The risks in energy and climate change policy now, it seems, come from lone wolf operators like Tony Abbott rather than the powerful institutions of our economy.

Fuelling Finkel

As this column revealed last week, Finkel is expected to favour a technology-neutral low emissions target. But this will neither be the end of the emissions issue, nor is it necessarily the most crucial issue that will flow from Finkel.

Remember what Chief Scientist Alan Finkel was asked to do by the Prime Minister. Turnbull wanted to know how to ensure the stability of the energy system at a time of increasing intermittent renewable inputs; on affordability; and finally on emissions reduction.

Reports already released have pointed to the significant cost of measures like add-on battery power to new renewable projects that would go to the issue of system stability.

Finkel will be the beginning of a renewed discussion about emissions reduction, which will move from mechanism to targets. It is a battle that will last at least until the government's own review of Paris targets reports later in the year.

In the meantime, the dangerous political issue will be affordability. Almost on cue, a series of big east coast energy price hikes from July 1 started to be rolled out on Thursday.

A big part of the problem remains a shortage of gas. In a world where everything and everyone is connected, that makes what happens in Qatar just another nightmare, another source of disruption.

TL;DR poo poo's hosed up

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