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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Amazon change is cool. But if you are on EBT, then is $4 a month really going to change your shopping habits? It's more what people have in their pockets at the moment. They would rather do a monthly than a yearly. My employees have borrowed $20 from each other so they could eat until payday. These are grown ups. America is bad and gross.
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Good on Amazon, but it also makes business sense because it's a great way to gently caress over Walmart and steal their customer base at the moment when Walmart is exploring doing on-demand delivery.
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Mozi posted:You might be able to do Prime Pantry. But certainly for things like paper towels the prices combined with free shipping would be attractive. Plus you get watch a movie on Prime instead of renting you've saved the 4 bucks right there. I'm not sure why you're assuming they were renting videos still in the first place.
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fishmech posted:I'm not sure why you're assuming they were renting videos still in the first place. Or assuming that they have a high-speed internet connection that will allow them to play the videos. More poor households are switching over to smartphones only and don't have any broadband. So they will have data caps that will make it harder to take advantage of Prime video.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:30
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I was just trying to think of an example. Maybe they listen to music.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:My employees have borrowed $20 from each other so they could eat until payday. These are grown ups. America is bad and gross. If you are their employer aren't you kind of complicit in that?
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NihilismNow posted:If you are their employer aren't you kind of complicit in that? Sorry if that was unclear, I am just a step up the chain manager. What is the preferred term for employees you manage but don't actually pay?
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Sorry if that was unclear, I am just a step up the chain manager. What is the preferred term for employees you manage but don't actually pay? Generally, it's subordinates, vassals, or henchs.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:09
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Excuse me the term is 'resource'
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Excuse me the term is 'resource' The thing I hear lately is "headcount" as a singular noun, as in we need to add a headcount, we got approval for a new headcount, etc etc. Resource is a little more demeaning still though, given the other at least implies that you have a head. VVV Yes, that is correct. But that's not how people are using it. VVV Sundae fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 20:29
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Headcount is the sum of all employees. A singular head would be the correct term.
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I'd say FTE but they are probably not fulltime.
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Headcount is the sum of all employees. A singular head would be the correct term. "So, how many head of resources does your company employ?"
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Heads. You'd say heads in that instance.
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Jun 7, 2017 21:53
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Generally, it's subordinates, vassals, or henchs. I've been saying reports, I think I'll switch to henchs now.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:04
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Guysz. I got guysz. I need to hire more guysz.
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Jun 7, 2017 23:26
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Underlings.
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I believe the correct answer is "goons".
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BlueBlazer posted:Guysz. I got guysz. I need to hire more guysz. according to this anti-union powerpoint at work it's "bodies"  pictured: my internal post-68 french academic reacting to his discourse making its way into hospitality management 
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Willie Tomg posted:according to this anti-union powerpoint at work it's "bodies" Gross. Which company, Walmart?
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It's a kitchen in a big hotel in texas.
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Willie Tomg posted:according to this anti-union powerpoint at work it's "bodies" I hope the person who wrote that gets beaten with a fuckin brick
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Peachfart posted:Gross. Which company, Walmart? Eh. Anti-union policies are pretty much everywhere, some companies are just more blatant than others. I caught a glimpse of my store's emergency guide ( for the managers ), and 'union activity' is listed along with tornadoes, civil unrest, and active shooters. It is fun how they ( stores in general ) post propaganda posters about how they support you, and they're against unions interfering with your 'right to work'. Whenever I see one of those things, I always want to tack 'to death' on the end. Everyone I know is either in debt, living at home, or working two jobs. The only people getting by are the ones that had their full-time positions grandfathered in before the status quo. It's a wonderful feeling when you see the store's profit sheets and know for a fact that your department and your labor nets an order of magnitude more than you cost the store, and you could be paid a living wage with plenty of meat left on the bone- but that ain't happening.
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I can't link it because I'm at work, but there was a mandatory corporate training video from either Best Buy, Wal-Mart, or Target in the early 2000's that had a 20-minute section (out of an hour total) on unions. It included such hilarious/terrible things as: - All union organizers being disgruntled employees who try to sneak into the store to organize. Report them to management immediately. - Any current employee that wants to unionize is trying to trick you into losing your job so they can take your hours. They do not have your best interest at heart. Report them to management immediately. - This is Debbie, she is lazy and causes more work for everyone. If we unionize, then we would have to pay union dues OUT OF YOUR PAYCHECK to protect her. - Union dues for some union members in the United States are as high as $830. These come out of your monthly paycheck and your managers CANNOT protect you from them. - Anyone trying to unionize does not have your interests at heart. But sometimes, good people get tricked by positive-sounding promises. If a friend or coworker you care about attempts to convince you to organize, then tell your branch manager and have them schedule a sit-down to explain the details and true costs. They can make up their mind after having all the facts. It's online somewhere.
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Pretty sure that was Target, but it could be just about any chain.
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My sister in law was fired from a nursing home job because as the working conditions got worse, she went around to the other employees and started gathering a collective list of complaints and grievances to submit to the higher ups. Nothing happened at first but about a week or two later she had mentioned the *possibility* of starting to job search in earshot of one of the managers and they fired her on the spot for insufficient loyalty to the company. When she told me about all that, I had to explain to her that all the underlings collecting complaints is like step 1 or 2 of a what managers are trained to look for when a labor union is forming and once the higher ups were on to her they were going to find literally any reason to fire her. She still doesn't believe her firing was a pre-emptive unionbusting tactic, strangely enough, nor does she believe what she did could of ever amounted to the employees getting together and demanding collective bargaining.
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I worked at one of the top ten Wal-Marts in the USA, in the south, before and during the recession, and goddamn nobody wanted unions. It must be a cultural thing because if an interest in history hadn't shown me the undeniable necessity of unions I sure as poo poo wouldn't have learned it from any of my blue collar co-workers or our bosses. Saw the same thing at a factory. Among my mostly college educated white collar friends with a mix of public and private jobs, the one hard left liberal wants unions, Every one else hates them, and I ,as the reasonable moderate lol, am getting woke to the historical argument for them.
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Thats why repubs defund schools, they dont want people to learn why unions formed.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I worked at one of the top ten Wal-Marts in the USA, in the south, before and during the recession, and goddamn nobody wanted unions. It must be a cultural thing because if an interest in history hadn't shown me the undeniable necessity of unions I sure as poo poo wouldn't have learned it from any of my blue collar co-workers or our bosses. Saw the same thing at a factory. To be fair, unions ain't what they used to be. They've been somewhat defanged, and some of them just aren't that great. If you've spent some time ( and money ) supporting a union that seems like it never does anything for you, you'll probably end up with a somewhat negative view of them. If my last union tried to get into the store I'm at now, I'm not sure I'd support them because they were kind of terrible. 
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Unless you're a longshoreman or some edge case like that, unions never seem that great until you lose them or take a nonunion job. Even a crappy union offers some protection for management bullshit.
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Management hating unions is fairly understandable, but the brainwashing of the American working class to hate unions has been quite the (awful) achievement. Pretty much anyone, in almost any job, would objectively be better off in a unionized workplace up until they hit mid/upper management level. I've worked in tech in Europe for American multinationals and its always hilarious seeing American HR departments trying to get their head around having to respect employee rights in their EMEA offices. A minimum number of hours between shifts? Having to pay overtime? Maternity/paternity leave? Having to actually have a legally justifiable reason for firing an employee? 6 weeks a year of paid leave?! etc The even funnier part is when the US employees begin to hear about the rights their European co-workers get, and begin to question why they don't get them. Thats what demonizing unions and socialism gets you guys - the right-to-work.
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FilthyImp posted:Pretty sure that was Target, but it could be just about any chain. Yeah, and what was funny about the Target video was every actor in it was a union member.
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It's interesting because it turns out to be counterproductive. American employees in a lot of industries are miserable and not as productive as they could be. Burnout and a lack of motivation are real problems. Unhappy people just plain don't work as hard. Not enough rest does awful things to people and the stress of making less than a living wage wrecks people. Unhealthy employees who can't see a doctor also don't exactly produce good work.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's interesting because it turns out to be counterproductive. American employees in a lot of industries are miserable and not as productive as they could be. Burnout and a lack of motivation are real problems. Unhappy people just plain don't work as hard. Not enough rest does awful things to people and the stress of making less than a living wage wrecks people. Unhealthy employees who can't see a doctor also don't exactly produce good work. Churn and Burn. As long as there is a fresh crop of HS grads to throw into the grinder it doesn't matter.
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Blut posted:Management hating unions is fairly understandable, but the brainwashing of the American working class to hate unions has been quite the (awful) achievement. Pretty much anyone, in almost any job, would objectively be better off in a unionized workplace up until they hit mid/upper management level. Reading the tale of Walmart failing in Germany is always enjoyable, from german customers being creeped out by policy of smiling at customers to the workers not having any of the morning pep-rally bullshit to the management being shocked that they couldn't undercut the prices of the competition. The_Franz fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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The_Franz posted:Reading the tale of Walmart failing in Germany is always enjoyable, from german customers being creeped out by policy of smiling at customers to the workers not having any of the morning pep-rally bullshit to the management being shocked that they couldn't undercut the prices at the competition. Do you have a link? That sounds hilarious. Doesn't Germany have some kind of law like half of a corporation's board has to be made up of union members?
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The_Franz posted:Reading the tale of Walmart failing in Germany is always enjoyable, from german customers being creeped out by policy of smiling at customers to the workers not having any of the morning pep-rally bullshit to the management being shocked that they couldn't undercut the prices of the competition. It's fun trying to adapt the wal-mart approach to customer interaction to suit the extremely dreary British public. Basically you have to ignore all the stuff they tell you to do and just go with your normal human interaction skills, otherwise you really put people off.
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Xae posted:Churn and Burn. It does actually. Training costs and there is no such thing as unskilled work. Somebody that spends 20 years unloading trucks is going to do it way more quickly than a new guy. People who know they will be taken good care of are loyal productive employees who give a crap. Look at Walmart now. Their employees just don't give a poo poo. Plus the skeleton crews of underpaid teenagers give garbage customer service that is driving people elsewhere if options exist.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It does actually. Training costs and there is no such thing as unskilled work. Somebody that spends 20 years unloading trucks is going to do it way more quickly than a new guy. People who know they will be taken good care of are loyal productive employees who give a crap. Look at Walmart now. Their employees just don't give a poo poo. Plus the skeleton crews of underpaid teenagers give garbage customer service that is driving people elsewhere if options exist. Processes are designed to minimize the skills required. It is about the time to proficiency. Wal-Mart knows that their turn over rates are poo poo, so everything is designed to be operated by someone with minimal skills.
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The_Franz posted:Reading the tale of Walmart failing in Germany is always enjoyable, from german customers being creeped out by policy of smiling at customers to the workers not having any of the morning pep-rally bullshit to the management being shocked that they couldn't undercut the prices of the competition. Trying to compete on price in Germany, land of the discount supermarket. Yeah you're totally going to win a price battle with Lidl and Aldi. Aldi a chain so miserly that they didn't have a telephone line in their stores and made their employees memorize all article codes rather than buy a barcode scanner.
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