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Wiltsghost posted:This took me down a rabbit hole. These dudes are insane. Guy Martin is a loving legend.
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1500quidporsche posted:I plugged my headphones into my work laptop one day and it completely fried the hard drive and I got two days off of work free. Still use them to this day. I have headphones that force any android phone I plug them into to reboot. Also stop going on about rich people buying poo poo, you're a loving hypocrite when you'd spend 1500 quid on a porsche
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iospace posted:GET YOUR GANGTAGS HERE: I'll take one, centered please.
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Tony Montana posted:When was the last time you saw a F1 race in person? 2006
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Wiltsghost posted:This took me down a rabbit hole. These dudes are insane. I'm a motorcyclist. My rear end in a top hat didn't unpucker for 3 minutes.
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Carth Dookie posted:I'm a motorcyclist. You'll love the IOM TT. You'd be able to cut the ends off cigars with your ring piece.
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I've watched it several times on TV. Those guys are mad. My dad wants to go see it live but I'm not sure I want to spend 18 hours on a plane to stand in the rain on some windswept moor surrounded by gnarled bovril drinkers just to watch a bike whizz past every couple of minutes, especially knowing for a fact that some of them won't be coming back. I'll probably be going to Phillip Island for the MotoGP in the next few years though.
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Carth Dookie posted:The only reason he's rolling out is cus the fat old gently caress owes people money. LOL if you aren't old enough to remember we only got F1 in australia in the 80s and early 90s on ch. 9 after midnight hosted by Daryl Eastlake and AJ. Same for motogp, Daryl Eastlake and Sheene. It may have even been before ch. 10 was even in perth. Things only changed to live or a more reasonable hour when ch. 10 took over motorsports. They kept sheene but dumped AJ. I can't remember who was with crompton for F1
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Ferrari: 8 WCCs since 1998, wow, that's really good.
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Looking forward to the rest of today's Tony-post frenzy.
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Tony Montana posted:I entered this thread saying this stuff, mate. Don't try and pull the race card and try to generate some outrage, surely people are getting wise to that poo poo now. I'm talking about Formula One and what I am saying is what Enzo said before he died. It's common knowledge the English rode the post WW2 era with all the aerodynamicists they had from building aircraft for the war. Italy never had that level of sophistication. Engine design stagnated, so crate engines were a thing and Enzo's lead in engine building withered as aero technology became more and more important in F1 car design. He kept trying with crazy V12s and stuff, but eventually the crate Cosworth you could buy was just as good and you didn't have 5 guys who came from building Spitfires to help you design wings. Sorry to hear you relapsed.
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I just ordered Ross Brawn's "Total Competition" book, I'll let you lads and lassies know how it goes.Cactrot posted:He beat piece of human garbage Jacky Ickx after dying at Monza. Jacky literally makes me want to punch him in the face. All the motorsport docus and things I've read make him literally the hugest piece of poo poo.
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I'm curious how much that Brawn book has to do with racing
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Norns posted:I'm curious how much that Brawn book has to do with racing My understanding is it has more to do with his management style and how he got multiple teams to world championships vs. talking in detail about the technical aspects of various F1 cars.
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I want Perez in a faster car.
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Perez has actually been impressive these last couple years. I could see him being a #2 at Ferrari.
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I don't know if Perez is WDC caliber (though in a faster car who knows), but he's definitely a "Good driver who won't challenge your #1 but will help secure a WCC" at least.
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Yeah hes fast enough to push your lead driver and if he dials back his aggressiveness from lack of patience while becoming a bit more consistent he'd be able to push for a WDC.
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Tony Montana posted:I entered this thread saying this stuff, mate. Don't try and pull the race card and try to generate some outrage, surely people are getting wise to that poo poo now. I'm talking about Formula One and what I am saying is what Enzo said before he died. It's common knowledge the English rode the post WW2 era with all the aerodynamicists they had from building aircraft for the war. Italy never had that level of sophistication. Engine design stagnated, so crate engines were a thing and Enzo's lead in engine building withered as aero technology became more and more important in F1 car design. He kept trying with crazy V12s and stuff, but eventually the crate Cosworth you could buy was just as good and you didn't have 5 guys who came from building Spitfires to help you design wings. Nice meltdown.
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Holy Cheese posted:I want Perez in a faster car. Like I said before, Perez deserved the shot at Merc.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-alonso-winning-mclaren-summer-915635/
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/kubica-f1-test-showed-what-i-lost-915113 Both  and  .
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He's gone 100%. By September they'll be lucky to be at least in the points. Williams welcomes you with open arms, Alonso. Please make us your new project. We have Mercedes engines.
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What's the chance that this and Brown's statements weren't coordinated? 0.00001%?
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wicka posted:What's the chance that this and Brown's statements weren't coordinated? 0.00001%? Brown went to Reuters and Motorsport.com held off on dropping it for a while. I think there's definitely some carefully crafted PR at work.
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I'm excited we get silly mixup before silly season! We get McLaren with a new engine. Or Nando moves.
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Norns posted:I'm excited we get silly mixup before silly season! I think it's boiled down to "Honda buy the Mercedes tech or this is completely done."
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Realistically if McLaren split from Honda I doubt they could afford Alonso so either way he's gone unless the Honda engine improves.
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1500quidporsche posted:I think it's boiled down to "Honda buy the Mercedes tech or this is completely done." I think it's more that this next planned upgrade is Honda's last chance. McLaren need to see real progress or they're gone. McLaren also want that upgrade ASAP, but Honda aren't going to rush it given the circumstances. Also, the last race in September is Singapore, there's no way that's a coincidence.
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1500quidporsche posted:I think it's boiled down to "Honda buy the Mercedes tech or this is completely done." I don't think money will ever be a problem in that regard. The owners seem willing to inject cash short-term if it becomes necessary. Brown all but said he was doing the bidding of the board, and they know exactly what it means for their bottom line if they drop Honda. Have to imagine they're willing to deal with the consequences.
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I know this hasn't been the best F1 year ever. But as a whole. With the MCLRN drama. Bernie being out. Nando doing the 500. Mercs very likely not to win. Pretty awesome if you ask me.
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wicka posted:I don't think money will ever be a problem in that regard. The owners seem willing to inject cash short-term if it becomes necessary. Brown all but said he was doing the bidding of the board, and they know exactly what it means for their bottom line if they drop Honda. Have to imagine they're willing to deal with the consequences. Were talking about a $130mil swing in budget ($145 if you include retaining Nando) which is about a third the budget of a bigger team. Maybe the Bahrainis would foot the bill if oil was $100 a barrel but I think they'll probably be asking for some cost savings for atleast a year if this does happen.
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I hope McLaren wins some stupid fluke race and Alonso has to stay. I mean, it's not like he'd actually have to stay, but it would be very funny.
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1500quidporsche posted:Were talking about a $130mil swing in budget ($145 if you include retaining Nando) which is about a third the budget of a bigger team. Maybe the Bahrainis would foot the bill if oil was $100 a barrel but I think they'll probably be asking for some cost savings for atleast a year if this does happen. You've gotta think of it more like an investment than a subsidy. Dropping Honda would presumably set the team up for greater long-term success - better on track results, more prize money, and because of that, greater sponsorship revenue. They'd only really need to support the team for a single season if it goes as planned, and if putting the Mercedes engine in their car doesn't make them contend for wins, they've got way worse problems.
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If Alonso leaves Mclaren, where the hell does he go? Only places he can really go is Ferrari and Mercedes and as much as I can see both teams ditching Raikkonen and Bottas, I can't imagine Vettel or Hamilton letting him be a teammate. But also lol if he goes to Red Bull.
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keevo posted:If Alonso leaves Mclaren, where the hell does he go? Only places he can really go is Ferrari and Mercedes and as much as I can see both teams ditching Raikkonen and Bottas, I can't imagine Vettel or Hamilton letting him be a teammate. But also lol if he goes to Red Bull. Renault would take him in a heartbeat but my guess is he's banking on a Ferrari seat.
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wicka posted:You've gotta think of it more like an investment than a subsidy. Dropping Honda would presumably set the team up for greater long-term success - better on track results, more prize money, and because of that, greater sponsorship revenue. They'd only really need to support the team for a single season if it goes as planned, and if putting the Mercedes engine in their car doesn't make them contend for wins, they've got way worse problems. Let's assume for a moment Alonso does leave, and Stoffel re-signs. Who does McLaren pick up to make them competitive for wins? Lewis, both RBR drivers, and Ocon are locked up for next year. keevo posted:If Alonso leaves Mclaren, where the hell does he go? Only places he can really go is Ferrari and Mercedes and as much as I can see both teams ditching Raikkonen and Bottas, I can't imagine Vettel or Hamilton letting him be a teammate. But also lol if he goes to Red Bull. Both Kimi and Bottas's contract expire this year. I don't see anyone taking Kimi after this unless they absolutely need a driver, or he goes off to do something else, either is likely possible (or both). Let's put it like this actually, there's only six drivers locked into next rides next year via contracts: Ocon (FI), K-Mag (Haas), Lewis (Merc), both RBRs, and Hulkenberg (Renault). iospace fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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