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Minto Took posted:Wear ear protection. yeah this, I have horrible tinnitus from years of big blocks
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VikingSkull posted:this is partly the reason why I think the engines should be based on production units, ideally stuff that is used in other forms of motor sports I'm in agreement with this. There's gotta be some sort of compromise that could be made to not disrupt what the series has, but at the same time allows for more competition.
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At least Indy engines are using cams still, not pneumatic valve actuation.
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https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/872287002733031424 https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/869720323452788736 Welp, Kinda guarantees that Sato's DW-12 is going to the museum in Motegi now. I don't think Honda Japan has been this proud of something from AOWR for a long time. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 06:27
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It would be awesome to see four chassis makers in the series but until IndyCar gets Another engine or two maybe, but chassis just seems like it'd go a bit too far somehow.
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Cygni posted:Indycars aren't really that loud by racecar standards, the fm headset by itself would prolly be ok really Clearly you've never been to an IndyCar oval race... Also from the OP: quote:All Verizon IndyCar Series races are broadcast live on the Advance Auto Parts INDYCAR Radio Network, Sirius 212, XM 209, IndyCar.com, indycarradio.com and on the INDYCAR Mobile app. This is a list of all US radio stations that will broadcast the Texas race
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iospace posted:At least Indy engines are using cams still, not pneumatic valve actuation. Well their rev range doesn't really call for them
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KingShibby posted:Clearly you've never been to an IndyCar oval race... Fontana, Phoenix, IMS, Nazareth, Vegas, Atlanta, and I think one other. IRL, CART, and current IndyCar. Admittedly i dont remember much of a few of those cause i was small, but Fontana was pretty recent and I don't remember it being that bad at all compared to other series. ymmv i guess
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The old IRL 4.0Ls were hilariously loud. The NASCAR guys who sat around us were stuffing cigarette butts into their ears.
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Cygni posted:Fontana, Phoenix, IMS, Nazareth, Vegas, Atlanta, and I think one other. IRL, CART, and current IndyCar. You're right, the current formula is relatively quiet because turbos are pretty effective mufflers. The problem is that they're right smack in the super dangerous grey area of "quiet enough to not be painful, but loud enough to do damage."
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I'm a giant wuss when it comes to noise (poo poo, I rarely go to concerts because I hate loud places) and I got through everything at Indy, including the 500, without ever needing earplugs
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Yeah, I think I used earbuds at Fontana (to listen to the PA) and felt fine. To be fair, I grew up around racecars and my ears are probably hot hot garbage.
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Fontana was worse when you were underneath the suite/press box, the sounds were magnified pretty badly.
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In the stands in Fontana isn't so bad because the rest of the area around the track is so open (and I've never sat below the press box). The Allison stands at Phoenix, and just about any stand on the front straight at IMS, are much louder thanks to reverberation. With that said I actually had better noise reduction from some snug-fitting earbuds than from my scanner headset.
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So, RA tally stands at: -KingShibby -iospace -Lord Crapulus -Tupacalypse Anyone I missed? iospace fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Do you guys think that people often forget to factor in the amount of money tobacco used in auto racing when being critical of things like attendance, car counts and such? It feels like people seem to hyper focus on "The Split" for Indycar's problems, but man..Tobacco really did fund a lot of drivers, venues and teams.
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I'm trying to hunt for it, with no luck, but in the past someone linked an old report from Phillip Morris or another cig company that outlined how auto racing would be negatively affected by the loss of tobacco money, and it was pretty spot on. The loss of their sponsor money hurt both sides of the split, and still affects the modern series. While unsuccessfully looking for that report, I did stumble across an old doctoral dissertation about Indycar & its venues: http://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3178&context=utk_graddiss Bentai fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Do you guys think that people often forget to factor in the amount of money tobacco used in auto racing when being critical of things like attendance, car counts and such? Yep. Tobacco money got exposure, helped pay for TV deals, got eyes on the series, and provided tickets. The sponsorship helped float many teams, either through driver sponsors or direct team sponsorship.
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Texas is this weekend, reminder of the finish of the rained out race last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv8KNya9aeA (the whole race wasnt that close, but the ending was amazing.)
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FuzzySkinner posted:It feels like people seem to hyper focus on "The Split" Fuzzy did you just become self-aware? I'm so proud! Also the selfish part of me hopes the race gets delayed because I have poo poo I need to do this weekend so I can't go up to the race.
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Talk about there being a second full time car for RLL next year: http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/141264-rahal-closing-in-on-second-indycar-entry-for-2018 I don't particularly like Rahal (either of them) but more cars is nothing but great.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Do you guys think that people often forget to factor in the amount of money tobacco used in auto racing when being critical of things like attendance, car counts and such? It's easier to focus on The Split because it was an easily identified single event with definite and traceable effects. Tobacco money going away was more gradual, especially when you had things like the non-branded Penske cars. This car didn't say Marlboro anywhere on it, but everyone knew where the money came from. 
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Lord Crapulus posted:Talk about there being a second full time car for RLL next year: http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/141264-rahal-closing-in-on-second-indycar-entry-for-2018 Harding said they'd be going full time next year too, after Indy, Texas, and Pocono this year. That's hopefully +2 for next year's grid, making it 23 cars for the season. Maybe one more in the next two years if Juncos gets everything together, for 24. That's got to be close to the upper limit for what Honda and Chevy can furnish, you think?
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IOwnCalculus posted:It's easier to focus on The Split because it was an easily identified single event with definite and traceable effects. That car and paint combo is nooooot a good one. Might be the sharp angles.
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Sponsorship situation at Texas is pretty bleak. 3 Andretti cars blank, Rahal running Lanigan's company on the side, and Dixon running the probably-not-paying NTT Data colors. Youch.
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WindyMan posted:
I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that both manufacturers had committed to supplying 13 full time entries each next year. Feels Villeneuve posted:No paint job looked good on that car. In road course/short oval trim, with just the right paint job, at just the right angle, the IR-05 was an alright looking car. vvvv Nah, the first generation IRL cars (IR-7 and whatever the G-Force one was) were even worse. Except the Riley & Scott, it was alright. Slow as hell, but it looked fine. Theris fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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The IR-05 is probably the least attractive racing car ever created.
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the 1997-1998 IRL cars weren't great but the 1999-2002 cars were good lookers.  Also I had forgotten about the IRL trying to make touring car-style numberplates a thing.
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wicka posted:The IR-05 is probably the least attractive racing car ever created. I actually have never minded the DW12 that much just because of what came before it.
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Bentai posted:Fontana was worse when you were underneath the suite/press box, the sounds were magnified pretty badly. Yeah, the stands are like a big funnel. I never had any problems out in the open. Not even the 4 liters.
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The thing that sucked about the 2000's Dallara chassis was apparently we could have had Reynard's and Lola's create their own chassis to compete with them. (per an old Miller Mailbag). But that didn't happen...
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Cygni posted:Sponsorship situation at Texas is pretty bleak. 3 Andretti cars blank, Rahal running Lanigan's company on the side, and Dixon running the probably-not-paying NTT Data colors. Youch. Lol that is really bad
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the 1997-1998 IRL cars weren't great but the 1999-2002 cars were good lookers. I appreciate the number plates but they just don't look great on open-wheel cars. Also blue Menards look secretly the best Menards look.
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For best looking car of that era, it's all about the 3rd chassis that never ran*... THE FALCON, BABY: gotta love a chassis bankrolled purely out of spite *some people say it did get tested once, but there are zero pictures and the only mockup ive ever seen of the car has fake suspension mountings and looks to just be a carbon shell so uh, i dunno about that.
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harperdc posted:I appreciate the number plates but they just don't look great on open-wheel cars. the best Menards look was the one-race-only Cingular Wireless/Menards car 
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Robby Gordon's electric yellow and blue car from the '99 500 was gonna drop in and say hi, but it ran out of fuel on the way here.
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