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evilweasel posted:who cares if it's a good idea, the idiot writer thinks you convict with a bare majority of the senate Hahaha, I didn't even see that. Yeah, Kos, ladies and gents.
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Archonex posted:When I think of viable candidates to run against Trump and his appeal to misogyny and bigotry I think of women that have been systematically slandered by conservatives since they obtained even an iota of power and influence. That will certainly win everyone over and stop the Republicans from destroying our rights! it's still dumb but your reasons for opposing it are ALSO dumb
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Is there any legal problem with Comey leaking his memo? Did we hear him say it was declassified?
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Trump's speech at Faith and Freedom Coalition posted:The entrenched interests and failed bitter voices in Washington will do everything in their power to try and stop us from this righteous cause, to try to stop all of you. Trump's speech at Faith and Freedom Coalition posted:Family is the foundation of American life, and we are proud to stand together with all of you to promote and protect family values.
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Xae posted:42 Minute and we're back to Slapfights and Hentai. I forgot that people are complex creatures who can perhaps care about multiple things at once. I've spoken with a lot of humans in my time, I think I can attest to this. Also how the gently caress can you not talk about hentai at a time like this, this is amazing
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Brony Car posted:I have no opinion on this. Why do you think she has been great? She's competent at her job, and she will get the votes if needed.
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theflyingorc posted:can you read, because he's not talking about her running a campaign, dude Read the arcticle? Using evidence and facts is a sign of NEOLIBERALISM you fuckign shill.
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cochise posted:You can't say this until the piss tapes are released. No. Not until he accidentally streams himself jacking off.
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Vegetable posted:Is there any legal problem with Comey leaking his memo? Did we hear him say it was declassified? None. The only reason it was a "leak" was because he wanted to obfuscate that he was the person providing the info. It was completely and totally legal.
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Vegetable posted:Is there any legal problem with Comey leaking his memo? Did we hear him say it was declassified?
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Retro42 posted:I haven't really seen it mentioned here but every time Comey was asked why he was fired he responded with some variation of "I was fired because of the Russian investigation because the President said as much." Seems like that will be fairly damning testimony as the Special Counsel puts a case together. There is nothing legally wrong with firing Comey because of the Russian investigation.
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Vegetable posted:Is there any legal problem with Comey leaking his memo? Did we hear him say it was declassified? He explicitly said he wrote it declassified. Reasoning it would be easier to pass around the office that way. Don't think that's really considered a leak.
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Brony Car posted:I have no opinion on this. Why do you think she has been great? like i said, there's basically been zero defections in the House where the person's vote was needed since 2006 that's her job. when it comes to campaigning, that's usually someone else's job, her job is to keep her caucus in line and to get bills passed and she's always been very, very good at it. her job isn't to be popular, and usually her job requires being the bad guy for her members.
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Vegetable posted:Is there any legal problem with Comey leaking his memo? Did we hear him say it was declassified? He said many of those memos were unclassified to begin with, but that he does not personally have them anymore. It's up to Mueller or any journalists who still possess them. There are no legal problems with the leak because they were not classified and he was acting as a private citizen passing on his own recollections and writeups.
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theflyingorc posted:can you read, because he's not talking about her running a campaign, dude Given that i'm at work and can't spare the time to read the article (Never mind how fast the thread is moving.) I assumed "2018 is a presidential year: Trump vs Pelosi" was indicative of some sort of attempt to position her to run during the next election. My bad.
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Drone posted:God I wish she'd loving retire. As a party leader she's been pretty much terrible across the board. Props for being the first female Speaker of the House and all, but just... please let someone else hold the reins for awhile. Pelosi is VERY good at her job. If you believe otherwise you've been suckered by Republican party shtick. Is she a good person? No she's a career politician. Of course not. You don't get to be a majority leader by being nice.
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Vegetable posted:Is there any legal problem with Comey leaking his memo? Did we hear him say it was declassified? No, those memos were never classified.
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Brony Car posted:I have no opinion on this. Why do you think she has been great? She does an amazing job at whipping the caucus, passed legislation we need (like a climate bill) and uses all the tools and techniques of the House she can to Democrats' advantage. Comparing her to the history of Congress, we have to go far back to find a better Speaker. Archonex posted:Given that i'm at work and can't spare the time to read the article (Never mind how fast the thread is moving.) I assumed "2018 is a presidential year: Trump vs Pelosi" was indicative of some sort of attempt to position her to run during the next election. My bad. 2018 isn't a presidential election year. She'll be running in 2018 for her seat in SF. Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Trump is a very good example for the people who don't get that Hitler wasn't personally a Christian even though he said Bible-y things in his speeches
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Drone posted:at? Presiding over the Democrats losing control of the House and then failing to adapt to the strategies an opposition party needs to maintain? she's not the head of the dnc, this is not her job at all pelosi was amazingly effective as speaker of the house and has been spectacular as house minority leader her politics are somewhat questionable, but she has absolutely crushed it in the role she's been put in
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The best thing for the democrats would be a blue wave in 2020. They need to take all the state houses to fix the districts into not giving the GOP a 5-8% advantage in the popular vote for congressional seats. The worst thing is Nancy loving Pelosi taking office in 2018, giving the republicans back the opposition title with a nationally unpopular woman president to bring the regressives out in droves again when we are beyond due for a recession.
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Jaxyon posted:Pelosi is VERY good at her job. If you believe otherwise you've been suckered by Republican party shtick. I agree with this. As a leader she has been ruthless in her job of herding cats, and has made it very clear to her caucus that unauthorized defections will be punished severely. If you need a hall pass, you have to ask and if the answer is no, fall in line or else. She's probably not a fun person to work with, but she's really good at her job.
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It sucks that WaPo has literally just written an article about how Comey has become the thing he hated because he "leaked" his memo. They compare his action to the leaks of classified info that he has raged against. It's lazy reporting.
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Kaddish posted:There is nothing legally wrong with firing Comey because of the Russian investigation. wrong, that's what obstruction of justice is
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the talent deficit posted:she's not the head of the dnc, this is not her job at all Yup. She shouldn't be immune from criticism for her positions, but as minority leader she's done a great job.
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Kaddish posted:There is nothing legally wrong with firing Comey because of the Russian investigation. wrong https://twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/872856845043609600
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theflyingorc posted:wrong, that's what obstruction of justice is No, it's not, at least in this context. You would more correct with the Flynn conversation.
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Pelosi is excellent at the job of whipping votes. Politically she seems like a net negative, but pretty much 100% of voting is based on 1) Tribal identity and 2) Opinions about the president. So, it's debatable whether anyone else in her shoes would be any better at the "get/keep dems in power" part of the job.
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Dietrich posted:The best thing for the democrats would be a blue wave in 2020. They need to take all the state houses to fix the districts into not giving the GOP a 5-8% advantage in the popular vote for congressional seats. The worst thing is Nancy loving Pelosi taking office in 2018, giving the republicans back the opposition title with a nationally unpopular woman president to bring the regressives out in droves again when we are beyond due for a recession. Nancy Pelosi would not be good for the Presidency. She will go to bat for the President though if asked. She got Cap and Trade through the House somehow.
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Kaddish posted:No, it's not, at least in this context. You would more correct with the Flynn conversation. wrong given that you are saying wrong, stupid things based on nothing more than your authority as a person who has heard law-speaking things, i dont feel the need to say anything more
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what the hell did he think was gonna happen in the comey testimony, having an interviewed scheduled in the first place
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I am holding down vomit after reading this. It's beyond obvious that Trump isn't at all a believer in a higher power, yet the religious right will believe every drat word he says.
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Kaddish posted:There is nothing legally wrong with firing Comey because of the Russian investigation. If the intent was to obstruct justice, which it certainly seems that it was, then I'm afraid I have some bad news for you...
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Kaddish posted:No, it's not, at least in this context. You would more correct with the Flynn conversation. Firing a person, even if you're allowed to fire that person for any reason, to impede an investigation is obstruction of justice.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What is the point of my CNN+ subscription if they just give away the good stuff for free? What is cnn+?
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Kaddish posted:No, it's not, at least in this context. You would more correct with the Flynn conversation. Firing the FBI director because you don't like him, or you think he's bad at his job, or because you think he has a goofy face and wears cheap suits are all fine and legal. Firing the director of the FBI with the intention of stopping the Russia investigation is obstruction of justice, and is a Federal crime. A sitting president can not be prosecuted for a federal crime because he's the president, but he still broke the law. There are just no legal consequences while he's in office. If he were impeached and not pardoned, he could then be prosecuted for it.
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I mean the only negative thing I can say about Pelosi is she's part of the old guard. I do think it's time for a new coat of paint on the Democratic party, and I'd like to see a bigger stretch to appeal to both young people and marginal voters. An overall party facelift would help that, and Pelosi is kind of the opposite of that. That said, she's very good at her actual job.
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evilweasel posted:wrong Well, you don't need to say anything more - unfortunately it doesn't make you right. The President has the authority to fire the FBI directory for any reason, or no reason, as Comey himself stated earlier today.
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