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It looks like Vermont is going to legalize http://hightimes.com/news/vermont-lawmakers-approve-measure-to-legalize-recreational-marijuana/ I don't want to sound like a broken record but good omen for New Jersey
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Wouldn't Christie get a say in that?
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Dmitri-9 posted:It looks like Vermont is going to legalize What sort of statements has the governor made? There haven't been a whole lot of governors willing to sign these sorts of bills into law.
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Ego-bot posted:Wouldn't Christie get a say in that? Christie's term limited. The election for his replacement is this year
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May 11, 2017 04:23
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Oh, I was thinking the decision would be sometime this year.
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Ego-bot posted:Oh, I was thinking the decision would be sometime this year. A decision could be made this year, but the legislature might punt to the next tern and next gov in 2018.
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Now that NH is soon to be surrounded by rec legal states, expect that domino to fall soon too I guess.
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Tonton Macoute posted:Malta is an insignificant city state in the middle of a sea, but the leaders of both political parties came out in favour of debating Canada or Portugal type of decrim yesterday. Much of it seems to be preelection posturing, but I would be cautiously optimistic. Every time Malta is in the news it seems like it's doing something cool and progressive, so that's good I guess.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Now that NH is soon to be surrounded by rec legal states, expect that domino to fall soon too I guess. https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/new-hampshire-on-verge-of-decriminalizing-cannabis-possession We have a decriminalization bill that is widely expected to pass. No arrest and/or jail time for up to three-quarters of an ounce of cannabis.
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Here's a run down of Cannabis legalisation stances of five of the parties standing for election in the UK today. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/legalising-cannabis-lib-dem-tory-10486459 I wouldn't get excited about the Lib Dems, they have nine seats and made no moves on legalisation when in a coalition government. The Greens are even smaller and have dropped references to legalisation in their manifesto.
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Sessions is starting to warm up his War on Cannabis machine. He's asked Congress to remove protections on Medical Marijuana states so he can sic the Justice Dept. on the providers.quote:Jeff Sessions personally asked Congress to let him prosecute medical-marijuana providers
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This makes me miserable. I use cannabis oil (CBD) for pain. It can't get you high. None of the other drugs work on me and I don't want to resort to opioids. An addiction will really make my life better! gently caress Jeff Sessions, the evil S.O.B. Republicans: the party of State's Rights, ladies and gentlemen.
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Congress has no chance of approving that. Even red states like weed now and no politician is going to jeopardize reelection over weed
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:Congress has no chance of approving that. Even red states like weed now and no politician is going to jeopardize reelection over weed Let's add it to the long list of things that will "never happen."
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Actually the way the amendment process works they can just decide not to vote on them and no more protections after September 30th.
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Legal in Nevada now
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Legal and doing quite well, apparently:quote:Recreation sales bring record business to Las Vegas marijuana dispensaries quote:First days of recreational pot sales generate $1 million in taxes There was some fear that it wouldn't happen, because as a bribe (assumedly) to Big Liquor, alcohol wholesalers supposedly have exclusive distribution rights; but something or other happened and they managed to make the July 1 early start regardless. I assume the details of that will be hammered out in the coming days.
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More updates: From fox13now quote:Nevada running out of weed, ‘statement of emergency’ declared The issue from before where alcohol wholesalers wanted distribution rights has now gummed up the works entirely. From what I know, stores had a fairly large cache of weed to sell, but now it's running out and they can't get more. None of the alcohol distributors have proper licenses and so no weed is moving. Originally this was reported as a state of emergency; they had to go back and correct it as a statement. Funnier the original way, though. 
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I too, declare an emergency when I run out of weed. *takes victory bong rip for making most obvious joke*
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I bet people are hoarding it. When my state legalized I bought five pounds to bury in the backyard incase they decided to make it a crime again. It's like gold but weed.
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WampaLord posted:I too, declare an emergency when I run out of weed. efb on the obvious joke *takes consolation bong rip*
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Nevada growers are right to be hoarding weed, because Sessions continues to assemble his War on Drugs 2.0 (Grits & Gravy Edition) Mecha to shut down this weed problem once and for all. Good article from the Times summing up the current situation: quote:States Keep Saying Yes to Marijuana Use. Now Comes the Federal No. It's all going to come down to whether Senate leaders strike the rules holding him back or they don't. If they strike the rules, I guarantee you Sessions will start using the Justice Department to go after marijuana businesses in legal states. Then we'll get to see what happens when a tyrannical federal government goes up against the will of the people. (weed civil war??)
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That's just going to only further piss off people that are already pissed off with Trump as president.
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It's amazing that they don't realize weed is popular, even among Republicans. A lot of their older constituents want it for actual medical reasons, and a much larger part just want it because it's awesome. The part of the party that would actually revolt and not vote for them anymore if they went "Hey, we're dropping the fight on weed to focus on opiates" must be vanishingly small. It makes zero sense, it's just letting Sessions pursue his own private bugaboo issue to the detriment of their own electoral chances.
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I wonder what libertarians will do if Sessions starts arresting people working at legal weed shops. My prediction: smugly oppose it, then vote Republican.
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WampaLord posted:It's amazing that they don't realize weed is popular, even among Republicans. A lot of their older constituents want it for actual medical reasons, and a much larger part just want it because it's awesome. The part of the party that would actually revolt and not vote for them anymore if they went "Hey, we're dropping the fight on weed to focus on opiates" must be vanishingly small. Black people like it and it will cause white women to listen to jazz music and fall victim to miscegenation. That's why pot was prohibited in the first place. It was used to demonize people by Nixon and further by Reagan because it's an easy way to persecute minorities with impunity. It's used in southern georgia to basically supply slave labor via maximum sentences for pot.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Black people like it and it will cause white women to listen to jazz music and fall victim to miscegenation. No, I totally get all that but we're in 2017 and marijuana acceptance has literally never been higher (pun intended). Like you would think a Paul Ryan type would be all over it and going "Wow, a great free market solution to raise revenue for states!" and pushing Sessions to focus on opiates, which are actually killing the party. I guess I'm naive as hell for thinking Republicans would evolve their views on anything but this seems like such an easy obvious win-win for them. Were I a GOP consultant, this is the poo poo I would be pushing to try to attract the next generation of voters.
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It's a way to disenfranchise disproportionally Dem voters en masse.
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paul ryan has 0% influence on jeff sessions
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StabbinHobo posted:paul ryan has 0% influence on jeff sessions Does the bully pulpit no longer exist? I understand no one except Trump can fire or directly influence him, but words can be said.
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The only folks against continued drug decriminalization and legalization is only Jeff Sessions, Steve King and Chuck Grassely. That's a overwhelming minority and prior to this ordeal Paul Ryan was even onboard with continued decriminalization.
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Tab8715 posted:The only folks against continued drug decriminalization and legalization is only Jeff Sessions, Steve King and Chuck Grassely. So... only the people with the power to do anything about it care about cracking down on legal cannabis? How reassuring.
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WampaLord posted:No, I totally get all that but we're in 2017 and marijuana acceptance has literally never been higher (pun intended). Popularity of the ACA has literally never been higher too, but guess what the republicans are trying to do there too? WampaLord posted:Does the bully pulpit no longer exist? I understand no one except Trump can fire or directly influence him, but words can be said. The Paul Ryan bully pulpit? That's not a thing, even if he wasn't a colossal schween who's only speaker because no one else was dumb enough yet popular enough to take the job after Boehner fled it. He simply doesn't have the gravitas.
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WampaLord posted:I guess I'm naive as hell for thinking Republicans would evolve their views on anything but this seems like such an easy obvious win-win for them. Were I a GOP consultant, this is the poo poo I would be pushing to try to attract the next generation of voters. I would agree: this is naive as hell. Culture war is culture war, and conservatives like Sessions (and the millions of people that think like him) will always battle for their "tribe". Marijuana will always be the signifier of degenerate persons like blacks, gays, and jazz musicians, and Good White Christians will fight against those kind of people forever.  This particular crowd of eager young right-wingers is in Ukraine, but those alt-righters and 3%ers you see massing in Texas and in Berkeley would happily hoist the same banner. They might even smoke weed themselves in private, but they still know marijuana is for "the other team". Tab8715 posted:The only folks against continued drug decriminalization and legalization is only Jeff Sessions, Steve King and Chuck Grassely. You're wrong. 40% of America is against legal weed, and that's the opinion that Sessions cares about. Actually he doesn't really even care about them, just his own ingrained bigotry, but he'll gladly position himself as fighting for the Moral Minority.
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the black husserl posted:Nevada growers are right to be hoarding weed, because Sessions continues to assemble his War on Drugs 2.0 (Grits & Gravy Edition) Mecha to shut down this weed problem once and for all. Good article from the Times summing up the current situation: finally we can have a civil war that's actually about state's rights
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BarbarianElephant posted:So... only the people with the power to do anything about it care about cracking down on legal cannabis? How reassuring. They're not the only people with the power, in 2015 the house voted on an amendment that would have prevented Sessions from interfering with legal recreational weed and it failed narrowly even though the Republicans had a large majority in the house. If Sessions decided to go ahead with an unpopular crackdown there would certainly be another push for a similar thing.
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BarbarianElephant posted:So... only the people with the power to do anything about it care about cracking down on legal cannabis? How reassuring. the black husserl posted:You're wrong. 40% of America is against legal weed, and that's the opinion that Sessions cares about. Actually he doesn't really even care about them, just his own ingrained bigotry, but he'll gladly position himself as fighting for the Moral Minority. Republican leadership at a minimum is actually fine with decriminalization until Jeff Session and his authoritarian followers came and sniped the whole thing. Sure, maybe 40% of the Country is against marijuana legalization but only 3-4 congressmen are going to lengths of lock'em up and throw away the keys. This is probably not the best analogy but Jeff seems to be a lot like Jon Bolton. At face value, he's a Republican but behind closed doors he's strongly disliked even in his own party. The question is, will Trump and his own party put up with this sort of thing? Are we going we actually going to back to the "War on Drugs"? We'll find out in the next few weeks. Source - Unity Was Emerging on Sentencing. Then Came Jeff Sessions. Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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I suppose it depends on whether or not Rohrabacher turtles and shirks his budget amendment efforts with Blumenauer
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40% may be against adult use but only 10-20% are against medical. Here is a good profile of arch-conservative LDS billionaire philanthropist John Huntsman Sr. coming out in favor of medical cannabis: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2017/07/18/on-the-edge-huntsmans-stand-against-reefer-madness/#.WW4hudMrJYg
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