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Saros posted:
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Jun 8, 2017 13:36
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Of course it ended out being the last post on a page, :eyeroll: thanks for quoting it.
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Jun 8, 2017 13:38
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See this has always made me curious: who isn't just using "Jump to last read post" that they could miss it because it's the last post on a page?
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Jun 8, 2017 13:57
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Awful app has a thing where it sometimes skips to the next page from your last read post.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:00
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I'm wondering if the "Oh God Why!" is a sitting duck as it tows a ship back to dock?
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Jun 8, 2017 15:26
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Can't imagine it isn't, but the IC would be even stupider than goons if they went in for round 2 now with a Terran peacekeeping force inbound.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:30
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ashnjack posted:I'm wondering if the "Oh God Why!" is a sitting duck as it tows a ship back to dock? It's got the survivors of 9 CruDiv escorting it and the missile ships have refilled their magazines from its stores. It can also make a respectable 1500kps even with the Argyre in tow so the IC would really have to scramble to catch it.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:32
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Sign me up for a Command. Something Small and Fast, either a long range scout or something that might defend against raiding or take part in skirmish operations or like a fighter group or something. Whatever it is name my ship the: "A High Degree of Certainty in Future Military Operations"
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Jun 8, 2017 19:38
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Could you sign me up for a small warship called the Tragic Accident, please, Saros?
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Jun 8, 2017 21:29
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code:Removing the weapons/reactor and cramming in a larger high-res sensor in the freed up space could give you a sensor-fighter that might help bridge the dinkyship/FAC/fighter detection problem for the interim without designing a whole new ship class. Nice thing about fighters is you can make a bunch of variants without needing to retool shipyards, so there's not a huge investment if one doesn't work out. All IMO of course, you do you Mars. Also I'd like to be an officer too! Maybe something that is designed to kill a bunch of fighters/FACs in one blow - name it the B. L. Tailor. Thanks!
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Jun 8, 2017 21:42
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I would suggest a canister shot style missile. Roughly speaking take a size 10 missile and put about 1 space worth of engines and fuel on it. Then set 9 of your favorite anti-fighter missiles as sub-munitions. Bonus points if the remote activation of missile systems is still in. Just fire it in the right direction and let the sub-munition sensors do the tracking for you.
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Jun 8, 2017 22:17
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habituallyred posted:I would suggest a canister shot style missile. Roughly speaking take a size 10 missile and put about 1 space worth of engines and fuel on it. Then set 9 of your favorite anti-fighter missiles as sub-munitions. Bonus points if the remote activation of missile systems is still in. Just fire it in the right direction and let the sub-munition sensors do the tracking for you. I feel like that is tech dependent on having a high enough AS tech to be able to miniaturize the sensors for the submuns enough so that their sensors are long enough to get a lock. I may totally wrong though.
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Jun 8, 2017 22:24
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Neophyte posted:Well call me Ian Malcolm 'cause this must go faster! Speed is life for glasscannon fighters and these are pretty poky compared to even fleet ship speeds. If they get hit they're probably dead or mission killed, so I'd drop the redundant engines. And since boosted engines burn so much fuel you want them as large HS-wise as you can get for fuel savings as well. Revamping these with a single >48EP boosted engine is the way to go. Unfortunately we are 1) operating at very low tech so what is possible is limited by the max you can ramp up an engine and 2) nobody has ultra-optimised designs. Scout fighters exist and fuel is much less of an issue as we are operating inside Sol. Telsa Cola posted:I feel like that is tech dependent on having a high enough AS tech to be able to miniaturize the sensors for the submuns enough so that their sensors are long enough to get a lock. I may totally wrong though. Pretty much this, everyone is very tech limited.
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Jun 9, 2017 00:21
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Saros posted:Unfortunately we are 1) operating at very low tech so what is possible is limited by the max you can ramp up an engine Have you tried painting them red to make 'em go fasta? We are the Red Planet, after all. quote:Pretty much this, everyone is very tech limited. True, autonomous missiles are probably a ways away (and possibly a bad idea inside the crowded Inner System) but as far as two-stage missiles with submunitions... Size 1 MIRV....hmmm...hmmmm..... (is it too meta to use your game logs for intel?  )
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Jun 9, 2017 05:30
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Saros posted:
This completely rocks.
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Jun 9, 2017 08:05
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I'm glad I caught this towards the beginning. Looking forward to see where everything goes. Voting Outer, Special, Inner if that's still going. I like either idea of protecting the supply lines, or seeing what shenanigans the Terrans are up to on Pluto. I added myself to the officer list as well. If we develop something to the equivalent of a space-submarine (Stealth, Electronic Warfare, or Strategic Deterrence), I'd be totally in for that. If not, any support-type ship I end up in would be awesome. CupNoodle fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 10:05
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Neophyte posted:Size 1 MIRV....hmmm...hmmmm..... I did say the corvettes were bargain basement models using surplus missiles and launchers pulled from old destroyers!
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Jun 9, 2017 10:46
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 The Outer Solar System wins decisively! Theater Briefing: The Outer Solar System Generally the outer solar system refers to the expanses beyond the asteroid belt where the distances between planets transform from merely vast to staggeringly incomprehensible. However for our purposes Jupiter, its family of moons and the attendant forces are focused inward at present by the brewing conflict in the inner system. Our theater is essentially from Saturn outwards.  Human presence is mostly based on the larger moons or scattered throughout the many asteroids and comets. Our presence is limited in the outer planets. Just over 15 million call Triton, the moon of Neptune home and we have a small cloud harvesting operation on the gas giant itself. Triton is an oddity as the only moon in the solar system on a retrograde orbit, i.e. is orbits backwards compared to the direction of Neptune’s spin. Many theorise this is because it is an extrasolar capture from long ago.  Neptune rises over Triton’s horizon. The lynchpin for this theater is Triton fleet base. Capable of maintaining even our largest ships and with shipyards capable of constructing and repairing destroyers it was built at great expense in Mars orbit and painstakingly towed to the very edge of the solar system to protect our investment in Neptune. Triton defense fleet is the second largest body of Martian ships after the home fleet and is supported by a sizeable marine combat taskforce and a number of planetary defences including the formidable, battleship-sized PDC Trident.  Triton fleet base. Asteroids and kuiper belt objects in-theater have mostly small independent settlements, many of whom are sympathetic to Mars due to our provision of fuel and supplies from our Neptune operations ‘at cost’ over the last few years.  A specialised freighter lifts from the Neptunian gas operations. The Opposition: The IC has settlements and fleet bases on both the moons of Saturn and Uranus. The Gas giants themselves also have enormous, semi-mobile cloud harvesting stations in their atmospheres refining the precious Spice Sorium that keeps interplanetary travel going.  A series of Saturnian gas mining facilities. Both Titan and Titania, moons of Saturn and Uranus respectively have large military installations and Titan, being the IC’s third largest colony and home to over 180 million people has orbital shipyards expected to be capable of constructing or repairing ships up to cruiser size. Intel expects the Saturn IC fleet to be large and powerful, probably more than a match for the Triton defense fleet but from all indications Uranus has only a cruiser squadron and a few smaller PDC’s to defend it relying on both a response from Saturn and what appears to be the IC’s underestimation of the forces we are willing to commit to Neptune.  The Theater. Saros fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 15:52
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Saros posted:Triton is an oddity as the only moon in the solar system on a retrograde orbit, i.e. is orbits backwards compared to the direction of Neptune’s spin. Many theorise this is because it is an extrasolar capture from long ago. Fun fact: because of this Triton's orbit is slowly decaying and it will pass Neptune's Roche Limit sometime in the next couple billion years. This will cause the moon to get ripped apart by tidal forces and create a really nice ring around the planet. 
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Jun 9, 2017 17:12
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 Breaking news! Someone has leaked what claims to be parts of the Pluto paper a day early! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlM12evhxA
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Jun 9, 2017 17:19
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I'm looking forward to hearing what Space Alex Jones has to say about alien ruins on Pluto, and what kind of oxygen filters we should buy to stop the Solarists from poisoning our hab domes.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:23
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Grizzwold posted:Fun fact: because of this Triton's orbit is slowly decaying and it will pass Neptune's Roche Limit sometime in the next couple billion years. This will cause the moon to get ripped apart by tidal forces and create a really nice ring around the planet. It's absolutely typical for the Martian government to not have planned for the future.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:33
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I feel like the current position of the orbits gives IC a pretty big tactical advantage. They would probably be able to spot any major movement to/from Mars unless we went far out of our way to go around sensor-range (Or are the distances out there vast enough to mitigate that need?). What would the normal transit time be right now from Mars-Neptune vs Saturn-Neptune? CupNoodle fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 21:48
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Ehh, I don't see that as too concerning. We have a large base at Neptune, and our ships are faster than theirs. If we detected a large fleet leaving Saturn we could probably get to Neptune from Mars before they did. Mars is only about 15% further from Neptune than Saturn is currently. The key if we do kick off something major out there is seeing it early. I'd still stick to my previous stance of avoiding unnecessary military escalation though. If we send major reinforcements out then the IC strike Mars itself instead we would be utterly screwed.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:21
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DNA posted:I feel like the current position of the orbits gives IC a pretty big tactical advantage. They would probably be able to spot any major movement to/from Mars unless we went far out of our way to go around sensor-range (Or are the distances out there vast enough to mitigate that need?). Currently the distances are about so: Neptune - Mars ~4.5 billion km. Neptune - Saturn ~3.3 billion km. Neptune - Uranus ~1.6 billion km.  The light blue ring in this image is the orbit of Jupiter or about 800m km. The entire inner solar system easily fits within that ring. Saros fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 22:23
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Saros posted:
Forget that, what's the word on the Moose Count?!
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Jun 9, 2017 22:30
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Triton Defense Fleet Order of Battle Stats for the new ships are in the second post   For those not familiar with reading warship designations this is: - One each of a Battlecruiser and a Light Carrier - Three Cruisers, one close combat brawler, one antifighter and one Missile Cruiser. - Two support vessels carrying fuel, maintenence supplies and some missile reloads. - Four antimissile Light Cruisers. - Three Missile Destroyers. - Three Gun Destroyers. - Four Anti-fighter Frigates. - Two Fleet scouts. Triton Marine Task force Order of Battle:  - One Assault Carrier with eight boarding shuttles each carrying a company of Marines. - Six anti-fighter/anti-gunboat Corvettes. - Six Fast Corvettes with heavy lasers for breaching hulls. There are also a large number of ground forces on Triton and some Infantry transports. No more Marines however. Marine ships use experimental new engines which are prone to exploding (a lot) and gobble fuel like no tomorrow but are faster and stealthier. Great for sneaky insertions. Triton Fleet base is well supplied, there should be no shortage of fuel, supples or munitions for now. GOON ASSIGNMENTS:   There are still ships left but we are out of Goons, if you havent been assigned you probably asked for something big or oddly specific. Speak up if you'd rather get in on the action sooner. Saros fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 23:30
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CupNoodle fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 23:39
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Now I get to launch the massive missile salvos. 
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Jun 9, 2017 23:42
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Saros posted:There are still ships left but we are out of Goons, if you havent been assigned you probably asked for something big or oddly specific. Speak up if you'd rather get in on the action sooner. I remember asking for a ship of any persuasion before; can you get me in there so I can
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Jun 9, 2017 23:44
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I assume my fighter is lost in space? If so toss me into whatever as 2.Yooper.
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Jun 10, 2017 00:05
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 Kommandant-General Mukaikubo. The situation in the inner solar system is continuing to deteriorate. Terran peacekeeping forces are keeping the lid on it for now but high command estimates that it is only a matter of time until a state of open warfare exists between the Martian Colonial Federation and the Corporates. I am ordering the activation of operations plan SNAKEBITE. Proceed with independent actions against the outer system's Corporate holdings. Be aware that due to the unfortunate alignment of the planets you are operating independently and Fleet command has limited ability to provide you with reinforcements. Your priorities are in order: 1) Protect Triton and our Neptunian harvesting operations. 2) Impede Corporate harvesting operations in any way possible including destruction/capture of harvesters, tanker convoy interdiction or capture of Corporate. 3) Draw the maximum of Corporate forces as far out-system as possible weakening their ability to respond to inner-system threats. ---------------------------------- Goons its time to make plans: All your vessels listed in the post above are currently docked at Triton Fleet base off Neptune. You are free to propose missions and assign forces, intel will be providing what information they can and highlighting targets of opportunity but it is largely up to Goons to take some initiative here. Feel free to ask for clarification on anything you don't understand or want more info on.  This image shows the major convoy and resupply routes for the two powers in the outer solar system. This is the whole theater of operations.  Intel has also received a rather interesting bit of information about an unusual convoy apparently heading for Pluto. It is quite a large convoy with multiple cargo ships and what may be troop transports. Escort is estimated at 4-6 corvettes or destroyers but the IC cruiser Pintilie (class unknown) and her destroyer escort is currently at the (independent) Swift-Tuttle Colony provisioning and allowing her crew some R&R. The administration of Swift-Tuttle is sympathetic to us and will likely keep us updated on her movements but intel suspects she will be joining the convoy to provide a heavier presence. ---------------------------------- Last minute additions! Dr. Snark is assigned to the Fleet scout Tempest (previously Gale 004). DNA is assigned to DDG Hades (previously Endurance 015). Jack2142 requests transfer to Triton, he is assigned the Frigate Fang 004 and names it WindHund 2! As always the officer spreadsheet is here. Yooper posted:I assume my fighter is lost in space? If so toss me into whatever as 2.Yooper. I have, special, plans for Wing Commander Yooper. Saros fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 00:24
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The asteroid map north of Uranus looks like it would be a good conquest to help protect supply lines. Do we have rough hull amount/type intel for Corporate Uranus defenses? Though we may want to take out that convoy headed for Pluto before anything else.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:27
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The isolated convoy is the best target, as it allows us to destroy a relatively small IC task force and disrupt whatever operation they are performing without risking the defensive installations around Uranus or Saturn.
Morrow fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 01:35
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Coffeehitler posted:The asteroid map north of Uranus looks like it would be a good conquest to help protect supply lines. Do we have rough hull amount/type intel for Corporate Uranus defenses? Fleet Intel's best information is that there is at least one gunboat squadron and a cruiser division at Titania along with whatever fixed defenses the moon has.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:50
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I mean I might as well get some warcrimes in before I get sent off to who knows where to die horribly when we run into the hostile aliens. Stick me in whatever is least likely to explode upon contact with the enemy that's left.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:25
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Where is the current location of the convoy itself?
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Jun 10, 2017 02:28
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Saros posted:Dr. Snark is assigned to the Fleet scout Tempest (previously Gale 004). Welp. At least it's technically an intel ship, even if there's a 75% guarantee that I'm going to be exploded by a frigate that looks at me funny.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:03
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Toss me into a ship. Of whatever sort, it can't possibly be less action than I got in Coldest War.
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I'd like to propose three operations, in order of most important to least important: 1) The light carrier, one of the supply ships, a variety of lighter ships, and our fastest troop transports should proceed to Pluto itself at max haste. The IC convoy is highly limited by the speed of their slower ships, so a task force leaving from Triton should be able to beat them to the punch. The convoy indicates that Pluto is likely only lightly defended, given it's nature as a scientific installation. Once there, the task force should capture all IC assets and other sites of interest intact for study, and dig in to defend the planet. More assets can be shifted to Pluto or to intercept incoming forces if necessary. 2) We should send a heavy escort (including the dropship) to protect our own fuel ships, given that they're an obvious weak point. However, once they're past the orbit of Uranus, the dropship and several destroyers to deal with probable IC escorts should be dispatched to intercept a fuel convoy (do we know the timing on those?) on the Uranus-Jupiter route, destroying any escorts and capturing the tankers for transport back to Triton. The rest of the convoy can proceed to the point where inner system Martian forces can provide a response to any attack and then return home. 3) The two scouts should be dispatched to shadow incoming and outgoing traffic from Saturn and Uranus, in preparation for later offensive or defensive operations. Remaining ships should stay at Triton to be used as needed. Any thoughts? Also I'll throw my hat into the officer's ring, I guess.
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