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botany posted:you mean since brexit. why do americans always assume everything is about them. Trump was a bigger wake up call to Europe than Brexit. He's far more horrifying.
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Can someone explain why that UK news would not be prudent here if it was a USPol thread but it is in a Trump thread?
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beejay posted:Can someone explain why that UK news would not be prudent here if it was a USPol thread but it is in a Trump thread? its not us politics news, but its the only foreign elected leader besides bibi who pretends to like trump potentially going down
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Jun 8, 2017 22:27
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botany posted:you mean since brexit. why do americans always assume everything is about them. Because Brexit and Trump's victories seemed to point towards a nationalist trend, but then everyone saw what a dumpster fire Trump has been and thought "you know what, maybe the (((globalists))) aren't so bad".
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beejay posted:Can someone explain why that UK news would not be prudent here if it was a USPol thread but it is in a Trump thread? Last weekend I had to defend the honor of my favorite (and actually the best) pizza place. There are derails here, and the election result of our closest ally is a lot more important than someone other than me being wrong about pizza.
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beejay posted:Can someone explain why that UK news would not be prudent here if it was a USPol thread but it is in a Trump thread? It might be relevant since UK matters to us, but if we really wanted to go deep we'd probably need to take it into the UK thread. The Trump phenomenon is beyond our borders, he's the living hateful mascot of nationalism.
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theflyingorc posted:Trump was a bigger wake up call to Europe than Brexit. He's far more horrifying. Both threaten the established European political order of the last half-century and allow Russia, the world's largest mafia, to destabilize the world in their favor.
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beejay posted:Can someone explain why that UK news would not be prudent here if it was a USPol thread but it is in a Trump thread? whether or not it was truly the case--and genuine apologies for seeming like the ugly american about that--the US media will absolutely spin a Tory loss as a Trump repudiation and Trump will definitely tweet angry things plus there's a looming state visit I mean a Tory loss would be an absolutely hilarious foreign policy capper to a hilariously disastrous domestic week for Trump
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beejay posted:Can someone explain why that UK news would not be prudent here if it was a USPol thread but it is in a Trump thread? From an American perspective, the Tories losing their majority could be seen as a rejection of nativism by an electorate just recently rocked by two big terrorist attacks. Our allies rejecting a Trump-adjacent world view is bad for Trump and, by extension, good for America.
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cult member at airport posted:Because Brexit and Trump's victories seemed to point towards a nationalist trend, but then everyone saw what a dumpster fire Trump has been and thought "you know what, maybe the (((globalists))) aren't so bad". yes or maybe UK residents have reevaluated what they very barely voted for and made their decision accordingly. not saying that trump was no factor at all but it's a little annoying that americans always make every single thing about them, even if they gently caress up.
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Waffles Inc. posted:whether or not it was truly the case--and genuine apologies for seeming like the ugly american about that--the US media will absolutely spin a Tory loss as a Trump repudiation and Trump will definitely tweet angry things plus there's a looming state visit I think he only tweets about election results that he's happy with. He just stewed in anger after Macron won, and later on he was like "what, I like him, I backed him, really!" Even though he was cheerleading his opponent. If Ossof wins, I don't think Trump will say a drat thing that night.
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botany posted:yes or maybe UK residents have reevaluated what they very barely voted for and made their decision accordingly. not saying that trump was no factor at all but it's a little annoying that americans always make every single thing about them, even if they gently caress up. everything is about us
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Thanks everyone. I can barely keep up with US politics. Sounds like a good thing for the world, though.
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Here's a sort of gameday thread of the hearing on NYT and a breakdown of why poo poo is important: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/...col-left-region
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botany posted:yes or maybe UK residents have reevaluated what they very barely voted for and made their decision accordingly. not saying that trump was no factor at all but it's a little annoying that americans always make every single thing about them, even if they gently caress up. At one point in time, everything was about the Roman Empire. Then everything was about the British Empire. Someday soon, everything will be about China. But right now? It's still us. Not for long, and Trump is making that happen more quickly than it would have. But yes everything is about America sorry.
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Nate Silver is cautiously preparing to take his victory lap https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/872928508556845056
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botany posted:yes or maybe UK residents have reevaluated what they very barely voted for and made their decision accordingly. not saying that trump was no factor at all but it's a little annoying that americans always make every single thing about them, even if they gently caress up. France had ads with Hillary in them to remind everyone that voting was important. We have a mad idiot nuclear weapons. Brexit was the first problem, yes, but Trump's a lot more terrifying. Which is America's shame, not exceptionalism.
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theflyingorc posted:France had ads with Hillary in them to remind everyone that voting was important. We have a mad idiot nuclear weapons. Brexit was the first problem, yes, but Trump's a lot more terrifying. We're exceptionally shameful.
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When will UK polls be more or less final?
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Hellblazer187 posted:At one point in time, everything was about the Roman Empire. Then everything was about the British Empire. Someday soon, everything will be about China Why do people think this? That China is in any position to be the world superpower?
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theflyingorc posted:France had ads with Hillary in them to remind everyone that voting was important. We have a mad idiot nuclear weapons. Brexit was the first problem, yes, but Trump's a lot more terrifying. We saw Brexit and said "Oh yeah? You think you're better than me? NO ONE OUT-STUPIDS AMERICA!" If that ain't exceptionalism, I don't know what is.
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Jun 8, 2017 22:39
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Ignoring that last guy from Hawaii, here's the early field from the Senate in 2020. The only reason to vote against banishing Scott Brown into kiwiville would be to run for president proudly declaring you opposed Trump harder than anyone else. https://twitter.com/nielslesniewski/status/872930134654930945
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sugar free jazz posted:Why do people think this? That China is in any position to be the world superpower? They are the second biggest economy in the world, massive growth (although it's slowed down) and have literally a billion people.
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Well if every other super power cripples itself because regressive whites got their feefees hurt , then they win by default.
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https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/872898320124870656 So people are aware. "kink shaming"  kurtailures
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"What Comey described wasn’t obstruction of justice. Here’s why." https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m=.3f5752de8063 quote:According to Comey, Trump added that Flynn was “a good guy.” This is also true: Flynn is a combat veteran who served his country with bravery and distinction. The president added that Flynn had “been through a lot.” True again: He’d been fired in humiliating fashion, and his financial prospects were obviously dimmed by indications that he had been incompetent, if not deceitful.
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Pennsylvania just ended their public pension program for all state employees, judges, and county employees (teachers).
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Xae posted:Theresa May hosed up literally everything she touched for a couple of months and turned out to be a lovely campaigner. I've been paying tangential attention to it, but everything I have seen is that May has all of the charisma of Hillary with Trump's skill for saying the worst thing at every possible oppurtunity
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https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/872532952055513088 I'd be skeptical (also hopeful) of this if it weren't coming from a edit: nevermind he's not a law professor but still interesting. scuz fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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cant wait for trump to tweet congrats to may before someone explains to him what it means
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Rigel posted:The only reason to vote against banishing Scott Brown into kiwiville would be to run for president proudly declaring you opposed Trump harder than anyone else. Well that and really what purpose is served by cooperating with Republicans without the merest quid pro quo?
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scuz posted:https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/872532952055513088 lol he's an English professor
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:cant wait for trump to tweet congrats to may before someone explains to him what it means OMG, there is at least a 1 in 4 chance that this literally happens.
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Hellblazer187 posted:They are the second biggest economy in the world, massive growth (although it's slowed down) and have literally a billion people. The second biggest economy slowing down means difficulty providing for the billion people, and that billion people have afaik a severe demographic issue of not enough young people due to the one child policy. China has massive problems.
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scuz posted:https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/872532952055513088 2019. Magic number, nobody brought it up today, much. Nothing happens before then, people understood this on November 8.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Pennsylvania just ended their public pension program for all state employees, judges, and county employees (teachers). Like no longer allowing participation? Or those slated to get it or already receiving it won't and will have some present value of future benefits lumped into some other instrument?
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Fitzy Fitz posted:"What Comey described wasn’t obstruction of justice. Here’s why." Haha they are so hosed
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