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WilliamAnderson posted:
Yes, yes, it would be nice to have a list of any of you who might vote to ally with France. A nice, tidy list.
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Jun 9, 2017 00:45
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I can't help how loyal I am. I remain with the loyalists. 
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TildeATH posted:Yes, yes, it would be nice to have a list of any of you who might vote to ally with France. Well who else are we going to ally with, the Catholics? Oh wait...
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WilliamAnderson posted:Also, to his esteemed majesty the Sultan, is it possible for there to be a special vote for which side of the League Wars we should join or will that have to be part of legislation? If a faction wants to join a side in the League Wars, then it'd just be submitted as a policy.
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AJ_Impy posted:
On this at least we can agree, the Ulama have my support. (Also it will take a few years for our manpower to grow back)
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 Traitors, heretics, and sinners everywhere! i go on pilgrimage for a session and this is what happens? shameful. Only the Ulama can bring back the mandate of god we have clearly lost.
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We shouldn't join the christian wars at all. What would we be gaining for it that we can't gain declaring a war ourselves? Let them destroy each other. We can prey on the weaker side while they do that.
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The odd dervish is fine, but to have whole cities fall under sway to followers of the idolatrous shia is an embarassment. The imams of Al-Andalus need direction from a strong Ulama, and I will be part of that.
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Question to Hashim, do those provinces that converted to Shia have the recently converted modifier, making them almost impossible to convert. Cause if so, that would suck.
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 I want to spread to the Western lands, but now we are threatened. We are holy warriors surrounded by enemies. I must remain with the Taifas.
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I am joining the New Taifas so that our conquest of Iberia can be finalized and so then we can focus on internal matters.
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gently caress, we're so close to finishing up claiming the rest of Iberia. The last sultan made a right mess of things right at the end, we just need that little bit more. I'm torn, we need the stability, which makes me think Merchants, but I'm thinking that either the Taifas or the Loyalists will finally let us reach our goal of total peninsular control.
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catlord posted:gently caress, we're so close to finishing up claiming the rest of Iberia. The last sultan made a right mess of things right at the end, we just need that little bit more. I'm torn, we need the stability, which makes me think Merchants, but I'm thinking that either the Taifas or the Loyalists will finally let us reach our goal of total peninsular control. I feel like at this juncture making that last grab could cost us everything. The boat is drat near coming apart. I feel you though. We're so close 
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Frionnel posted:We really should pick Humanist as our next idea group. We really should with this situation we've got. And that's why the Merchants need to win.
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The tally, shout if I missed something: - 8, Lord Cyrahzax, Dick Trauma, Lynneth, Luhood, Frionnel, Mr_Autoshades, Flavius Belisarius, Mr.Morgenstern. - 13, ThatBasqueGuy, MuteAllison, Hitlers Gay Secret, Snipe, Grizzwold, tunapirate, Slaan, Sinner Sandwich, Velius, AJ_Impy, everydayfalls, Agean90, Chatrapati. - 15, GunnerJ, Soup du Jour, HiHo ChiRho, Crazycryodude, Talas, Ikasuhito, Captain Oblivious, paragon1, Mikl, Yvonmukluk, Technowolf, Aeromancia, Rubix Squid, Invader Zym, WilliamAnderson. - 8, RZApublican, mcclay, TildeATH, sheep-dodger, Mountaineer, Affi, Archaeology Hat, Alikchi.
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I stand with the sultan, long may he reign. (Man if two separate ellipses don't put the fear of Allah into you then you deserve what you're about to get)
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Staying with the Taifas I like the new kid. Seems smarter than who we thought we were up for.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I feel like at this juncture making that last grab could cost us everything. The boat is drat near coming apart. You're right. I join the Merchants. Stability, gold and brotherhood!
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We could at least grab Aragon. It's not allied to us or France, and two more provinces won't break our country.
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 It is clear that our sectarian divides render Andalusia ungovernable; the slightest defeat or upset causes the ship of state to come apart at the seams. We must of course always hold the light of Allah first in our hearts, but if we lead the poor deluded masses of the world with the same grace and mercy the Greatest shows us, then we will all be the better for it. Also, gold is pretty freaking amazing. I, Qu'rum, side with the League of Merchants.
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Quorum posted:
I have changed my mind. Internal matters must come first, then we can finish our conquest of Iberia. I stand with the League of Merchants. OOC: Which faction can ask to put forth Humanism? Mr.Morgenstern fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Guys, there can still some low level of colonization with the Ulama, but there will be no conversation of our restless Christian (and now also Shia) provinces without the Ulama. We get colonists spawned for free no matter what. We don't get missionaries unless the Ulama is in control. Yes, we can have coalition policies for conversation, but they are far less effective. Please, let's do the long-term thing for once instead of all these short-term schemes for immediate profit.
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An alternative way to get out of this religious crisis is to pick Humanism as our next idea group, then proceed to tolerate THE poo poo out of everyone. It just depends on what you prefer for us. We're only hosed if we do neither. The question is when we're going to be eligible to pick another idea group. Mr.Morgenstern posted:OOC: Which faction can ask to put forth Humanism? Pretty sure Hashim said it's the Merchants. And with that said, since the Taifas is going down and the other thing i like is colonization, i'm going to change my mind and: Join the merchants Frionnel fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Frionnel posted:An alternative way to get out of this religious crisis is to pick Humanism as our next idea group, then proceed to tolerate THE poo poo out of everyone. It just depends on what you prefer for us. We're only hosed if we do neither. This is still a less optimal choice especially for the games after EU4 though. It's a bandaid for a situation that requires surgery.
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Snipee posted:This is still a less optimal choice especially for the games after EU4 though. It's a bandaid for a situation that requires surgery. Truly, a less optimal choice in this LP???? Did you miss the CK2 segment or what 
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Sure, if we're speaking purely on game terms, converting is better in EU4. But we're doing less playing optimally and more fluff. I mean, in EU4 your provinces don't suddenly go Shia if you stop converting christians either. And for Vicky 2 and HoI4, anything could happen. Depends on what Hashim does with the scenario, and we still have another 250 years of EU4. Frionnel fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Yeah, really we should be officially tolerating the hell out of cultures, because it's not like religion matters come 1836. All the more reason for the League to be in charge!
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Captain Oblivious posted:Truly, a less optimal choice in this LP???? Good point. I'll shut up and continue celebrating the U.K. snap election results now.
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I just want us to border a Hindu so we can become Sikhs.
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Sultans come and go, and Al Andalus prevails regardless of their quality. We merchants must do our part to ensure it continues to do so.
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Snipee posted:Please, let's do the long-term thing for once instead of all these short-term schemes for immediate profit. Agreed, which is why everyone should Join The Merchants because the New World is the future.
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I dunno, as much as I want to make the reasonable choice I've been playing a raving, warmongering madman all this time. I can't really stop now with a good conscience.
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Staying with the Ulama. I'm pretty sure Al-Andalus is in dire need of Allah's guiding hand right now.
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Luhood posted:I dunno, as much as I want to make the reasonable choice I've been playing a raving, warmongering madman all this time. I can't really stop now with a good conscience. And yet you didn't support my war against Morocco! Not raving warmongering madman enough if you ask me 
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Frionnel posted:And yet you didn't support my war against Morocco! Not raving warmongering madman enough if you ask me I'm a raving, warmongering madman against the RIGHT people! Or do you think the Rhine sounds like a reasonable border of al-Andalus?
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