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I've gone back to watching Person of Interest, because I was already a season and a half in and I need a show I can watch that I'm not invested in... It still feels really bad. It reminds me of like... John Doe. But as I've said before, the biggest problem is Jim Caveziel being less interesting than a cardboard standup. It doesn't matter if it's part of the oremis, or if there's a story reason why he's so detached... It's not interesting to watch. It is nice that he's able to perform technically impressive fifht choreography. But basically Finch and the two detective side characters are much more interesting than any of the sexy main characters.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 07:46 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 04:03 |
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I just skip past scenes without Amy Acker, the dog, or Sarah Shahi.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 08:02 |
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The dog is like, the 4th best character. Honestly, being on s2e16 right now, I feel like if this had been the first season, the show would already be a lot stronger. Like I the episodicnolots.of thsinshow are so by the boom.I could write a script to generate plots for this show. The only value is in the glacially-paced character development and humor, which is insanely hit or miss. The action is pretty good on a technical level, but it's hard to be invested in it because it's such a formulaic part of rote plot. Like "Oh, John finds himself in a bar with the missunderstood victim and 3 thugs bent on teaching them a lesson! I wonder what will happen!" Will John escape before the cops show up? I'm betting the man in the suit is already there! If he got delayed, try to stall them! I wonder if some will get shot in the leg... Will there be a deadpan one liner? Like the worst thing that happens to John is that someone throws a drink in his face, and then after he smashes a beer stein on their head, he looks as the the missunderstood victim and says "I guess drinks were on me" Edit: someone just called a shotgun a scatter-gun in all earnestness in 2012. Edit2: Like, this is probably the best episode of the show so far, and it primarily features characters that were introduced this episode and John is barely in it. Snak fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jun 8, 2017 |
# ? Jun 8, 2017 08:16 |
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gently caress yes. Cinemax's martial arts drama from the Banshee guys is going to series. http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/06/warrior-19th-century-crime-drama.html (It's set in America, before anyone gets any "Marco Polo but without the white people" vibes.) Hoon Lee better be in this.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 10:32 |
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Snak posted:Like I the episodicnolots.of thsinshow are so by the boom. Did you have a stroke there? Are you okay?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 11:15 |
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It's been a long time comin'
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 11:25 |
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Couch Chat: Episodicnolots.of thsinshow are so by the boom.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 11:56 |
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Lurdiak posted:I wouldn't really recommend watching a standalone episode out of order, though. The show does a very good job of building the characterization of the cast throughout the series, and some of the best moments of the standalone episodes rely on their character traits.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 12:24 |
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The crime of bad opinions on Person of Interest has killed Snak. Rest In Peace
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 13:26 |
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Life can come at you fast.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 13:43 |
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Regy Rusty posted:The crime of bad opinions on Person of Interest has killed Snak. Rest In Peace I knew he was doomed when he said Bear was only the 4th best character.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:03 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I just skip past scenes without Amy Acker, the dog, or Sarah Shahi. That's not how you watch Cowboy Bebop dammit. wait
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:30 |
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McSpanky posted:That's not how you watch Cowboy Bebop dammit. Speaking of which, Acker would make a drat good Faye Valentine if you write her as older than she is in the cartoon.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 16:15 |
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I clearly said that the episodic plots of this show are so by the book.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 17:41 |
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"clearly"
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 17:53 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I like the British version of Wallander. Kenneth Branagh plays a depressed swedish detective and life shits on him in every single episode. It's like Sherlock in how each season is 3x90 minute movies. Tom Hiddleston plays a detective in the first season. It is integral for a detective serial that the main character has some shtick. Sometimes the guy's a scatterbrain, sometimes they're a jerk, sometimes they're corrupt and solving the crime just happens to align with what gets him kickbacks. Wallander's thing is that he CARES. SO. MUCH. Expect lots of tortured staring out at the moors or whatever the Swedish equivalent is.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 18:03 |
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What's Midsomer Murder's gimmick?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 18:11 |
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MiddleOne posted:What's Midsomer Murder's gimmick? Sheer body count. It's not so much a whodunnit as a who's left.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 18:15 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I just skip past scenes without Amy Acker, the dog, or Sarah Shahi. I skipped past any scenes with Amy Acker. She was just awful. muscles like this! posted:Fox has decided that they don't want to wait until Corey Hawkins is done doing whatever and has canceled 24: Legacy. Although they have said they're interested in continuing to do 24, just now as an anthology. I honestly felt that's what they should have done with 24 in the first place. Get a name actor to be the lead each season.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 19:34 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:gently caress yes. Cinemax's martial arts drama from the Banshee guys is going to series. I hope he just shows up as Job. No explanation given.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 19:39 |
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Davros1 posted:I skipped past any scenes with Amy Acker. She was just awful. Yeah, I actually misread that post as saying I should skip all scenes with Amy Acker or the dog. Hence my defense of the dog. My ranking of the characters, from best to worse, is as follows Finch Fusco Carter Dog Tao Reese Edit: But for real, the second season has been a lot better.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 19:46 |
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Popping back in to say that the new Twin Peaks is amazing and the glass box scene is one of the scariest things I've ever seen on television Also, am I the only one not feeling the new season of Fargo compared to the last two seasons? There's still a lot of good stuff but it feels too self-indulgent and the story isn't compelling enough to make the constant digressions worth it
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 20:47 |
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You're definitely not alone, but I like it a lot
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 20:49 |
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I'm two eps behind on Fargo and I honestly just give zero fucks at all about continuing at this point
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:05 |
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Escobarbarian posted:I'm two eps behind on Fargo and I honestly just give zero fucks at all about continuing at this point Yeah same. The villain is lame, and the main characters are milquetoast in the bad way, not the good regular way that Fargo characters are. This season has been a huge letdown, I don't think I made it past episode 4.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:13 |
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Escobarbarian posted:I'm two eps behind on Fargo and I honestly just give zero fucks at all about continuing at this point I would strongly reconsider.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:15 |
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It's starting to get really good now but I can't help but feel like all the quirky stylistic choices are just being used to wallpaper over a bland story/cast instead of enhance an already interesting set of characters like season 2 did. The worst offender was that episode in LA, where they spent a full hour on flashbacks and animated sequences to tell a story that goes nowhere and has nothing to do with the rest of the plot. The more I think about this season, the more disappointed I am. The first half was overly quirky aimless bullshit that goes nowhere and now the second half just seems like a lesser retread of plots the show has already done before. HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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MiddleOne posted:I would strongly reconsider. From what I understand the one great scene in the latest ep has nothing to do with the actual plot of the series or anything so eh. Also, Thewlis' character is just godawful. Why is 2017 trying to ruin David Thewlis?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:51 |
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HorseRenoir posted:It's starting to get really good now but I can't help but feel like all the quirky stylistic choices are just being used to wallpaper over a bland story/cast instead of enhance an already interesting set of characters like season 2 did. The worst offender was that episode in LA, where they spent a full hour on flashbacks and animated sequences to tell a story that goes nowhere and has nothing to do with the rest of the plot. I liked that episode, but I also enjoy red herring tangents. Mac showing up as the beat cop was also funny.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:53 |
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Bruceski posted:It is integral for a detective serial that the main character has some shtick. Sometimes the guy's a scatterbrain, sometimes they're a jerk, sometimes they're corrupt and solving the crime just happens to align with what gets him kickbacks. Wallander's thing is that he CARES. SO. MUCH. Expect lots of tortured staring out at the moors or whatever the Swedish equivalent is. What show is this? Sounds awesome.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:55 |
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Shageletic posted:What show is this? Sounds awesome. Uh... something I saw on PBS Mystery years ago, set in Italy I think. Stuck in my head as an example because it was at the same time I saw Wallander. Let me do some digging, see if I can turn up a name. EDIT: well, that was easier than I thought it would be. It's called Zen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(TV_series) From what I remember there's a kind of detachment to the show that didn't really mesh with me so I may be mis-remembering/representing it. It's a casual corruption, not something gritty out of The Wire. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jun 8, 2017 |
# ? Jun 8, 2017 21:58 |
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I swear, sometimes I'll search for hours trying to find something (I think is) obvious, and sometimes my initial word salad vomit into Google returns "I know EXACTLY what you're talking about."
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Bruceski posted:I swear, sometimes I'll search for hours trying to find something (I think is) obvious, and sometimes my initial word salad vomit into Google returns "I know EXACTLY what you're talking about."
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 22:12 |
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Metropolis posted:What are the good murder mystery/slow burn crime drama shows other than TD Season 1? I'm gonna check out Harper's Island. I also liked The Shadow Line and some other ones I forget. I was one of the many people who ended up hating The Killing. Luther is really good. I'm also planning on watching The Fall since I've heard good things about it. e: Just googling, there's so many it blows my mind, I haven't seen any of these so maybe other goons can get comment on them. But here's a list of stuff I've seen mentioned elsewhere... Prime Suspect Ripper Street Whitechapel Broadchurch Inspector Morse Inspector Lewis Poirot Grantchester Foyle's War Inspector George Gently Waking the Dead Wire in the Blood Murdoch Mysteries Jack Taylor Taggart Some of these are older than others, apparently Taggart has been on for 27 freaking seasons. I think we need a British TV thread.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 22:43 |
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Fargo S3 has definitely been a clear step down from the first two seasons, which I mostly attribute to the villains being really lame and the standard competent cop character being boring and irrelevant to the point of not even needing to be in the show. Nikki has been the lone bright spot, I like that character a lot.
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-Blackadder- posted:Some of these are older than others, apparently Taggart has been on for 27 freaking seasons. I think we need a British TV thread. There is one already. The ITV has a new adaptation of Maigret starring Rowan Atkinson which I enjoy. It does two episodes a year, but they're an hour and a half each. (There have been previous adaptations of Maigret, of course, including one from the 1960s and one from the early 90s starring Michael Gambon which is quite well-regarded.)
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-Blackadder- posted:Luther is really good. I'm also planning on watching The Fall since I've heard good things about it. Add Longmire to that list.
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Nate RFB posted:Fargo S3 has definitely been a clear step down from the first two seasons, which I mostly attribute to the villains being really lame and the standard competent cop character being boring and irrelevant to the point of not even needing to be in the show. Nikki has been the lone bright spot, I like that character a lot. I'll watch Carrie Coon read the dictionary so I don't quite have the same opinion as you, but yeah, this season has been disappointing. I still really like it, but it's not the giddiness that I felt with the last two seasons. That last episode though....
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Wheat Loaf posted:There is one already. How did I not know this existed
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Add Longmire to that list. Longmire is fuckin awesome.
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