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Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Trump won because Clinton neglected the rust belt.

Frankly, she hosed up so bad that Webb would've won because he would've just ran a boilerplate campaign.

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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Dr. Carwash posted:

If Bernie had won the primary, he wouldn't have been at a disadvantage anymore going into the general.

In other words, Bernie would have won.

So if Bernie had won, then Bernie would have won.


I agree.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

Haven't really followed the whole UK thing. Is Theresa May bad? What about James Corbyn? Which one of them hates immigrants?

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Dr. Carwash posted:

yeah a jew socialist from vermont that nobody had heard of until the primary barely lost to her. I don't think you "get" how these things work. Remember, Obama barely eked out a win against hillary, and he was a god tier campaigner. Hillary effectively started 2/3 laps ahead of Bernie and still almost managed to gently caress it up.

If Bernie had won the primary, he wouldn't have been at a disadvantage anymore going into the general.

In other words, Bernie would have won.

lol you actually believe that, Bernie even if he started at the same time would never pull the numbers in the primary that clinton or Obama did. He was too fringe and weird and didn't appeal to the party who is entirely made of crazy people, the republicans. Even if some how Bernie beat Clinton he would have gotten destroyed by Trump in the rust belt by not talking poo poo about immigrants and suggesting that unions are good, both of which are political poison now in the U.S thanks to the republicans. Bernie. Would. Never. Win.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
:bravo:

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Rubellavator posted:

Haven't really followed the whole UK thing. Is Theresa May bad? What about James Corbyn? Which one of them hates immigrants?

May hates immigrants and Corbyn hates the jews

Dr. Carwash
Sep 16, 2006

Senpai...

Mordor She Wrote posted:

lol you actually believe that, Bernie even if he started at the same time would never pull the numbers in the primary that clinton or Obama did.


You actually think Bernie wouldn't pull the numbers of clinton? You're dumb af mate.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Accretionist posted:

Trump won because Clinton neglected the rust belt.

Frankly, she hosed up so bad that Webb would've won because he would've just ran a boilerplate campaign.

Also the platform of Make Grenading Bunkers Great Again would have won many states.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Bernie would have won....




























































... bigly!

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


trump won because dems saw fit to run a uniquely vulnerable and universally despised candidate

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Dr. Carwash posted:

You actually think Bernie wouldn't pull the numbers of clinton? You're dumb af mate.

Better union benefits would never resonate with union members

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Mordor isnt dumb, they are brilliant performing artists, and you guys need to sit back and appreciate his nuanced depiction of the most wrong person on earth. If we get lucky, he might do his racist bit-- that one always gets me laughing!

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Webb would've won.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Dr. Carwash posted:

You actually think Bernie wouldn't pull the numbers of clinton? You're dumb af mate.

Even in the rust belt states where Bernie won, he barely beat Clinton, Michigan was a single point difference.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

Better union benefits would never resonate with union members

Lol you don't know union people, union people desperately want to go full libertarian gently caress you got mine until it effects them personally, and even then they'll vote anti union out of spite, tell me if better union benefits would resonate well and seal the deal for Bernie, explain why Wisconsin and and Ohio went so hard anti union recently?

Or you know, voted for Trump, and the republicans, the party that kills unions.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

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Mordor She Wrote posted:

Even in the rust belt states where Bernie won, he barely beat Clinton, Michigan was a single point difference.

Bernie would have won.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Mordor She Wrote posted:

Lol you don't know union people, union people desperately want to go full libertarian gently caress you got mine until it effects them personally, and even then they'll vote anti union out of spite, tell me if better union benefits would resonate well and seal the deal for Bernie, explain why Wisconsin and and Ohio went so hard anti union recently?

just lol.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Hahaha! If it's one things people who unite want it's to be individual as possible! poo poo let me get an autograph Mr She Wrote its gonna be worth something some day!

Dr. Carwash
Sep 16, 2006

Senpai...

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Even in the rust belt states where Bernie won, he barely beat Clinton, Michigan was a single point difference.

Yes, and Obama barely won multiple states against hillary as well. If Bernie had the resources and name recognition that hillary had during the primary, he wins easily. Going into the general, he would have those things. He would then beat trump. How do you not get this??

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

FisheyStix posted:

Hahaha! If it's one things people who unite want it's to be individual as possible! poo poo let me get an autograph Mr She Wrote its gonna be worth something some day!

Everyone I know in a union hates the union and everything about it, they just refuse to leave because their ideology ends when it hits their pocket book, but they'll vote on a state and national level to destroy the union. Again, see Wisconsin.

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Mordor She Wrote posted:

the party who is entirely made of crazy people, the republicans

lol you loving idiot, enjoy being the reason Dems lost

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Dr. Carwash posted:

Yes, and Obama barely won multiple states against hillary as well. If Bernie had the resources and name recognition that hillary had during the primary, he wins easily. Going into the general, he would have those things. He would then beat trump. How do you not get this??

"If we went back in time and things were completely different, the outcome might be different"

Bernie wouldn't have lasted in the public eye as long as Clinton, he would have been buried ages ago.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

SaltyJesus posted:

lol you loving idiot, enjoy being the reason Dems lost

Show me one sane republican, I'll wait.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Show me one sane republican, I'll wait.

Hillary Clinton.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Chomp8645 posted:

Hillary Clinton.

He said 'sane'

Dr. Carwash
Sep 16, 2006

Senpai...

Mordor She Wrote posted:

"If we went back in time and things were completely different, the outcome might be different"

Bernie wouldn't have lasted in the public eye as long as Clinton, he would have been buried ages ago.

Yeah the most likable candidate in the entire election would have been "buried" by the well-oiled political machine that was the trump campaign. Just lol.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


everyone i know in the thing i'm saying is bad says that thing is bad and my uncle works at nintendo

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Maya Fey posted:

everyone i know in the thing i'm saying is bad says that thing is bad and my uncle works at nintendo

Again, explain why a union state like Wisconsin, would vote very hard and specifically anti union, multiple times in a row

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Again, explain why a union state like Wisconsin, would vote very hard and specifically anti union, multiple times in a row

Do you or someone in your household belong to a labor union?Yes    38% 62%

38% voted for walker of those who were or lived with someone who was on a union

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

Do you or someone in your household belong to a labor union?Yes    38% 62%

38% voted for walker of those who were or lived with someone who was on a union

but yes that 38% would have totally swung a now deeply red state right into Bernie's arms.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Blue Train posted:

Do you or someone in your household belong to a labor union?Yes    38% 62%

38% voted for walker of those who were or lived with someone who was on a union

How dare you invalidate his... Hehe... His life... Pfffttthahaha, experience?! HAAAAHAHAHA


Edit:Woah, those goalposts move so fast, Mordy, are you a superhero??

FisheyStix fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 10, 2017

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

but yes that 38% would have totally swung a now deeply red state right into Bernie's arms.

They would have if they hadnt run Hillary, most hated woman in America

Republican Donald Trump received about 27,000 more votes than Democrat Hillary Clinton. While his performance didn't stray far from Mitt Romney's in 2012, Clinton's fell significantly short of President Barack Obama's.

Turnout was down in most counties throughout the state, but particularly in Milwaukee County, where nearly 60,000 fewer votes were cast this year than in 2012. Clinton earned about 43,000 fewer votes in the Democratic stronghold than Obama did four years ago.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Preliminary exit polls show that turnout dropped in particular among young voters and African-Americans, Burden said.

A historic Hillary voting bloc!

Poz Party Pooper
Feb 16, 2014

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017



im pretty sure they stole this list verbatim from a tweet someone made

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

They would have if they hadnt run Hillary, most hated woman in America

Republican Donald Trump received about 27,000 more votes than Democrat Hillary Clinton. While his performance didn't stray far from Mitt Romney's in 2012, Clinton's fell significantly short of President Barack Obama's.

Turnout was down in most counties throughout the state, but particularly in Milwaukee County, where nearly 60,000 fewer votes were cast this year than in 2012. Clinton earned about 43,000 fewer votes in the Democratic stronghold than Obama did four years ago.

:shrug: it wouldn't matter m8, Trump """"""""courted"""""" unions, and Wisconsinites are terminally stupid.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
I do think that Clinton could have eked out a narrow win in the non-Comey timeline, but that's still kind of embarrassing.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

:shrug: it wouldn't matter m8, Trump """"""""courted"""""" unions, and Wisconsinites are terminally stupid.

Bernie would have done the some thing and not being a sack of lying poo poo about it, hence locking the election down

loving embedding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CoyvR1wYU

gently caress it!

Blue Train fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 10, 2017

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Keep making excuses for why he lost, you need to accept the fact that Trump would have won regardless.

you're not very good at this

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Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

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lmao at the flailing hillbot :supaburn:

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