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Trump won because Clinton neglected the rust belt. Frankly, she hosed up so bad that Webb would've won because he would've just ran a boilerplate campaign.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:36 |
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Dr. Carwash posted:If Bernie had won the primary, he wouldn't have been at a disadvantage anymore going into the general. So if Bernie had won, then Bernie would have won. I agree.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:36 |
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Haven't really followed the whole UK thing. Is Theresa May bad? What about James Corbyn? Which one of them hates immigrants?
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:37 |
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Dr. Carwash posted:yeah a jew socialist from vermont that nobody had heard of until the primary barely lost to her. I don't think you "get" how these things work. Remember, Obama barely eked out a win against hillary, and he was a god tier campaigner. Hillary effectively started 2/3 laps ahead of Bernie and still almost managed to gently caress it up. lol you actually believe that, Bernie even if he started at the same time would never pull the numbers in the primary that clinton or Obama did. He was too fringe and weird and didn't appeal to the party who is entirely made of crazy people, the republicans. Even if some how Bernie beat Clinton he would have gotten destroyed by Trump in the rust belt by not talking poo poo about immigrants and suggesting that unions are good, both of which are political poison now in the U.S thanks to the republicans. Bernie. Would. Never. Win.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:39 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:40 |
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Rubellavator posted:Haven't really followed the whole UK thing. Is Theresa May bad? What about James Corbyn? Which one of them hates immigrants? May hates immigrants and Corbyn hates the jews
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:41 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:lol you actually believe that, Bernie even if he started at the same time would never pull the numbers in the primary that clinton or Obama did. You actually think Bernie wouldn't pull the numbers of clinton? You're dumb af mate.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:41 |
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Accretionist posted:Trump won because Clinton neglected the rust belt. Also the platform of Make Grenading Bunkers Great Again would have won many states.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:42 |
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Bernie would have won.... ... bigly!
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:43 |
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trump won because dems saw fit to run a uniquely vulnerable and universally despised candidate
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:44 |
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Dr. Carwash posted:You actually think Bernie wouldn't pull the numbers of clinton? You're dumb af mate. Better union benefits would never resonate with union members
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:44 |
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Mordor isnt dumb, they are brilliant performing artists, and you guys need to sit back and appreciate his nuanced depiction of the most wrong person on earth. If we get lucky, he might do his racist bit-- that one always gets me laughing!
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:44 |
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Webb would've won.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:44 |
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Dr. Carwash posted:You actually think Bernie wouldn't pull the numbers of clinton? You're dumb af mate. Even in the rust belt states where Bernie won, he barely beat Clinton, Michigan was a single point difference.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:45 |
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Blue Train posted:Better union benefits would never resonate with union members Lol you don't know union people, union people desperately want to go full libertarian gently caress you got mine until it effects them personally, and even then they'll vote anti union out of spite, tell me if better union benefits would resonate well and seal the deal for Bernie, explain why Wisconsin and and Ohio went so hard anti union recently? Or you know, voted for Trump, and the republicans, the party that kills unions.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:46 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Even in the rust belt states where Bernie won, he barely beat Clinton, Michigan was a single point difference. Bernie would have won.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:46 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Lol you don't know union people, union people desperately want to go full libertarian gently caress you got mine until it effects them personally, and even then they'll vote anti union out of spite, tell me if better union benefits would resonate well and seal the deal for Bernie, explain why Wisconsin and and Ohio went so hard anti union recently? just lol.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:48 |
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Hahaha! If it's one things people who unite want it's to be individual as possible! poo poo let me get an autograph Mr She Wrote its gonna be worth something some day!
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:52 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Even in the rust belt states where Bernie won, he barely beat Clinton, Michigan was a single point difference. Yes, and Obama barely won multiple states against hillary as well. If Bernie had the resources and name recognition that hillary had during the primary, he wins easily. Going into the general, he would have those things. He would then beat trump. How do you not get this??
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:53 |
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FisheyStix posted:Hahaha! If it's one things people who unite want it's to be individual as possible! poo poo let me get an autograph Mr She Wrote its gonna be worth something some day! Everyone I know in a union hates the union and everything about it, they just refuse to leave because their ideology ends when it hits their pocket book, but they'll vote on a state and national level to destroy the union. Again, see Wisconsin.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:55 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:the party who is entirely made of crazy people, the republicans lol you loving idiot, enjoy being the reason Dems lost
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:56 |
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Dr. Carwash posted:Yes, and Obama barely won multiple states against hillary as well. If Bernie had the resources and name recognition that hillary had during the primary, he wins easily. Going into the general, he would have those things. He would then beat trump. How do you not get this?? "If we went back in time and things were completely different, the outcome might be different" Bernie wouldn't have lasted in the public eye as long as Clinton, he would have been buried ages ago.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:57 |
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SaltyJesus posted:lol you loving idiot, enjoy being the reason Dems lost Show me one sane republican, I'll wait.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:57 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Show me one sane republican, I'll wait. Hillary Clinton.
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:58 |
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Chomp8645 posted:Hillary Clinton. He said 'sane'
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# ? Jun 9, 2017 23:59 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:"If we went back in time and things were completely different, the outcome might be different" Yeah the most likable candidate in the entire election would have been "buried" by the well-oiled political machine that was the trump campaign. Just lol.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:00 |
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everyone i know in the thing i'm saying is bad says that thing is bad and my uncle works at nintendo
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:02 |
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Maya Fey posted:everyone i know in the thing i'm saying is bad says that thing is bad and my uncle works at nintendo Again, explain why a union state like Wisconsin, would vote very hard and specifically anti union, multiple times in a row
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:03 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Again, explain why a union state like Wisconsin, would vote very hard and specifically anti union, multiple times in a row Do you or someone in your household belong to a labor union?Yes 38% 62% 38% voted for walker of those who were or lived with someone who was on a union
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:07 |
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Blue Train posted:Do you or someone in your household belong to a labor union?Yes 38% 62% but yes that 38% would have totally swung a now deeply red state right into Bernie's arms.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:08 |
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Blue Train posted:Do you or someone in your household belong to a labor union?Yes 38% 62% How dare you invalidate his... Hehe... His life... Pfffttthahaha, experience?! HAAAAHAHAHA Edit:Woah, those goalposts move so fast, Mordy, are you a superhero?? FisheyStix fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 10, 2017 |
# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:09 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:but yes that 38% would have totally swung a now deeply red state right into Bernie's arms. They would have if they hadnt run Hillary, most hated woman in America Republican Donald Trump received about 27,000 more votes than Democrat Hillary Clinton. While his performance didn't stray far from Mitt Romney's in 2012, Clinton's fell significantly short of President Barack Obama's. Turnout was down in most counties throughout the state, but particularly in Milwaukee County, where nearly 60,000 fewer votes were cast this year than in 2012. Clinton earned about 43,000 fewer votes in the Democratic stronghold than Obama did four years ago.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:10 |
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Preliminary exit polls show that turnout dropped in particular among young voters and African-Americans, Burden said. A historic Hillary voting bloc!
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:10 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:11 |
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im pretty sure they stole this list verbatim from a tweet someone made
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:12 |
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Blue Train posted:They would have if they hadnt run Hillary, most hated woman in America it wouldn't matter m8, Trump """"""""courted"""""" unions, and Wisconsinites are terminally stupid.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:15 |
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I do think that Clinton could have eked out a narrow win in the non-Comey timeline, but that's still kind of embarrassing.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:16 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:it wouldn't matter m8, Trump """"""""courted"""""" unions, and Wisconsinites are terminally stupid. Bernie would have done the some thing and not being a sack of lying poo poo about it, hence locking the election down loving embedding! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CoyvR1wYU gently caress it! Blue Train fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 10, 2017 |
# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:17 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Keep making excuses for why he lost, you need to accept the fact that Trump would have won regardless. you're not very good at this
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 00:21 |
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lmao at the flailing hillbot
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