Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Furthermore,

Parnes revealed that Robby Mook, the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton’s failed 2016 presidential bid, relied on analytics instead of the on-the-ground conditions during the campaign. That according to Parnes was why that campaign decided against polling in Michigan and Wisconsin, two losses by which the Clinton campaign was blindsided.

Hillary was just as loving dumb and narcissistic as trump

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


trump the union guy

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Only get this: even loving dumber!!!!

:eyepoop:

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!
sidenote anybody who says bernie couldn't get stuff done is talking out of their retarded hillbot rear end


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmPsX2tNV1Y

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
I mean, whatever mental gymnastics help you live through the Trump administration, but Bernie wouldn't have won.

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!
:siren: you're the one doing mental gymnastics :siren:

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


the most popular politician in the US could never have beaten the most unpopular presidential candidate in the US

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Homestar Runner posted:

:siren: you're the one doing mental gymnastics :siren:

prove it. cuz my assertion is that a Trump victory was inevitable

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

Bernie would never won, america hates paying for taxes that might actually help others that is not part of the military.

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!
oh good the other retard's here

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Bholder posted:

Bernie would never won, america hates paying for taxes that might actually help others that is not part of the military.

^

In a debate with Trump, the first mention of universal healthcare would have doomed Bernie, and Trump would have rode a wave of anti socialist sentiment to a more secure victory.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Maybe you should watch the video I posted where trump-voting coal miners are cheering for single payer

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Aw get outta here, Bholder. Everyone knows you're just a second rate Mordy. Work on your technique and panache and get back to us when you're ready to really perform.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

In a town hall in rural McDowell County, West Virginia, on Sunday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) told a crowd filled with supporters of President Donald Trump that "healthcare is a right"—and was met with cheers.

The town hall was broadcast Monday on MSNBC's "All In With Chris Hayes," and featured discussion on a range of topics: jobs, infrastructure, healthcare, and the opioid crisis, among others.

The warm reception to Sanders' views—that climate change is real, that universal healthcare is a right, and that free higher education is necessary, among others—demonstrated that residents of this county that voted 75 percent for Trump support far more progressive policies than those touted by the president.

"We are the only major country on earth that doesn't guarantee healthcare as a right," Sanders told a coal miner who voted for Trump. "Do you think we should join other countries in guaranteeing healthcare as a right?"

"Yes," the Trump supporter said, and the crowd cheered.

Earlier in that exchange, Sanders also appeared to find common ground on a topic widely seen as unpopular in coal country: climate change. Sanders explained that he believed in climate change—unlike the current administration—but he didn't hold individual coal miners responsible for it, recalling that coal heated his "rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn" when he was a child. "You guys are my heroes," he said.

The senator then called for job creation in infrastructure and renewable energy, to put former coal miners back to work in well-paying jobs that will help mitigate the climate crisis. "We are the richest country in the world," Sanders said. "We can do this." The crowd applauded.

Sanders also advocated for retired miners—many of whom suffer from black lung disease and other ailments from a lifetime of mining coal—to receive the pensions and healthcare benefits currently tied up in Congress. He specifically called out Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who represents voters in coal country, for advocating for coal company executives over their workers.

One audience member—another retired miner—agreed with Sanders' assessment, telling the senator that "I think it's ironic that a senator from the Northeast takes care of my benefits better than someone like Mitch McConnell."

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

Maybe you should watch the video I posted where trump-voting coal miners are cheering for single payer

Til Trump tells them they'll pay more taxes, they'll heel turn in a second.

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!
universal healthcare consistently polls at 60% and above


lmao u goddamn retard

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Til Trump tells them they'll pay more taxes, they'll heel turn in a second.

A fairly placid CNN town hall featuring Bernie Sanders grew heated when a Trump voter who identified himself as a businessman complained about the regulatory atmosphere under President Barack Obama — only to have the Vermont Senator lecture him on greed.

Host Chris Cuomo introduced the man, identified as Jim Jacobs from Pennsylvania, who immediately complained about Obama.

“My question is this. I’m a business owner and we keep getting kicked in the teeth by this administration,” Jacobs asserted. “It’s regulation after regulation and tax after tax. What Donald Trump does understand is the complexities of business and to reward the person who takes the risk. My question is: this country was founded on entrepreneurship. Why is this administration so against the business owner? Please tell me.”

“I don’t think this administration, the Obama Administration you’re referring to, is so against the business owner,” Sanders replied.

“Oh, really?” a stunned Jacobs said.

“Yeah, Obama did raise —  I don’t know your income, and I’m not concerned about your income,” Sanders shot back.

“That matters,” a clearly aggravated Jacobs replied, only to have Sanders cut him off.

‘Excuse me,” Sanders lectured. “He raised taxes on the top 1 percent or 2 percent, and I would have gone further. 5 percent of all new income generated today goes to the top 1 percent, so you and I may have a difference. But yeah, I do believe that billionaires and multi-millionaires should be paying more in taxes. ”

“I’m business owner, I’m not a multi-billionaire, I’m not a millionaire,” Jacobs parried. “You haven’t lived until you’ve put a payroll on your credit card. This is the reality of the backbone of this country.”

“Well, the backbone of this country, I think we should support entrepreneurship,” Sander fired back. “We should support small business. But I am not supportive of large multi-national corporations that make millions and don’t pay a nickel in taxes, nor am I supportive of those corporations who throw American workers out on the street and move to China or Mexico.”

Bernie is is much smarter than Hillary and more convincing of his policies

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Maya Fey posted:

the most popular politician in the US could never have beaten the most unpopular presidential candidate in the US

An opinion held by actual humens on this forem!!!

pushpins
Sep 11, 2006


Title text (optional; no images are allowed, only text)

Blue Train posted:


“My question is this. I’m a business owner and we keep getting kicked in the teeth by this administration,” Jacobs asserted. “It’s regulation after regulation...

Regulations he is complaining about
1. Minimum wage
2. Sexual harassment protections
3. Can't say N-word (but black people can!?)

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

pushpins posted:

Regulations he is complaining about
1. Minimum wage
2. Sexual harassment protections
3. Can't say N-word (but black people can!?)

Likely: small business owners are universally poo poo

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Homestar Runner posted:

universal healthcare consistently polls at 60% and above


lmao u goddamn retard

It'll never happen

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Blue Train posted:

Likely: small business owners are universally poo poo

They are the exact same as large business owners but even more petty.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


universal healthcare is just impossible. no country has ever achieved it. america is already great

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Maya Fey posted:

universal healthcare is just impossible. no country has ever achieved it. america is already great

America is too stupid and conservative for universal healthcare to ever happen, and even if it did, chances are it would be repealed the next administration.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
"Bernie got elected! And passed universal healthcare!"

*next election

"Ted Cruz wins overwhelmingly on his Liberty for Healthcare platform"

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

America is too stupid and conservative for universal healthcare to ever happen, and even if it did, chances are it would be repealed the next administration.

Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't fed to you by Democratic propaganda

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't fed to you by Democratic propaganda

Tell me how many republicans love universal healthcare and unions :smug:

And why they would still be republicans at that point.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
The healthcare industry would never permit it.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
just lol that the two idiots in here arguing against Bernie have both eaten probates for racism in the last few weeks

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


reminder that one of the liberal arguments for not running sanders was that jews cant be president

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
Bernie did win. What are you guys talking about? Do you live in the shadow timeline where Hillary "slave owner" Clinton of all people got the nomination and lost to DONALD TRUMP of all people? Lmao just lmao

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Could there be a caustic vein of racism embedded in neoliberal ideology?

New studies find: "Yes, obviously"

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Maya Fey posted:

reminder that one of the liberal arguments for not running sanders was that jews cant be president

That ones in the Bible, I think.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

FisheyStix posted:

Could there be a caustic vein of racism embedded in neoliberal ideology?

New studies find: "Yes, obviously"

-bombs brown people
-desires moving the means of production to countries where other brown and yellow people work for reduced wages

checks out

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


FisheyStix posted:

Could there be a caustic vein of racism embedded in neoliberal ideology?

New studies find: "Yes, obviously"

the first clue was when the establishment candidate mentioned enjoying prison slave labor in passing

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
Nice back peddle to keep from acknowledging Sanders' platforms would never be accepted by America.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Mordor She Wrote posted:

Nice back peddle to keep from acknowledging Sanders' platforms would never be accepted by America.

Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in america.

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Blue Train posted:

Furthermore,

Parnes revealed that Robby Mook, the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton’s failed 2016 presidential bid, relied on analytics instead of the on-the-ground conditions during the campaign. That according to Parnes was why that campaign decided against polling in Michigan and Wisconsin, two losses by which the Clinton campaign was blindsided.

Hillary was just as loving dumb and narcissistic as trump

Reminder that campaign personnel in Iowa realized the state was a loss caused and were sending their staff to help in Michigan before being ordered to return around because of "the data".

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Nice back peddle to keep from acknowledging Sanders' platforms would never be accepted by America.

Allow me to retort.

Hit the ? Under Blue Train's av

  • Locked thread