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DrunkPanda posted:Am I the only one who really hates Saul? I liked him a lot in Breaking Bad, but it was more laughing at him than anything else. But in this show, I just hate him. Part of it is he's a scam artist and I hate those people. The other part is that he actually thinks he's the good guy and that other people are treating him unfairly, whenever he gets any sort of negative consequences for his actions (like committing multiple felonies to steal a client from his brother). Saul is more than just a scam artist. He is an idea, a world-historical hero, light itself.
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How do you know he wins? Where's Kim in Breaking Bad?
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Jun 10, 2017 05:02
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Everyone knows that KENWINS
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Jun 10, 2017 05:15
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I really like Saul because he makes me feel like he's doing the right thing, and kind of reminds me of Robin Hood, and we need more Robin Hood (not tortured) types on TV.
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Jun 10, 2017 05:18
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Saul owns and I hope he eventually finds happiness post-Gene
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Jun 10, 2017 05:50
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Idk if I got locked in the trash area overnight at Cinnabon I wouldn't be sitting there thinking "I'm winning bitches!"
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Normy posted:How do you know he wins? Where's Kim in Breaking Bad? She's at home raising their children, where do you think she is?
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Jun 10, 2017 06:24
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DrunkPanda posted:She's at home raising their children, where do you think she is? Little Jimmy Jr. and Saulette.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:45
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I don't like Saul here either for the exact same reasons. Plus he's a gently caress up.
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Jun 10, 2017 07:30
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Guys, I don't think we're supposed to be looking up to Saul. We're just supposed to be seeing what lead to him becoming a drug empire's consigliere, and to understand why he chose those actions. We are supposed tobe looking up to Mike though. Mike's a good guy.
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Jun 10, 2017 07:34
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I dunno, working a Cinnabon in Nebraska sounds like pretty much a "win" in my book. Considering the alternative is being buried in the New Mexican desert.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Guys, I don't think we're supposed to be looking up to Saul. We're just supposed to be seeing what lead to him becoming a drug empire's consigliere, and to understand why he chose those actions. We are supposed tobe looking up to Mike though. Mike's a good guy. Mike's a drug cartel enforcer and a murderer. e: Not missing the joke, just stating it for the record.
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Jun 10, 2017 08:10
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TV shows aren't real and it's okay to enjoy a character that does things you find detestable in real life. It's like watching a Friday the 13th movie and saying 'I just can't stand Jason, he keeps murdering people'
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DrunkPanda posted:Am I the only one who really hates Saul? I liked him a lot in Breaking Bad, but it was more laughing at him than anything else. But in this show, I just hate him. Part of it is he's a scam artist and I hate those people. The other part is that he actually thinks he's the good guy and that other people are treating him unfairly, whenever he gets any sort of negative consequences for his actions (like committing multiple felonies to steal a client from his brother). His brother's an rear end in a top hat and deserved to get a client stolen.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:20
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Last Chance posted:I dunno, working a Cinnabon in Nebraska sounds like pretty much a "win" in my book. Considering the alternative is being buried in the New Mexican desert. Yeah how many people do you think he assisted/gave advice on/or was complicit in their murder? He still came out ahead.
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DrunkPanda posted:Am I the only one who really hates Saul? I liked him a lot in Breaking Bad, but it was more laughing at him than anything else. But in this show, I just hate him. Part of it is he's a scam artist and I hate those people. The other part is that he actually thinks he's the good guy and that other people are treating him unfairly, whenever he gets any sort of negative consequences for his actions (like committing multiple felonies to steal a client from his brother). In some way it's a shame that this is a prequel, because first season Jimmy is a genuinely good person, but everything he does is viewed through the lens we remember him in Breaking Bad (and the flashbacks to his past don't help). Even though he suspects that his brother's disease was fake, he goes to great lengths to help him, he worked hard to get his degree and pass the bar exam so he could have a honest life, entered the non-prestigious field of writing wills, and fought a company that was taking advantage of old people. But if you see him as "Saul", it's easy to reinterpret those things in a different light: He was trying to make his rich brother depend on him for everything, he got a sham degree just so he could jump on the McGill brand, he became the used car salesman equivalent of elder law, and the only reason he pursued the Sandpiper case was to further his career.
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Sagebrush posted:I assume it's just a legal requirement whenever the person dies and they haven't been actively monitored in a hospital. It was obvious that he was going to die, and there was a nurse there at the time who verified his death and recorded the time. Still had to have the medical examiner do whatever they did and sign off; I remember them saying that it was even more important because he wanted to be cremated, so there couldn't be any question later since there would be no body to disinter and examine for signs of foul play. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4724155/The-Killing-Fields-of-Harold-Shipman.html Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:TV shows aren't real and it's okay to enjoy a character that does things you find detestable in real life. It's like watching a Friday the 13th movie and saying 'I just can't stand Jason, he keeps murdering people' Jason has a lot of mother issues to work through. He needs to 
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Jun 10, 2017 13:18
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I wonder if Chuck has the spite to throw the Sandpiper case in order to keep Jimmy from getting his finder's fee.
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RJWaters2 posted:I wonder if Chuck has the spite to throw the Sandpiper case in order to keep Jimmy from getting his finder's fee. I don't think Chuck could ever purposely do anything that involved being seen as being a poor lawyer. His entire identity is tied up in the idea he's a good lawyer - frankly w/o that no one would care about him at this point
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Jun 10, 2017 15:36
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I'm sorry for the people whose moral compass is so hosed up that they do not like Saul.
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oliwan posted:I'm sorry for the people whose moral compass is so hosed up that they do not like Saul. Saul Did Nothing Wrong
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Jun 10, 2017 17:09
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What would Saul need to do for the thread to turn on him
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Jun 10, 2017 17:12
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cut them off at cinnabon
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Help Im Alive posted:What would Saul need to do for the thread to turn on him Probably if he did something to intentionally hurt Kim.
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Help Im Alive posted:What would Saul need to do for the thread to turn on him Murder Kim.
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Shaddak posted:Murder Kim. Get Skylar as a client, make her show up in every episode
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Help Im Alive posted:What would Saul need to do for the thread to turn on him Pay for someone to be shanked in jail. Luckily, JImmy would never stoop that low.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:35
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If Saul doesn't murder Chuck, I'll turn on him.
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Help Im Alive posted:What would Saul need to do for the thread to turn on him Not be the protagonist of the show.
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cebrail posted:Not be the protagonist of the show. What would he have to do to no longer be the protagonist, mr pedantic
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What I mean is that this is a tv show and he can do evil poo poo and they can still make him look sympathetic. The viewers won't turn on him regardless of what he does.
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cebrail posted:What I mean is that this is a tv show and he can do evil poo poo and they can still make him look sympathetic. The viewers won't turn on him regardless of what he does. yes, we are all actually robots without the ability for critical thought.
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TBeats posted:What would he have to do to no longer be the protagonist, mr pedantic What would a fictional character in a tv show need to do, within the tv show, to no longer be the lead character of the tv show?
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Work Friend Keven posted:What would a fictional character in a tv show need to do, within the tv show, to no longer be the lead character of the tv show? Lead character doesn't always equal protagonist. See: Walter White in the 5th season of BB.
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A protagonist (from Ancient Greek πρωταγωνιστής (protagonistes), meaning 'player of the first part, chief actor') is the main character in any story, such as a literary work or drama.[1]
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That's literally all it means dude lol.
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you're right, my mistake. i'm looking at protagonist as the hero, opposite of antagonist. however, my point still stands even though i got my words wrong. saul can be the protagonist (based on the correct definition) and be the bad guy that people turn on. see: walter white in the 5th season of BB.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:24
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Javid posted:This shot? The part that amazed me about this shot is keeping the lighting the same for each of the shots. Maybe that's something easy to do when compositing the shots in post nowadays, but to this layman's eyes it was really cool.
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TBeats posted:you're right, my mistake. i'm looking at protagonist as the hero, opposite of antagonist. how was walt a suddenly a  "bad guy" in S5, but not S1-4?
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