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Gwyneth Palpate posted:this is hardly new, the optimal way to play eve online has always been using money to accelerate everything it wasn't "everything" until injectors came along
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pre-emptive "don't even try to equate implants with that"
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Fix Lag posted:it wasn't "everything" until injectors came along no, i am talking about the character bazaar injectors didn't add anything new to the game, it only made an already existing process much more granular and easier
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Jun 10, 2017 19:19
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Just participated in my first major fleet fight. We took double Titan bridges so we barely had to take any gates. Landed on the enemy. Fired my weapons and was instantly vaporized and podded back home for free without having to take gates. If that's not total victory then I don't know what is 
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Jun 10, 2017 19:28
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:no, i am talking about the character bazaar on the contrary, it was rare to find the exact character you needed for any situation, with this it's possible to actually CREATE any character you want. before injectors no one really ever bought ganking, outside of people quitting and giving them away. now i've used 4-5 injectors on each of my dudes easily. likewise instead of either waiting 30 days to do some gimmick or buy an entire character to being able to do it, i can just buy a couple of 'jectors and shoot up dudes in my new 100mn hamgu if i was a ghost trainer i could straight up create 50 titan alts and buy 50 titans. before injectors i couldn't do that, it would take months, maybe even years to buy 50 titan pilots.
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also what the hell does ccp do with the 300-600 employees that they have? why is everything so slow and lovely at ccp HQ?
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:also what the hell does ccp do with the 300-600 employees that they have? why is everything so slow and lovely at ccp HQ? I know what they don't do with them produce new games that make it to market and create a revenue stream that eventually turns a profit
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Jun 10, 2017 19:55
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they have six gunjack or valkyrie like black box projects running all the time. only 20 people create new assets incl art for eve
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:on the contrary, it was rare to find the exact character you needed for any situation, with this it's possible to actually CREATE any character you want. rare, sure, but still possible i don't disagree with the fact that skill injectors accelerate the process to hell and back, but i definitely disagree that the problem is somehow novel or new
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Jun 10, 2017 19:56
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niche games for VR which has a shallow market
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never forget the janky yet still decent shooter that ccp made for a 13 year old console
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:on the contrary, it was rare to find the exact character you needed for any situation, with this it's possible to actually CREATE any character you want. This. It's not entirely unreasonable to equate the character bazaar to injectors, but they're two wildly different means of transferring SP. One is granular, as Querns explained, but the other has so much potential lost value that the only way to realize any ROI would be to sell the character again down the road. Coupled with the very serious amount of ISK involved, it's more like a luxury good (buying a YACHT) or a home, whereas SP from injectors is way more like a commodity. And even includes a built-in systemic inefficiency to sink SP.
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friends, ccp is going to be sold to the russians or chinese most likely. you think hilmar is going to reinvest his savings over the years into the trash heap his company has become? lmao
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Jun 10, 2017 20:00
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Totally scammed some gankers into giving me 100Mil for blowing up a 10mil ship earlier. 5/5 would deceive morons again. 
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:rare, sure, but still possible You were never going to encounter a situation where the character bazaar could enable thousands of pilots to simultaneously circumvent the SP requirements for a given ship or industrial activity. The volume never existed for it. The problem is brand new. The market, the players, and the designers had always accommodated the character bazaar. With injectors you literally have the posterchild for disruptive innovation/technology. We're dealing with completely different factors dictating how SP is used and traded, and how that SP impacts the market (which, honestly, I doubt the character bazaar had any measurable impact on the minerals index or any other part of the market).
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Catberry posted:This seems like such an upper class issue. How do people even manage to rally player outcry around reduced capital ship ratting income? It's not just the fighter changes, those are just the topper on a steaming pile of poo poo. CCP has been ignoring player feedback about new stuff dating as far back as the release of Fozziesov, and it's finally reached a point where people are just too goddamn upset to stay quiet.
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haHAA another ganking multiboxer permad again, no email or justification why should've just known better haHAA man i loving love ccp
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:haHAA another ganking multiboxer permad again, no email or justification why Who?
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:kusion  
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Catberry posted:Just participated in my first major fleet fight. We took double Titan bridges so we barely had to take any gates. 
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Jun 10, 2017 22:37
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Reverand maynard posted:niche games for VR which has a shallow market I have a rift, it's a non existent market really. I'd regret the purchase if I didn't get it at a really discounted price.
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:kusion gently caress this gay earth
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Jun 10, 2017 23:38
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So what exactly did CCP nerf because I don't play this dead game and I can't find anything in devposts.
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NPCs will be 15% more likely to hit fighters. And for rorqs they added a 5 hour delay between collosal anoms (in addition to the previous nerfs for the excavators).
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orange juche posted:So what exactly did CCP nerf because I don't play this dead game and I can't find anything in devposts. * excavator speed nerfed again, yield nerfed again (~10% each) * mining anomalies now have up to a 5 hour respawn (essentially puts a 15 rorq per system cap) * light fighters damage nerfed by 20% * short range fighterbomber nerfed 10% * long range fighterbomber basic attack nerfed 30% * rats like to shoot fighters more * (later) pirate BS build cost increase and BPC drop rate decrease (a good change)
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:* excavator speed nerfed again, yield nerfed again (~10% each) I love when stuff I don't use gets nerfed, the misery of others sustains me 
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Are escalation rates the same or are those being changed as well? Can't remember and I can't be assed to pull anything up.
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lucifirius posted:Are escalation rates the same or are those being changed as well? Can't remember and I can't be assed to pull anything up. CCP Serial Cheese Molestor posted:In June we are starting to address the supply of pirate battleship BPCs, with moderate changes to the chance of escalations spawning from the most popular high-end anomalies and larger changes to the drop rates of the BPCs themselves from quite a few NPCs.
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Should I have been looting the poo poo I was killing in my Thanatos?
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i'm running for csm next year can i get the goon vote?
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i'm also going to legally marry siegfried cohenberg so i can bring him along with my free flight for free
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:i'm running for csm next year can i get the goon vote? You got my vote, we could use a replacement for Suitonia.
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Baculus posted:Every time I get enough free time to log in to play with spaceships something terrible happens. That was CCP DrEyjoG. He left to be a dean at some university. Also Goons had a pretty decent showing at the ATXV Feeder Rounds yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBzUVnVxpWI They lost so they need to play 3 more matches on Sunday to earn a spot in the AT. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:haHAA another ganking multiboxer permad again, no email or justification why I feel like there has to be something happening to warrant a ban like this, but I honestly can't think of anything that'd make sense.
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Unfunny Poster posted:I feel like there has to be something happening to warrant a ban like this, but I honestly can't think of anything that'd make sense. we thought of a couple of things: he pays for all of my gankers every month, and in turn he just gets all the loot from the poo poo we kill, because I really only care for ganking. We think it might be CCP flagging him for RMT, but i'm not banned so it can't be that. he was banned for 30 days several months ago, and during that time his accounts ghost trained for like 20+ days, but no one else I know that ghost trained got banned yet, so we don't think it's that either. we really have no idea
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:we thought of a couple of things: you probably ganked the same dude twice in a day and got banned for harassment
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Catberry posted:Huh this game has MAGA caps without the text. That's awkward. Make New Eden Great again. These Sanshas are coming in, and you know they are not bringing their best people. The are belt rats, they are can stealers, they are gate campers. We need to build a big huge glorious bubble along the empire boarders!
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