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Moist von Lipwig posted:Fantasy is an inherently regressive, garbage genre. tell that to Ursula K Le Guin!
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a cyberpunk goose posted:Jk Rowling was on the dole for a time, I think welfare recipients are often pretty insecure about their status and probably have pretty elaborate brain castles built up about how they will be rich one day and would hate to be taxed and how welfare sucks to be on but I'm one of the good ones and this is embarrassing and so on. oh for gently caress's sake, the first thing you get if you google jk rowling welfare is quote:I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain's; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. it is possible to respect her for not balking at redistributing some of her wealth, but also criticize her for failing to back political steps to make it systematic
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 03:49 |
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anyone worth more than $5 million is actively making life worse for everyone else on earth but if that's what you respect then
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 03:56 |
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Seriously, how have the rich not been eaten yet?
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 04:15 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 04:19 |
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no fuckin way
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 04:30 |
that's the bad news here's the good news https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/873732373652791297
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 04:41 |
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Crazycryodude posted:Seriously, how have the rich not been eaten yet?
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 04:51 |
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Jeet is the Gray Fox of the Chapo universe; neither enemy, nor friend.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 04:55 |
Sebadoh Gigante posted:There are essentially two ways to go about making a superhero movie. You can make a “superhero” movie, (Christopher Nolan’s Batman films or Bryan Singer’s Superman) which takes the tropes, symbols and larger-than-life characters of the comic book universe seriously, analyzing the semiotics and psychology of superheroes and the culture that produces them. Or, you can say screw that egghead stuff and make a SUPERHERO movie, (John Favreau’s Iron Man or Richard Donner’s Superman) focusing on the technicolor spectacle that is the essential justification for the genre and leave the parsing of subtext to film critics and American Studies majors. smh
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 05:01 |
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Have the Dry Boys put out a list of books they like or anything like that? I learned about The Twenty Days of Turin from Will's twitter and George Saunders stories from Matt's AMA a few months ago and was hoping they'd recommended more good stuff.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 05:07 |
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Doctor Teeth posted:Have the Dry Boys put out a list of books they like or anything like that? I learned about The Twenty Days of Turin from Will's twitter and George Saunders stories from Matt's AMA a few months ago and was hoping they'd recommended more good stuff. e: Matt always mentions "18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon" as a starting point for Marx, and they're also pointed out David Harvey's lectures on Capital, which are available in video, audio or books. ee: Amber frequently refers to Mark Fisher. KICK BAMA KICK fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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specifically with mark fisher it's the book "Capitalist Realism: Is there no alternative?" and the essay "Exiting the Vampire Castle", the latter of which you can read here: http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=11299
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 05:19 |
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also if you're morbidly obsessed (as i seem to be) with reading a dead man's diary you can check out mark's blog at http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 05:55 |
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out of all of these mark fisher is absolutely the goon must-read as the story of a terminally depressed man.
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Mr. Lobe posted:tell that to Ursula K Le Guin! Oh my god gently caress A Wizard of Earthsea specifically
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:25 |
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Phobophilia posted:oh for gently caress's sake, the first thing you get if you google jk rowling welfare is jk Rowling alt spotted
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Mr. Lobe posted:tell that to Ursula K Le Guin! Exception that proves the rule, IMO
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Zikan posted:specifically with mark fisher it's the book "Capitalist Realism: Is there no alternative?" and the essay "Exiting the Vampire Castle", the latter of which you can read here: http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=11299 Capitalist Realism is exceptionally good
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Phobophilia posted:oh for gently caress's sake, the first thing you get if you google jk rowling welfare is I'm not sure if I understand you, her personal politics are pretty loving right wing. She's even using British nationalism (which is pretty out there to most of the world) as an argument for why she didn't gently caress off to a tax haven.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 09:22 |
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I think it's possible to have national pride and joy be A Nationalist but maybe I'm wrong. Like I'm proud that as a Canadian the Ltd fortunate have healthcare and poo poo and I would be very hesitant to leave this country because I do feel a debt of gratitude. That being said Rowling is an rear end in a top hat for myriad other reasons.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 09:25 |
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I don't. In my opinion, nationalism is a cancer that will inevitably blossom into full-on raging fascism given time. Besides, British Nationalism™ hasn't exactly been a benign force of good, historically.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 11:26 |
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On the other hand, numerous third world nationalisms have stood in direct opposition to the British and American imperial projects and been forces for liberation - albeit with varying degrees of success and subsequent disaster.
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Fair point. But I've seen firsthand how nationalism has twisted relatively benign centrist and left-of center political figures and parties into ethnostate totalitarian fascists. That's happened here in Norway, where we have what I can only describe as insane clown-car fascists in government, and the farmer's party have gone from relatively boring centrists (though notably created by the remnants of the old Nazi occupation party) to raging populist fascist agrarians. It's pretty stark when you compare it to just how the political climate appeared a mere ten years ago. Doesn't most nationalism rest on the idea of a non-existant ethnostate anyway? Also what the gently caress ever this is some nerd poo poo
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 11:45 |
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i see no evidence that jk rowling wants to eject non-british people, and i just see misguided respect for the technocratic elite, and a reflexive doubling down on her original opposition to corbyn. wanting to support the british social safety net she fondly remembers isn't some absurd pro-british nationalism, just because she wrongthinked and framed her argument around "britishness" ffs, there are alot of liberals that can be reached without being outright sidelined. remember felix remaining silent during some points of his interview with david hayter because hayter wasn't quite as left, but even then he admitted hayter was an ally rowling isn't an ally, but she isn't an outright opponent. remember the rl stephens interview where problematic people are still useful as part of the movement. rowling can still be reached with a class message
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Phobophilia posted:i see no evidence that jk rowling wants to eject non-british people, and i just see misguided respect for the technocratic elite, and a reflexive doubling down on her original opposition to corbyn. wanting to support the british social safety net she fondly remembers isn't some absurd pro-british nationalism, just because she wrongthinked and framed her argument around "britishness" Yeah, people can be wrong about something without being evil, or an enemy.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 12:23 |
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Sure, but I was responding to the idea that nationalism in and of itself is good. Which I don't think it is. Anyway. Moving on.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 12:51 |
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Rowling should pay more taxes and shut the gently caress up, to bring it back from my nationalism tangent.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 12:55 |
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I have very little patience for liberals that have meltdowns and treat socialism like it's the enemy of everything good, evilness is hardly ever attributable to outright malice sometimes it's just people being loving morons
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 13:24 |
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https://twitter.com/mekosoff/status/873873348656320512 https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/390732071536050176
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:Sure, but I was responding to the idea that nationalism in and of itself is good. Which I don't think it is. Anyway. Moving on. well you sure eviscerated the imaginary person who was trying to make that claim, so good job
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 13:47 |
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Phobophilia posted:rowling isn't an ally, but she isn't an outright opponent. lol if you don't count every billionaire as an opponent
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 15:22 |
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Not a book but I found this Richard Wolff speech to be really illuminating. Really good for people not too deep into leftism to grasp and understand concepts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4&t=2s
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 15:45 |
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Exception that proves the rule, IMO I'd argue that your username-sake is also a good example of fantasy not being trash. Pratchett commented on plenty of social issues in his writing.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 17:34 |
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Fantasy is an inherently regressive, garbage genre. Now tell us how comic book movies encourage fascism
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 18:11 |
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Gee I wonder how superhuman vigilantes who solve problems through spectacular violence might be interpreted as fascistic or reactionary.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 18:27 |
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little munchkin posted:well you sure eviscerated the imaginary person who was trying to make that claim, so good job thank
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TomViolence posted:Gee I wonder how superhuman vigilantes who solve problems through spectacular violence might be interpreted as fascistic or reactionary. Tony Stark is a communist imo.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 20:12 |
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Captain America is a New Deal Democrat who grew up poor in Brooklyn during the Depression and literally punched Nazis. If we're being realistic he's probably the most lefty of the bunch.
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Superman has his roots in being a hero for the working class / socialist. e: quote:At the beginning, Superman was very much a socialist superhero. He fought for the unemployed, the oppressed, he beat up wife-beaters. It's about a man driven by a burning sense of injustice -- there are no monsters or robots, he fights against corrupt council officials! He was conceived as a Depression-era superhero, who dealt with the problems of ordinary people. http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/helen-lewis-hasteley/2011/07/superheroes-superman-graphic SMP fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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