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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I'm trying to read this and I can't even understand what he said there, can someone enlighten me. It really honestly seems like he thinks he was asked "did you put someone under oath to make them swear loyalty to you under oath" which is absolute nonsense, but " Who would ask a man to pledge allegiance under oath?" seriously seems like what he thought he was talking about.
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Lemon King posted:https://twitter.com/AuthorKimberley/status/873980927365349376 When you have to ask this question over and over the answer starts to emerge.
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https://youtu.be/JTqOqNqRyiI Louie Gohmert calls for mass firings at the DOJ. "We need to round up everybody [James Comey] talked to because they were all conspiring against the president and all conspiring against their oath of office, conspiring against their own employment agreement." "We have a conspiracy remaining afoot in the Department of Justice that is going to be out to destroy this president and they’ve got to be fired, if not worse."
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Lemon King posted:https://twitter.com/AuthorKimberley/status/873980927365349376 gently caress yeah. I want Mueller to get fired as badly as I want Sessions to get fired. But for totally different reasons. 
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Jun 11, 2017 20:43
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Serfer posted:https://youtu.be/JTqOqNqRyiI This is either hilarious or absolutely terrifying. I can't tell anymore.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:44
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So... uh, what happens if he fires Mueller? Obviously it makes him look guilty as poo poo, but surely there isn't someone on the planet who thinks he's innocent, just those who want to forgive him for his crimes.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:45
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I can't wait for Louie Gohmert to be president. With Paul LePage as VP.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:46
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Jealous Cow posted:This is either hilarious or absolutely terrifying. I can't tell anymore. It's not terrifying, it's exciting as hell. Every person they fire would potentially become an incredible source for the media. I mean Comey's firing pissed off MANY people at the FBI, even though the FBI is traditionally conservative. Think about what would happen if there was some sort of mass purge at the DOJ.
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Gort posted:So... uh, what happens if he fires Mueller? Obviously it makes him look guilty as poo poo, but surely there isn't someone on the planet who thinks he's innocent, just those who want to forgive him for his crimes. They dont want to forgive him, they want to use him to advance their lovely tax agenda and terrible people-killing healthcare reform.
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Gort posted:So... uh, what happens if he fires Mueller? Obviously it makes him look guilty as poo poo, but surely there isn't someone on the planet who thinks he's innocent, just those who want to forgive him for his crimes. Paul Ryan tells us he's just not used to our modern ways because he is still Unfrozen Caveman President.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:47
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Gort posted:So... uh, what happens if he fires Mueller? Obviously it makes him look guilty as poo poo, but surely there isn't someone on the planet who thinks he's innocent, just those who want to forgive him for his crimes. The DOJ would need to appoint another Special Counsel.
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Gort posted:So... uh, what happens if he fires Mueller? Obviously it makes him look guilty as poo poo, but surely there isn't someone on the planet who thinks he's innocent, just those who want to forgive him for his crimes. What happens if Trump literally does the exact same thing that Nixon did before his tapes were discovered? Probably a massive loss in 2018 followed by impeachment proceedings. Nixon wasn't insta-impeached after the Saturday Night Massacre, but it was the point where the public collectively went "oh I see, you are guilty as hell, aren't you"
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Rigel posted:What happens if Trump literally does the exact same thing that Nixon did before his tapes were discovered? Probably a massive loss in 2018 followed by impeachment proceedings. Nixon wasn't insta-impeached after the Saturday Night Massacre, but it was the point where the public collectively went "oh I see, you are guilty as hell, aren't you" Yeah, I'm pretty sure firing the Special Counsel that like 78% of the US really loving wanted appointed because they don't trust the GOP to do this (regardless of if they think he's innocent) would be a final straw with the public.
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Night10194 posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure firing the Special Counsel that like 78% of the US really loving wanted appointed because they don't trust the GOP to do this (regardless of if they think he's innocent) would be a final straw with the public. Mueller is also a Republican appointed by Dubya and served as FBI director for a dozen years, he has an impeccable reputation. Plus, there have been zero leaks or public action taken by the Special Counsel and staff so far. Trump firing Mueller would be the worst possible optics, he couldn't even use a fig leaf excuse like he did with Comey. It would be nakedly to quash the Russia investigation.
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They also can't really do much to smear him, IIRC, because he was one of their top candidates to become the new FBI director.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:56
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Rigel posted:What happens if Trump literally does the exact same thing that Nixon did before his tapes were discovered? Probably a massive loss in 2018 followed by impeachment proceedings. Nixon wasn't insta-impeached after the Saturday Night Massacre, but it was the point where the public collectively went "oh I see, you are guilty as hell, aren't you" We've arguably already hit that point with Coney's firing. The problem is we're much more partisan now.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:56
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Lemon King posted:https://twitter.com/AuthorKimberley/status/873980927365349376 It would generate a small bit of positive press to come out ahead of the issue and state that they intend to maintain the integrity of the judicial process but I guess the administration is allergic to the idea.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:57
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Pellisworth posted:Mueller is also a Republican appointed by Dubya and served as FBI director for a dozen years, he has an impeccable reputation. Plus, there have been zero leaks or public action taken by the Special Counsel and staff so far. Look at you trying to use logic. If the GOP/Trump had used logic we wouldn't have even gotten to this point.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:58
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Buca di Bepis posted:It would generate a small bit of positive press to come out ahead of the issue and state that they intend to maintain the integrity of the judicial process but I guess the administration is allergic to the idea. My dream is that Trump fires Sessions for not firing Mueller, not understanding that Sessions can't do that at all.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:58
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Lemon King posted:https://twitter.com/AuthorKimberley/status/873980927365349376 he will do it because a spasm in his slowly melting brain says he should. so he will if he can. my honest guess is he will get mad at try to sue comey for defamation. So what else has been happing? i have been doing stuff and watching e3. so what else has happend?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he will do it because a spasm in his slowly melting brain says he should. so he will if he can. my honest guess is he will get mad at try to sue comey for defamation. nothing's happened, Trump is golfing, wait for the early a.m. tweet dump tomorrow he's no joke at his NJ club again this weekend
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I wonder if there's anything Trump can say or do that would make Pence bail out of the administration because the risk of career damage exceeds the odds of being the successor after resignation/impeachment. Because that would be goddamned beautiful.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I wonder if there's anything Trump can say or do that would make Pence bail out of the administration because the risk of career damage exceeds the odds of being the successor after resignation/impeachment. Because that would be goddamned beautiful. Pence doesn't have any other options, he's hated in his home state. It's Trump admin or nothing for him at this point, he won't jump ship.
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Jun 11, 2017 21:04
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:We've arguably already hit that point with Coney's firing. The problem is we're much more partisan now. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/61-percent-trump-fired-comey-protect-poll/story?id=47864899 most people think he fired comey because of the russia investigation, 61%. There is a narrative of "nothing matters" but actual polls show people care at least a little and there isn't a huge public just ignoring this stuff.
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Lemon King posted:https://twitter.com/AuthorKimberley/status/873980927365349376 Trump would win the high score of speedrunning the Nixon presidency. He probably wouldn't get impeached or anything but he'd look stupid and guilty as hell to everyone.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I wonder if there's anything Trump can say or do that would make Pence bail out of the administration because the risk of career damage exceeds the odds of being the successor after resignation/impeachment. Because that would be goddamned beautiful. Kill his horse?
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Google Butt posted:Trump straight up would not pass the citizenship test Irrelevant, because he would easily qualify for a mental disability waiver. (Our President has a broken brain.)
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Oh yes, no message except the same they've been saying for 8 years now, and I find it funny you're bitching that they're obstructing when you guys control the whole government. Of course he never bitched about obstruction when Republicans literally followed one rule; refuse anything democrats put forward
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Why in the world does anybody think anything would happen if Trump fired Mueller Everyone would be deeply troubled but they'd just keep cycling new people in until they closed the trial lol
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Pellisworth posted:nothing's happened, Trump is golfing, wait for the early a.m. tweet dump tomorrow lol. what a lazy gently caress. i saw the sessions poo poo and him gurgling about testyfying and sessions backing out and qatar escalating. but i am trying to take a brake.
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Gort posted:So... uh, what happens if he fires Mueller? Obviously it makes him look guilty as poo poo, but surely there isn't someone on the planet who thinks he's innocent, just those who want to forgive him for his crimes. All the responsible Republican in Congress release a statement that they're very concerned and troubled by this.
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See, that's what I think. If Trumps supporters actually cared about the law they wouldn't have voted for a rapist.
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if fox news didn't exist trump'd be at <20 approval rating (and yeah i know he wouldn't be prez if fox news didn't exist).
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Paracaidas posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/873979583032373248 That looks like Trump and his lawyer maneuvering to use staffers as scapegoats.
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I wonder if Republicans would care more about an Ossoff win in GA than if Trump blatantly fired Mueller to hinder the investigation.
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Mr Interweb posted:I think Sikhs area literally the only people from a major religion that don't seem to have any real shitheads within their ranks. Totally anecdotal, but every Sikh person I've ever met was super nice, kind and generous. I mean, their religion actually advocates for peace and not just yammering on about it. there are legitimate sikh terrorist groups: http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/khalistan-terror-camp-running-in-canada-to-attack-punjab-justin-trudeau-govt-alerted_1889985.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182
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Groovelord Neato posted:if fox news didn't exist trump'd be at <20 approval rating (and yeah i know he wouldn't be prez if fox news didn't exist). What's funny is, now that he's President, Fox news is fading into nothing.
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Lemon King posted:https://twitter.com/AuthorKimberley/status/873980927365349376 Why not? Only congress can hold the president accountable for anything, so he's basically above the law for now.
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