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# ? Jun 11, 2017 12:39 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 07:58 |
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HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice HM: Hiromu Takahashi vs. KUSHIDA HM: Minoru Suzuki vs. Hirooki Goto MOTYC: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito MOTYC: Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 12:40 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice Yes to all of these.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 18:24 |
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So we're not even half way done the year and this has to be up there with one of the best years for overall match quality right? Just so much amazing wrestling taking place all over the world
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 19:57 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:So we're not even half way done the year and this has to be up there with one of the best years for overall match quality right? Just so much amazing wrestling taking place all over the world I like to use the Cagematch Top 100 matches for reference https://www.cagematch.net//?id=111&view=list&sortby=colRating&sorttype=DESC Number of matches in the Top 100 by year: 2017 - 6 2016 - 9 2015 - 6 2014 - 5 2013 - 4 2012 - 5 2011 - 1 2010 - 2 2009 - 4 2008 - 3 2007 - 4 2006 - 4 2005 - 7 2004 - 7 2003 - 4 2002 - 2 2001 - 3 2000 - 2 1999 - 1 1998 - 1 1997 - 4 1996 - 0 1995 - 1 1994 - 7 1993 - 2 1992 - 1 1991 - 1 1990 - 1 1989 - 3 And there were none before 1989. 2017's total doesn't include ratings from Dominion, but I'm assuming Omega-Okada II will bring it up to 7 for the year.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 20:34 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:So we're not even half way done the year and this has to be up there with one of the best years for overall match quality right? Just so much amazing wrestling taking place all over the world Not even close. In the mid 90s you had AJPW and AJW providing amazing matches all the time (and someone like Toyota was doing it on the house shows!) Mexico was on fire, the NJPW jrs were fantastic and you had RINGS and UWFi doing lots of cool stuff too. While we have lots of indies now, we had as many major groups putting out that kind of quality while putting on more major shows. Non-mainstream US wrestling is more accessible to Westerners right now so more English speaking fans are aware of what's out there, but the economy of wrestling just can't compete with the 90s.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 20:53 |
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HM: Naito - Tanahashi NJPW Dominion 6-11-17 MOTYC: Okada-Omega II NJPW Dominion 6-11-17
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 21:30 |
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MOTYC: Hiromu Takahashi vs. KUSHIDA HM: Minoru Suzuki vs. Hirooki Goto MOTYC: Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 21:36 |
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HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice MOTYC: Hiromu Takahashi vs. KUSHIDA HM: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito MOTYC: Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 00:32 |
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HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice HM: Minoru Suzuki vs. Hirooki Goto MOTYC: Hiromu Takahashi vs. KUSHIDA MOTYC: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito MOTYC: Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 02:01 |
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HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice HM: Hiromu Takahashi vs. KUSHIDA HM: Minoru Suzuki vs. Hirooki Goto MOTYC: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito MOTYC: Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada All of this, I dont know if I can handle Okada/Omega III
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 02:37 |
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HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice MOTYC: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito MOTYC: Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada I haven't watched the rest of the show yet, but holy poo poo. I thought the IC title match was incredible but the main event was something else.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 02:41 |
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NienNunb posted:HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice N'thing these nominations.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 21:46 |
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NienNunb posted:HM: Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 06:56 |
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MOTYC: CARÍSTICO Y SOBERANO vs ÚLTIMO GUERRERO Y SANSÓN 6/16, Finals of the CMLL Gran Alternativa tournament. Super heat, some mind blowing spots and even some great strike exchanges. Awesome stuff, should be easy to find on youtube tomorrow, watch it.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 04:56 |
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MassRafTer posted:MOTYC: Seconded. Soberano Jr. is tremendous and he's not even 24 yet. Here's the link, official and legal from CMLL (timestamps - 1:50:40 for entrances, 1:56:45 for the start of the match itself) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Tck9D-Kz4&t=6640s
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# ? Jun 18, 2017 21:18 |
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I imagine there'll be a lot of disagreement about this: WMOTYC: The First Ever Women's MITB Ladder match The ending was hilarious and got a huge pop but it was also loving terrible, undercut the entire message WWE had been pushing including their very good video package at the start of the match, and basically made the Smackdown Women's Division look like a joke. The actual bulk of the match was a mess but entertaining at least, but the ending just completely derailed everything.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 01:30 |
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Jerusalem posted:I imagine there'll be a lot of disagreement about this: second
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 01:32 |
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WMOTYC: Naomi vs. Lana, WWE Money in the Bank, 6/18/17 holy poo poo
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:07 |
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WMOTYC: Randy Orton vs Jinder Mahal, WWE Money in the Bank 2017 18/06/17 Good Elements: Jinder has sick music Bad Elements: Literally everything else Jerusalem posted:I imagine there'll be a lot of disagreement about this: Thirded Bard Maddox posted:WMOTYC: Naomi vs. Lana, WWE Money in the Bank, 6/18/17 Seconded
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:56 |
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Bard Maddox posted:WMOTYC: Naomi vs. Lana, WWE Money in the Bank, 6/18/17 Third, that match was an insanely bad idea.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 03:07 |
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Updated OP with the two new Worst Match of the Year Contenders from MITB, and a couple of backdated Dominion HMs. Also upgraded KUSHIDA vs Takahashi from HM to MOTYC.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 03:54 |
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Bard Maddox posted:WMOTYC: Naomi vs. Lana, WWE Money in the Bank, 6/18/17 Thirding. Watching some matches right now for what I missed and this just felt so unbelievable. Awful, awful, awful chemistry together.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 03:57 |
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Jerusalem posted:I imagine there'll be a lot of disagreement about this: yea Bard Maddox posted:WMOTYC: Naomi vs. Lana, WWE Money in the Bank, 6/18/17 yea
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:03 |
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HMOTY: Money in the Bank Match - Fun ladder match with some pretty gnarly spots. AJ and Nakamura had a fun exchange. I would confirm Naomi/Lana for WMOTYC but Bayley/Alexa Bliss really lowered the bar this year.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:06 |
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Jerusalem posted:Updated OP with the two new Worst Match of the Year Contenders from MITB, and a couple of backdated Dominion HMs. Also upgraded KUSHIDA vs Takahashi from HM to MOTYC. I think you missed Naito/Tanahashi in the MOTYCs and have the MitB matches listed as happening on 6/11.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:09 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:I think you missed Naito/Tanahashi in the MOTYCs and have the MitB matches listed as happening on 6/11. I did and I did, thanks and fixed now.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:16 |
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Armitage posted:HMOTY: Money in the Bank Match - Fun ladder match with some pretty gnarly spots. AJ and Nakamura had a fun exchange. even though baron corbin won i will say it was a very excellent match
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:17 |
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3rd. It ramped up real strong towards the end and I dug the final result.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:51 |
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I'll go a fourth. Pretty standard stuff before Nakamura came back, but it was great from then on.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:08 |
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Y'all that match was not HM worthy at all lmao
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:09 |
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It's ok to like a match
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:31 |
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HM: Men's MITB match (as mentioned, went from good to great once Nak came back) WMOTYC: Naomi/Lana (exactly as terrible as we all predicted, and Lana is painfully not ready for this spot.) WMOTYC: Women's MITB match (They built this up as a huge, historic, game-changing moment ... and then pissed it away with a joke winner that will almost certainly be retconned on Tuesday. Inexcusable.)
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:35 |
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:It's ok to like a match source?
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:36 |
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Cardboard Box posted:even though baron corbin won i will say it was a very excellent match I think you wrote "even though" where you meant to write "because"
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:39 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:source? I cant reveal my sources at this time, thank you for understanding
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 05:40 |
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HM: Atlantis vs Hechicero, CMLL Arena Puebla 6/19 It feels like Atlantis is working harder and harder as the year progresses.
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# ? Jun 20, 2017 05:20 |
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WATCH THIS MATCH. At least watch the third fall. HM: Barbaro Cavernario vs Volador Jr, CMLL 6/20 Arena Mexico https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lacAUH-C4nc&t=6944s
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 03:38 |
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MassRafTer posted:WATCH THIS MATCH. At least watch the third fall. Barbaro please stop jumping from the post too the floor even if it looks so cool
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:05 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 07:58 |
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Every time I see Barbaro is still able to walk, let alone wrestle, I'm surprised. Match was fun though, don't know if I'd call it a HM but that may largely because I'm unfamiliar with the product or the live experience with all the horns constantly blaring etc, which was kinda distracting.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 09:00 |