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Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

T.S. Smelliot posted:

Those silly failing ReTHUGlicans! They can't do anything except win every single possible contest by crushing margins!

They are winning so hard they can't do anything with what they got.

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ricro
Dec 22, 2008
There are so many hillary threads on this forum what are you people even doing

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

They're bad but if you check the numbers three million people wanted them so here we are, they're never going to go away. And hoo boy just wait until 2020

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
We'd stop talking about her if she'd just gently caress off back to the woods like the sasquatch she is

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

If she had an ounce of dignity she would have an allergic reaction to shrimp and fall into a coma

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
If Hillary Clinton was half as pragmatic as everyone says she'd have gone into the woods and meditated herself into one sparkling moment of lucid escape from the demons plaguing her mind, during which she pleads with secret service to reject their training and do her, the real Hillary, one last necessary favor.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Blue Train posted:

If she had an ounce of dignity she would have an allergic reaction to shrimp and fall into a coma

She passed out at the Cedar Rapids waterfront and had to be saved by the Secret Service

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

SlipkPIe posted:

There are so many hillary threads on this forum what are you people even doing

yellin into the void most of the time

every couple of weeks somethin funny does happen though

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

yellin into the void most of the time

every couple of weeks somethin funny does happen though

see the slaves thing

and to a much lesser extent a man w/ poor reading comprehension calling stuff fake news

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

nigga crab pollock posted:

why didn't you list them then

Donald Trump, mike pence, ted Cruz, Steve bannon....


Nancy pelosi sucks because she's willing to treat symptoms but never the disease.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

VideoTapir posted:

Donald Trump, mike pence, ted Cruz, Steve bannon....


Nancy pelosi sucks because she's willing to treat symptoms but never the disease.

She pretty much said in a recent interview that she doesn't think the democrats need a change in direction, everything is fine!

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

VideoTapir posted:

Donald Trump, mike pence, ted Cruz, Steve bannon....


Nancy pelosi sucks because she's willing to treat symptoms but never the disease.

She IS the disease

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

T.S. Smelliot posted:

She IS the disease

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

T.S. Smelliot posted:

She IS the disease

She's literally married to Wall Street

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

I think a good start would purging dems from top leadership positions who have safe blue districts.

Sort of tough to care about the rest of the country, when you live in rich safe blue bad dem district.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

etalian posted:

I think a good start would purging dems from top leadership positions who have safe blue districts.

Sort of tough to care about the rest of the country, when you live in rich safe blue bad dem district.

But that's how you get seniority.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

T.S. Smelliot posted:

Those silly failing ReTHUGlicans! They can't do anything except win every single possible contest by crushing margins!

Being able to convince morons to vote for you by yelling biggly and maga isn't really an impressive feat.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Being able to convince morons to vote for you by yelling biggly and maga isn't really an impressive feat.

Trumps win was inherently impressive considering everything working against him. the same way a tornado is inherently awesome in the true sense of the word

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Being able to convince morons to vote for you by yelling biggly and maga isn't really an impressive feat.

Not being able to sell morons on your plan doesn't say a lot for the plan.

I mean sure, the people are too stupid to self govern but we have to at least pretend

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Oct 15, 2012

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Toadvine posted:

Trumps win was inherently impressive considering everything working against him. the same way a tornado is inherently awesome in the true sense of the word

Didn't he pull Romney's numbers essentially? If so the trick was really in him not losing anything while his opponent just randomly exploded.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


Romney was not exactly the target of infinite vitriol from the press.

Scorn, yes. Vitriol, no.

The fact he pulled Romney numbers despite tremendous negative coverage is impressive.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

fruit on the bottom posted:

Didn't he pull Romney's numbers essentially? If so the trick was really in him not losing anything while his opponent just randomly exploded.

Considering after Obamas two wins everyone was saying it would be impossible for a Rep to ever win the presidency again (demographics changing and such), yes it was impressive

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Oct 15, 2012

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Tallgeese posted:

Romney was not exactly the target of infinite vitriol from the press.

Scorn, yes. Vitriol, no.

The fact he pulled Romney numbers despite tremendous negative coverage is impressive.

That's absolutely a fair point, but it still required his opponent's base to collapse. It would still have been impressive, but I don't know if we'd be talking about how impressive it was if he hadn't won, y'know?

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
We bang on the DNC for running the corrupt establishment jackass against Trump and while it is totally their fault it is also funny how tone deaf to their constituency the GOP was, trotting out the zodiac killer and Bush III

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

tactlessbastard posted:

We bang on the DNC for running the corrupt establishment jackass against Trump and while it is totally their fault it is also funny how tone deaf to their constituency the GOP was, trotting out the zodiac killer and Bush III

the crazy thing is this also exposed that the GOP primaries are actually a democratic process that's amazingly fair compared to the DNC

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


fruit on the bottom posted:

That's absolutely a fair point, but it still required his opponent's base to collapse. It would still have been impressive, but I don't know if we'd be talking about how impressive it was if he hadn't won, y'know?

Well yeah, you are absolutely correct. I'm just saying both Trump holding steady despite his opposition while Hillary collapsed were required for him to win.

tactlessbastard posted:

We bang on the DNC for running the corrupt establishment jackass against Trump and while it is totally their fault it is also funny how tone deaf to their constituency the GOP was, trotting out the zodiac killer and Bush III

The RNC was not actually tone-deaf: they were using identity politics.

Ted Cruz is Hispanic; he was a cynical attempt to court the Hispanic vote.

Same deal with Jeb Bush, who has a Hispanic wife.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

VikingSkull posted:

the crazy thing is this also exposed that the GOP primaries are actually a democratic process that's amazingly fair compared to the DNC

New in 2020...you thought you'd seen the best the DNC had to offer. This election season, strap in for nothing like you've ever seen before. You voted for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.

This summer, come and bear witness.... To the Ultradelegates.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
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Biscuit Hider
I'm saying the same thing too from the other direction, so I think we're in agreement.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Tallgeese posted:

Same deal with Jeb Bush, who has a Hispanic wife.

Him being a Bush probably has more to do with it.

Bet hey, guac bowl anyone?

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


fruit on the bottom posted:

I'm saying the same thing too from the other direction, so I think we're in agreement.

We are indeed.


FisheyStix posted:

New in 2020...you thought you'd seen the best the DNC had to offer. This election season, strap in for nothing like you've ever seen before. You voted for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.

This summer, come and bear witness.... To the Ultradelegates.

All will vote to a man for Chelsea before the primary even starts.

JB50 posted:

Him being a Bush probably has more to do with it.

Bet hey, guac bowl anyone?

Bush was the perfect RNC candidate. With him, they could have their cake and eat it too is what I'm saying.

It was an incredibly cynical calculation. The problem is that cynical calculations blew up in both parties' faces.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
Jeb! could have been the next coming of Winston Churchill and he still would have had an enormous hole to climb out of.

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

FisheyStix posted:

New in 2020...you thought you'd seen the best the DNC had to offer. This election season, strap in for nothing like you've ever seen before. You voted for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.

This summer, come and bear witness.... To the Ultradelegates.

lmao

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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"Trump won because people are stupid, ergo Hillary lost because she is too smart."

How many fallacies can you fit into one theory?

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

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After the wolf
do wild men follow

tactlessbastard posted:

Jeb! could have been the next coming of Winston Churchill and he still would have had an enormous hole to climb out of.

I mean, Winston Churchill managed to lose an election right after winning WW2 which seems like a pretty Jeb! move.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Kainser posted:

I mean, Winston Churchill managed to lose an election right after winning WW2 which seems like a pretty Jeb! move.
“Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour.

...Please clap."

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games

Tallgeese posted:

Romney was not exactly the target of infinite vitriol from the press.

Scorn, yes. Vitriol, no.

The fact he pulled Romney numbers despite tremendous negative coverage is impressive.

The mistake word here is "despite."

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mitt was poo poo

1. "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.

... My job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." -Mitt Romney, in leaked comments from a fundraiser in May 2012

2. "Corporations are people, my friend ... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings, my friend." —Mitt Romney to a heckler at the Iowa State Fair who suggested that taxes should be raised on corporations as part of balancing the budget (August 2011)

3. "When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no -- and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem." –Mitt Romney, suggesting it would be a good idea to crack a window at 35,000 feet, Beverly Hills fundraiser, Sept.

22, 2012

4. "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." –Mitt Romney, using an unfortunate choice of words while advocating for consumer choice in health insurance plans (January 2012)

5. "I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there." —Mitt Romney (January 2012)

6."I went to a number of women's groups and said 'Can you help us find folks?' and they brought us whole binders full of women." —Mitt Romney, on staffing his cabinet while he was governor of Massachusetts, presidential debate, Oct.

16, 2012

7. "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs." —Mitt Romney, during the second presidential debate
"Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs." —Mitt Romney, 45 minutes later (Oct. 16, 2012)

8. "My dad, as you probably know, was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico... and had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this. But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. I mean, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino." -Mitt Romney, in leaked comments from a Florida fundraiser, May 17 2012

9. "It's hard to know just how well [the 2012 London Olympics] will turn out. There are a few things that were disconcerting. The stories about the private security firm not having enough people, the supposed strike of the immigration and customs officials, that obviously is not something which is encouraging." –Mitt Romney, insulting Britain on the eve of the Olympics by suggesting the country is not ready, NBC News interview, July 25, 2012

10. "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in.

That's the America I love." –Mitt Romney (January 2012)

Bonus Quotes:

"Actually, I didn't say that." –Mitt Romney, when asked about his oft-cited quote that 47 percent of Americans can't be persuaded to take personal responsibility, Washington Post interview, July 28, 2013

"Tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow." –Mitt Romney on his final day of campaigning, Nov. 5, 2012

"We use Ann sparingly right now so that people don't get tired of her." –Mitt Romney, referring to his wife while speaking to a room of wealthy donors in Florida, May 17, 2012

"I think the best answer is as little as possible." –Mitt Romney, when asked what he wears to bed at night, interview with ABC's "LIVE! with Kelly and Michael," Sept. 14, 2012

"The embassy in Cairo put out a statement after their grounds had been breached. ...

An apology for America’s values is never the right course. ... The statement that came from the administration was — was a statement which is akin to apology and I think was a — a severe miscalculation." –Mitt Romney, attempting to politicize the killings of American diplomats in Libya by falsely accusing President Obama of apologizing for America and getting the facts of the situation backwards (Sept. 12, 2012)

"Is $100,000 middle income?" -George Stephanopoulos
"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less." -Mitt Romney, ABC's "Good Morning America," Sept. 14, 2012

"When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things that you think are important." –Mitt Romney, when asked about failing to mention the troops in his nomination speech at the Republican National Convention, Fox News interview (Sept. 7, 2012)

"Join me in welcoming the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan." –Mitt Romney, committing a gaffe while introducing his running mate, Norfolk, Va., Aug. 11, 2012

"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney's net worth is over $200 million.

"[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs." –Mitt Romney, campaigning for president in Michigan (February 2012)

"I'll tell you what, ten-thousand bucks? $10,000 bet?" –Mitt Romney, attempting to make a wager with Rick Perry during a Republican presidential debate to settle a disagreement about health care (December 2011)

"PETA is not happy that my dog likes fresh air." —Mitt Romney in 2007, responding to criticism from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals following revelations that he had once put the family dog in a carrier and strapped it to the roof of his car during a 12-hour road trip

"I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners." —Mitt Romney, after being asked whether he follows NASCAR racing (February 2012)

"There were a couple of times I wondered whether I was going to get a pink slip" –Mitt Romney, attempting to identify with the problems of average folk (January 2012)

"I'm not sure about these cookies.

They don't look like you made them. No, no. They came from the local 7/11 bakery, or whatever." —Mitt Romney, visiting a local bakery while campaigning in Pittsburgh, PA, April 17, 2012 (The owner of the baker later told MSNBC he was offended by Romney's remarks.)

"I like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks." —Mitt Romney to a group of NASCAR fans wearing plastic ponchos at the Daytona 500 (February 2012)

"Who let the dogs out? Who, who." –Mitt Romney, during an awkward photo op with a group of African Americans kids at a Martin Luther King Day parade (January 2008)

"I'm Wolf Blitzer and yes, that's my real name." —CNN's Wolf Blitzer at the beginning of a November 2011 Republican presidential debate
"I'm Mitt Romney—and yes Wolf, that's also my first name." —Mitt Romney, getting his own name wrong (his first name is "Willard," and his middle name is "Mitt")

"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


And he still got less negative press than Trump.

The press is poo poo.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Tbf any press on Trump is negative press by virtue of him being a bad person. You could let him speak uninterrupted for half an hour with no additional commentaries and it would be negative press against him

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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Shits gonna be poo poo. Hillary, the press, trump, dnc, rnc, all poo poo

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