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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

CrcleSqreSanchz posted:

So being in Canada has a lot of advantages but finding a good graphics tablet display is not one of them. With a weak canadian dollar most of the ones you would recommend are high in price.
The monoprice one however is a good price. https://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/24455?maincategoryid=108&categoryid=10841&subcategoryid=1084101&cpncd=
With a beast of a computer and only wanting to use it for digital painting tell me true. What kind of tablet am I getting? Decent? Garbage?

Unless something changed the Monoprice 22" is basically a rebranded Huion Gt 220, so pretty good in terms of budget cintiq alternative, especially for $350. I would make real sure it's not all scratched up or has dead pixels or whatever since it's a refurb

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CrcleSqreSanchz
Aug 21, 2002

I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!

Wowporn posted:

Unless something changed the Monoprice 22" is basically a rebranded Huion Gt 220, so pretty good in terms of budget cintiq alternative, especially for $350. I would make real sure it's not all scratched up or has dead pixels or whatever since it's a refurb

Thaaat's what it was a rebrand of. I knew I knew it somewhere. Thank you.

They have promised me it will work as new or take it back so we will see...

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse
Question for anyone that's used a Surface- if I press a modifier key like the Shift key and use the pen, I get a small text box at my cursor that says Shift. This is extraordinarily annoying because it covers a bit of the screen where I'm trying to work. Is there a setting I can select that will shut that off? I'm not even sure what to search for since I don't know what this feature is called.

Electricb7
Sep 7, 2012

>Hand over the jewels lady
Still waiting on those dell Canvas reviews...

tvgm2 posted:

Does anyone have a recommendation alternative to the Wacom ExpressKey Remote? Or does everyone use a keyboard?

Razer Tartarus. multiplied my painting speed x10. I highly recommend it.
edit- wow did they hike the price up? I paid $40 for mines new at walmart. $80 seems odd.

Electricb7 fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Apr 26, 2017

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"

Yam Slacker

Electricb7 posted:

Still waiting on those dell Canvas reviews...


Razer Tartarus. multiplied my painting speed x10. I highly recommend it.
edit- wow did they hike the price up? I paid $40 for mines new at walmart. $80 seems odd.

Can you post the keymap you use for the Tartarus?

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Listerine posted:

Question for anyone that's used a Surface- if I press a modifier key like the Shift key and use the pen, I get a small text box at my cursor that says Shift. This is extraordinarily annoying because it covers a bit of the screen where I'm trying to work. Is there a setting I can select that will shut that off? I'm not even sure what to search for since I don't know what this feature is called.

I'm turning off settings all the time when I sit down at different computers. In windows 10 there are a few different places to look. First is Windows button -> settings -> Devices -> pen and windows ink. (or windows button -> pen settings) I turn off "Show Visual Effects" when I get a white ring around the cursor



The other place is windows button -> pen and touch settings (search and it comes up in the results) -> press and hold -> settings. turn off "Enable press and hold for right-clicking"



Last option I try when things go wrong is turning off "Use Windows Ink" in wacom settings. Not sure what that might do for you on a native tablet device like a Surface. I'm a huge prick

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

tvgm2 posted:

Can you post the keymap you use for the Tartarus?

I was gonna do this but Razer synapse stopped working today and now I can't access my saved button configs at all :/ the tartarus just goes to the default left half of keyboard map without any software going and that's not really helpful unless I just remap everything in manga studio

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

Elsa posted:

I'm turning off settings all the time when I sit down at different computers. In windows 10 there are a few different places to look. First is Windows button -> settings -> Devices -> pen and windows ink. (or windows button -> pen settings) I turn off "Show Visual Effects" when I get a white ring around the cursor



The other place is windows button -> pen and touch settings (search and it comes up in the results) -> press and hold -> settings. turn off "Enable press and hold for right-clicking"



Last option I try when things go wrong is turning off "Use Windows Ink" in wacom settings. Not sure what that might do for you on a native tablet device like a Surface. I'm a huge prick

Thanks, I've tried all those and it takes care of the white ring and such but it does nothing for the Shift/Alt etc tooltip box, which is apparently a built in feature of Ink which cannot be turned off. Since it's not a Wacom tablet I don't have access to that, I looked a bit more and I'm going to try shutting off Ink and switching to the Wintab driver but I think I have to do registry edits and other bullshit like that which I hate to do for fear of not being able to undo a mistake. It boggles my mind that someone would design a tablet monitor device and then have visual clutter right where I want to sculpt that I can't turn off.

In case anyone following the thread was interested, I would highly NOT recommend a Surface Studio if you're using Zbrush or any old versions of Adobe products (before CS6).

tvgm2 posted:

Can you post the keymap you use for the Tartarus?

I'm using an Orbweaver which is pretty much the same thing, I don't use it for Photoshop since I don't paint, but these devices are excellent in that you can set up the key bindings any way you want that supports your workflow. I've used them for tasks as different as gaming, sculpting in Zbrush, and quantifying anatomical morphology in neuroscience research. I usually have a period for any program where I bounce keymappings around based on how I actually use the software, but once I have everything dialed in where I want it, it makes working in any software that uses keyboard shortcuts so much better. When I use it for my research projects for example, I'm generally processing hundreds of images per experiment, and not having to move my fingers across a keyboard might only save a bit of time per image but it adds up in a hurry. Where you want shortcuts mapped will also depend on how large your hands are relative to the device and what ends up being most comfortable for you.

bitmap
Aug 8, 2006

seriously considering getting one of those "gamer keypads" with the corny names. do any of them have a thumb scroll that I could map to rolling in animation programs?

Listerine posted:

I've used them for tasks as different as gaming

mmhmm

Listerine posted:

sculpting in Zbrush

right, right.

Listerine posted:

and quantifying anatomical morphology in neuroscience research

:eyepop::eyepop::eyepop:

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

bitmap posted:

seriously considering getting one of those "gamer keypads" with the corny names. do any of them have a thumb scroll that I could map to rolling in animation programs?

The Razer Orbweaver and Tartarus do not. The older model Razer used to put out, the Nostromo, had one but it was really poorly implemented, I wouldn't recommend searching one out for it. You can keymap scroll up and scroll down from the mouse scroll wheel to a button on the Tartarus/Orbweaver, but you get one unit of scroll for one button press, so if you wanted to execute fluid scrolling, you'd have to hit the key multiple times, which is quite annoying. If you use the joystick on the device, to which scroll up/down are default mapped, you still have to click the joystick once for each unit of scroll, but it's less mechanically fatiguing to use the joystick than to use the keypad buttons. There may be a workaround but I haven't looked for it. It's irritating but the mapping for page up/page down will continually move while holding down the button, so if you can use those keys for your rolling or scrubbing or whatever in whichever software you use, then you'd be set.

Logitech also has a keypad you could search for, I've never used it and don't know if it has a scroll wheel.

Even without a good mapping of the mouse scroll, I can't recommend these things enough, they're really useful. It's almost liked they looked at the criticism on the scroll wheel on the nostromo and just took it out instead of fixing it, which is super disappointing.

One thing I've never tried is macros- so you may be able to create a macro where when you hit a key, it repeats the action until you hit it again, that would solve the problem somewhat. --Ok I just tried Macros. So, you can record button presses to build a macro, and then assign that to a key, and you have the option to have the macro continuously execute until the next keypress. So that would work, EXCEPT the record function doesn't detect the mouse scroll wheel. But if your software uses any other keyboard button press to do the same job as the mouse scroll wheel, then you would be okay.

Listerine fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Apr 27, 2017

bitmap
Aug 8, 2006

thanks for the info. orbweaver looks better than the logitec g13. I'll pick one up.

edit- uh the joystick doesn't work on mac? okay. maybe not.

CrcleSqreSanchz
Aug 21, 2002

I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!
So I hate to be that guy, but I am being that guy.

Hi, I'm the Canuck that just bought the Monoprice 22" pen display. I have a computer running windows 7. I plugged the 22" display in. I usb'd it. I had to use a HDMI to DVI-D connector as I only seem to have one HDMI output. The computer recognizes the stylus going over the screen. But I have a black screen. My monitor (the one that uses the HDMI) is fine. My tablet sits there with a blue power light, but black screen. ......help?

I did install the latest graphics card drivers. I did go to monoprice's site and download their latest drivers. I extended desktops. I duplicated desktops. I tried googling but it's all reviews when I need troubleshooting. anywhere I can go or does anyone have any ideas?

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Listerine posted:

Thanks, I've tried all those and it takes care of the white ring and such but it does nothing for the Shift/Alt etc tooltip box, which is apparently a built in feature of Ink which cannot be turned off. Since it's not a Wacom tablet I don't have access to that, I looked a bit more and I'm going to try shutting off Ink and switching to the Wintab driver but I think I have to do registry edits and other bullshit like that which I hate to do for fear of not being able to undo a mistake. It boggles my mind that someone would design a tablet monitor device and then have visual clutter right where I want to sculpt that I can't turn off.

I checked google just now and they seem to all suggest a registry edit. I did a few edits to my registry last night to turn off a dialog box when I plug in headphones on my laptop. If it's just one value I wouldn't worry about it. It's likely a switch from 0 to 1 on a very specific registry item that you can reverse.

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

CrcleSqreSanchz posted:

So I hate to be that guy, but I am being that guy.

Hi, I'm the Canuck that just bought the Monoprice 22" pen display. I have a computer running windows 7. I plugged the 22" display in. I usb'd it. I had to use a HDMI to DVI-D connector as I only seem to have one HDMI output. The computer recognizes the stylus going over the screen. But I have a black screen. My monitor (the one that uses the HDMI) is fine. My tablet sits there with a blue power light, but black screen. ......help?

I did install the latest graphics card drivers. I did go to monoprice's site and download their latest drivers. I extended desktops. I duplicated desktops. I tried googling but it's all reviews when I need troubleshooting. anywhere I can go or does anyone have any ideas?

I've had something similiar happen where windows put the wrong drivers on the tablet monitor. But if that's the case I'm surprised your stylus is responding at all. Though it's still likely some kind of driver conflict (cause that's the problem with these tablets 99% of the time anyways). Here's something you can try. First uninstall the monoprice drivers, then unplug the tablet monitor from your computer. Restart with the tablet monitor disconnected. Once you reboot, plug it back in and reinstall the monoprice drivers. If that doesn't work, then do it again but this time make sure to remove any tablet specific drivers supplied by windows like "windows ink" (or whatever the hell windows 7 has) cause those can cause a conflict as well.

There's a chance its a hardware defect as well or a loose cable or something but if it's not that, then I'm pretty sure your issue is some drivers gently caress up between Huion/Monoprice and Windows.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Are you using the HDMI or dvi port on the monitor itself? On my ugee(which is nearly the same as the Huion and the monoprice) The HDMI Port Stopped Working After Like a month(I'm not sure why my phone is capitalizing everything) and I had to use the dvi instead

CrcleSqreSanchz
Aug 21, 2002

I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!

Wowporn posted:

Are you using the HDMI or dvi port on the monitor itself? On my ugee(which is nearly the same as the Huion and the monoprice) The HDMI Port Stopped Working After Like a month(I'm not sure why my phone is capitalizing everything) and I had to use the dvi instead

I have used both and nothing. Still black screen.

JuniperCake posted:

I've had something similiar happen where windows put the wrong drivers on the tablet monitor. But if that's the case I'm surprised your stylus is responding at all. Though it's still likely some kind of driver conflict (cause that's the problem with these tablets 99% of the time anyways). Here's something you can try. First uninstall the monoprice drivers, then unplug the tablet monitor from your computer. Restart with the tablet monitor disconnected. Once you reboot, plug it back in and reinstall the monoprice drivers. If that doesn't work, then do it again but this time make sure to remove any tablet specific drivers supplied by windows like "windows ink" (or whatever the hell windows 7 has) cause those can cause a conflict as well.

There's a chance its a hardware defect as well or a loose cable or something but if it's not that, then I'm pretty sure your issue is some drivers gently caress up between Huion/Monoprice and Windows.

I did the first thing multiple times, since this isn't my first monoprice tablet and I always remember it being poo poo. I did another scrub of anything that is remotely tablet/ink/touch pc on my windows 7 machine until I didn't see anything on control panel for any touch options. Then I followed the instruction manual again. Still a black screen. The tablet setting dialog sees the "2nd monitor" but then freezes when trying to calibrate.


At this point it has to be a bum tablet. I can't see there being anything wrong with my machine. I'll try to send for a replacement but if that doesn't work then I'm getting a refund and will obviously never, ever be able to digital paint with a tablet monitor...sniff...

Thanks all for the help though!

Kortel
Jan 7, 2008

Nothing to see here.
So, my wife just bought me a 27QHD Non-Touch Cintiq. Should be here Tuesday. I'm trying to figure out where the hell on my desk it'll go. Purchased an Ergo Arm LX and adapter for it but looking at the specs this thing is gigantic. I was going to order the 22HD-T but uhh.. she beat me to the trigger? Jumping from the Intous Pro Model L it's going to be interesting to say the least.
Edit - I thought my desk could handle the size due to using some 27IPS monitors but it's friggin larger than those.

Kortel fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 6, 2017

bitmap
Aug 8, 2006

Kortel posted:

So, my wife just bought me a 27QHD Non-Touch Cintiq. Should be here Tuesday. I'm trying to figure out where the hell on my desk it'll go. Purchased an Ergo Arm LX and adapter for it but looking at the specs this thing is gigantic. I was going to order the 22HD-T but uhh.. she beat me to the trigger? Jumping from the Intous Pro Model L it's going to be interesting to say the least.
Edit - I thought my desk could handle the size due to using some 27IPS monitors but it's friggin larger than those.

the ergo arm was a pro purchase and you'll be fine. we've got 3 27's on ergotrons at my studio on desks barely bigger than the base stand of the new imacs.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
I have never heard of these ergo arms. Hmmm.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
Which model did you guys get? [url= https://www.amazon.com/LX-Desk-Mount-LCD-Arm/dp/B00358RIRC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494340173&sr=8-1&keywords=ergotron+lx+arm]this one? [/url]

It can articulate to hold a cintiq well? I've heard the new cintiq pros are way thinner, it'll still be able to accommodate them do you guys think?

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses

Koramei posted:

Which model did you guys get? [url= https://www.amazon.com/LX-Desk-Mount-LCD-Arm/dp/B00358RIRC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494340173&sr=8-1&keywords=ergotron+lx+arm]this one? [/url]

It can articulate to hold a cintiq well? I've heard the new cintiq pros are way thinner, it'll still be able to accommodate them do you guys think?

I use this exact arm on a Cintiq 21UX (fourth generation). It works well, though maybe having the tall post version would have been better for my particular desk setup. The larger cintiqs are thinner and lighter than the 21UX, so it should still work for those. I position it so it fits the display right in my lap, and it works well. You will need to spend some time adjusting the tension to taste.

Kortel
Jan 7, 2008

Nothing to see here.
Got my Cintiq 27qhd yesterday. Got it play with it for about half an hour before working on the house. It's gorgeous if a tad bit dark, colors seem slightly off. Going to be tweaking it a bit. My Ergo arm comes in some time tomorrow so I'll be changing the desk layout.

It's very nice, responsive and only puts off a little heat. Sharp as heck and I'm really digging the remote. Been at work most of the day but off tomorrow. Can't wait to actually get some time on it.

Electricb7
Sep 7, 2012

>Hand over the jewels lady

tvgm2 posted:

Can you post the keymap you use for the Tartarus?

Sorry I didn't reply. I usually dont post here a lot :3





kefkafloyd posted:

I use this exact arm on a Cintiq 21UX (fourth generation). It works well, though maybe having the tall post version would have been better for my particular desk setup. The larger cintiqs are thinner and lighter than the 21UX, so it should still work for those. I position it so it fits the display right in my lap, and it works well. You will need to spend some time adjusting the tension to taste.

The only reason I never got one of those arms is because I also have a 21ux and that thing is heavy as hell. I didn't even bother buying it because I was so sure it wasn't going to be stable.
Currently looking into getting a newer model cintiq because I'm tired of the size, heat, and slight reddish tones that it gives off when painting. Could never calibrate it to output correct colors.

Ever since I removed my 21ux from my setup I remodeled by work space for better workflow. I have a dell u2415 in portrait mode to my left and my HP 25xw in the center for multiple windows in photoshop. I have no idea where I'm going to put a cintiq. I also have a audio interface and 2 comically large studio monitors on my desk as well so I'm really out of space. Trying to visualize how the arm might fix the problem....

Electricb7 fucked around with this message at 05:07 on May 17, 2017

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"

Yam Slacker

Electricb7 posted:

Sorry I didn't reply. I usually dont post here a lot :3






Thank you!

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Clip Studio is amazing, why didn't anybody tell me about it!

Chedranian Girl
Sep 15, 2008

IS THAT A WEAPON?
Hi guys! I'm getting a new laptop soon and I'm considering getting a Cintiq 13" to go with it. At the moment I have an old Bamboo that I'd like to hook up until I get some pennies saved for the Cintiq. Would it be possible to have both of these installed and use them interchangeably or should I uninstall the Bamboo when I buy the Cintiq? (I already have a Yiynova 19mspu attached to my desktop which is ace but I know there are wacom compatibility problems so I'd keep the Cintiq on the lappy).

Smets
Nov 4, 2009
Wacom drivers are unreliable enough when dealing with one tablet, I can't imagine the headache you might be in for juggling two. I'd uninstall the Bamboo before installing the new tablet. The Cintiq has a "Display Toggle" feature that will let you use it like a regular tablet on your laptop screen, if that's what you're wanting.

Chedranian Girl
Sep 15, 2008

IS THAT A WEAPON?
Okay yeah that's fair enough. The toggle thing is helpful, I was mainly thinking the Bamboo more portable.

As an aside though, since I'm used to Yiynova as a brand (my msp19u has been flawless since I got it years ago) , would anyone here recommend the Yiynova / Similar Other Brand smaller screen tablets? I'm looking for something vaguely portable to go with the laptop, so A4 size or so. Side buttons (like the 13hd) would be a massive plus.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
ive heard things about the artisul and xpen 10" tablets but have never used either

Chedranian Girl
Sep 15, 2008

IS THAT A WEAPON?
Thanks! I'm actually looking at this model right now: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06VW9TYWS/ref=psdc_430562031_t4_B01KPR4TZ4 - the XP-Pen Artist16 15.6 Inch - reviews are sort of mixed, but I've seen a lot of things that sound pretty positive about it and it wouldn't be my primary tablet (like I say, the MSP19U is my primary tablet, which I've never had a problem with apart from some colour issues which are easily fixed). It's a little larger than the 13HD which is a plus (the 10" model seems too small for me). Does anyone have any experience with this? I'll primarily be using Sai and Photoshop (mainly Sai).

Chedranian Girl fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jun 11, 2017

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

Chedranian Girl posted:

Hi guys! I'm getting a new laptop soon and I'm considering getting a Cintiq 13" to go with it. At the moment I have an old Bamboo that I'd like to hook up until I get some pennies saved for the Cintiq. Would it be possible to have both of these installed and use them interchangeably or should I uninstall the Bamboo when I buy the Cintiq? (I already have a Yiynova 19mspu attached to my desktop which is ace but I know there are wacom compatibility problems so I'd keep the Cintiq on the lappy).

Just keep the drivers installed unless there's a conflict, no need to uninstall the bamboo drivers if there's a possibility you'll use it again when you're on the road. I have an Intuos Pen & Touch and a Cintiq 13HD, haven't had any issues switching between them (I am not running Windows, though).

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
I'm using an Intuos Pro Medium to edit photos on a 27" iMac. However, it's taking up too much room on my desk. I was recommended to get a medium because I'm using it with a 27" screen. Would it be a problem to use a smaller tablet and, if not, which one should I get? I'm not a pro and I'm sure I could get by with a "less pro" tablet than the one I've got now. I've been looking at the Intuos Photo but people seem to say that the smaller tablets don't work that well with bigger screens.

Xabi fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Jun 16, 2017

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007
It's a matter of preference. The big issue is that with a smaller tablet, a tiny movement becomes huge on the screen. If you're making detailed linework or paintings this can lead to a lot of jagged edges and weird artifacts because any imperfections in your strokes get magnified onto the larger screen. Think blowing up a 300x400 .jpg you found on google into poster size.

If you're just doing basic photo touchup and nothing super detailed you should be fine.

Electricb7
Sep 7, 2012

>Hand over the jewels lady
Amazon has Razer Tartarus for $50. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZTRW00C?tag=slickdeals&ascsubtag=4e2a97c2636811e792d4a2e14e098be50INT&th=1

Highly recommend it for digital painting. Drastically speeds up workflow.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Man I wish Wacom's pens didnt start oozing from the rubber bits after a few years

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Synthbuttrange posted:

Man I wish Wacom's pens didnt start oozing from the rubber bits after a few years
All rubberized soft touch plastic does this and I hope to god they stop making that poo poo eventually. It's a plague.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Synthbuttrange posted:

Man I wish Wacom's pens didnt start oozing from the rubber bits after a few years

I had this on the top half of the stylus. I scraped it off down to the plastic, hit it with WD-40 to remove the residual stickiness then wiped the WD-40 away with brake cleaner.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I tried sanding and rubbing it off but yeah eventually just got a citrus based goo remover.

Office smells like oranges now and my pen's nice and nonsticky.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers

Synthbuttrange posted:

I tried sanding and rubbing it off but yeah eventually just got a citrus based goo remover.

Office smells like oranges now and my pen's nice and nonsticky.

Really? You better drat well believe I'll be trying this within the week.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I grabbed the Planet Ark Sticky Goo remover but any similar product should probably do.

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