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i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
The Detroit Red Wings will win a game in the 2017-2018 regular season.

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T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
I really hate how much interference you can run on forecheckers now, it's ugly to watch even if it theoretically saves d-men from getting lit up (another entertaining thing).

That Penguins team was one of the weirdest Cup winners I've ever seen. Surely they set the record for most games outshot in a playoffs by a Cup winning team. And then riding two separate goalies playing out of their minds, crazy.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

There used to be a guy who came by our local arena and would sell knock-off jerseys. He would buy big lots of them from China and then sell just the best quality ones in person. The rest he put on like on ebay or something. It cost $20-30 more than buying them yourself but you avoided the risk of a terrible one, and could see before you bought.

Even with the hand picked best examples you can tell the difference compared to a real one.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
The following things are true:

- Nashville is a really neat city in which I've thoroughly enjoyed myself on multiple trips both business and personal

- Nashville's fan base puts every other NHL team's fans to shame when it comes to fun and enthusiasm and Mike Milbury is a dipshit

- Hattie B's hot chicken is world class

- Mainstream country is embarrassingly bad but the best music being made in the world right now is coming out of Nashville

- This finals and playoffs in general sucked despite the Nashville fans' best efforts

- PK Subban is very good but every time I watch him I think he could be better than he is for some reason

- Sidney Crosby is the least fun and entertaining superstar player in any sport, and ever in ice hockey

- System hockey and oversized goalie equipment are the devil

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

gently caress the NHL, gently caress the pens, gently caress sports

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Fateo McMurray posted:

gently caress the NHL, gently caress the pens, gently caress sports

See you in October, then?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Next year will be different!!

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

No I'll be back to cheer when K.Miller goes to Vegas (:pray:) and to whine when the Bruins inevitably do something dumb

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I need Sweeney to give Pastrnak 6 mil a year for the next 5 or 6 years with a NTC and then I will feel good about being a Bruins fan for at least the entire next year.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I need Sweeney to give Pastrnak 6 mil a year for the next 5 or 6 years with a NTC and then I will feel good about being a Bruins fan for at least the entire next year.

Watching Bergevin drive the Habs into the ground won't be enough?

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Schlesische posted:

Watching Bergevin drive the Habs into the ground won't be enough?

Enough to keep the gun out of my mouth. Still not gonna be happy though.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/ryanreal/status/874249296069234689

I've seen 14 teams make the SCF in my 11 full seasons of hockey watchin' since Lockout 2: Gary Boogaloo. Of those, I've seen 6 teams win, and have only seen one team not named Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Los Angeles win since 2008.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

CBJSprague24 posted:

https://twitter.com/ryanreal/status/874249296069234689

I've seen 14 teams make the SCF in my 11 full seasons of hockey watchin' since Lockout 2: Gary Boogaloo. Of those, I've seen 6 teams win, and have only seen one team not named Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Los Angeles win since 2008.

We're essentially back to this:

'95 - Devils
'96 - Avalanche
'97 - Red Wings
'98 - Red Wings
'99 - Stars
'00 - Devils
'01 - Avalanche
'02 - Red Wings
'03 - Devils

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
And from 95-03 it was Devils/Red Wings/Avalanche/Stars.

And from 80-93 it was Oilers/Islanders/Canadiens/Penguins (well one Flames title but whatever).

And from 68-80 it was Canadiens/Flyers/Bruins.


that's hockey baby, yeah

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The salary cap didn't solve anything, disband the cheater Blackhawks and Penguins.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
The NHL had a good run of diversity starting with the Tampa cup.

Tampa
Carolina
Anaheim
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Chicago
Boston
LA

And they'll probably see another good run upcoming. Chicago (probably) and LA are done, and it's only a matter of time before Crosby is dead.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

93 minutes if everything goes to plan.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Aphrodite posted:

The salary cap didn't solve anything

Giving Jay Feaster and Don Maloney less money to work with sounded like a good idea on paper.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


What happens first, Crosby dying or the Caps (with or without Ovi) winning a cup?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

It's going to be simultaneous.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
If Letang is healthy the Pens have a good shot at a three peat too. Not a lot of significant roster turnover happening. Granted even if you're the best team you've got like a 15% chance of winning the cup or whatever so there is that.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

iospace posted:

What happens first, Crosby dying or the Caps (with or without Ovi) winning a cup?

Caps trade Ovi to Vegas, Vegas wins cup in first season, with Ovie scoring the game 7 OT winner in all 4 rounds.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

Ginette Reno posted:

If Letang is healthy the Pens have a good shot at a three peat too. Not a lot of significant roster turnover happening. Granted even if you're the best team you've got like a 15% chance of winning the cup or whatever so there is that.

Pens probably have room to add a defenseman, too, once Fleury is gone, yeah?

Edit:
gently caress, Pittsburgh is in great shape with the cap. They'll have to pay out a lot to RFAs soon but they're already 12m under and a lot of their older veteran contracts are expiring. And the Kessel/Malkin/Crosby/Letang/Murray core is locked in with great contracts.

gently caress Pittsburgh.

i am the bird fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 12, 2017

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I don't get why Fleury would voluntarily leave? Can anyone explain? I wholeheartedly understand why it'd be good for the Penguins, but he has a NMC and therefore should have everything in his control. Why leave a winning team?

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Ginette Reno posted:

If Letang is healthy the Pens have a good shot at a three peat too. Not a lot of significant roster turnover happening. Granted even if you're the best team you've got like a 15% chance of winning the cup or whatever so there is that.

True but the Penguins get a second round bye every year, so that helps

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

JollyPubJerk posted:

I don't get why Fleury would voluntarily leave?

Because otherwise he won't play.

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Eric the Mauve posted:

Because otherwise he won't play.

If Murray gets picked in the draft then Fleury would play

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

JollyPubJerk posted:

If Murray gets picked in the draft then Fleury would play

They'd just buy him out if he refuses to leave.

He definitely has control over where he wants to go though.

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.
I imagine Fleury's agent forces the buyout, because drat does he stand to make a ton of money.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
If I understand It correctly MAF has only a limited NMC and if he refuses a buyout the Penguins will just dump him on one of the 8 teams he leaves off his no trade list, eating his entire contract and giving something up to do so. That would be a lot less painful than paying Vegas a sky high price not to take Murray, and they ain't letting Murray go for nothing.

It's in MAF's best interests to accept a buyout and that's what he is going to do.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

JollyPubJerk posted:

I don't get why Fleury would voluntarily leave? Can anyone explain? I wholeheartedly understand why it'd be good for the Penguins, but he has a NMC and therefore should have everything in his control. Why leave a winning team?

fleury outright said murray is the goalie of the future for the penguins last night so why he'd leave or why not doesn't really matter - one way or another the penguins are almost surely going to be able to get through the expansion draft with murray and the form it takes is what's up in the air now.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



Duckman2008 posted:

Caps trade Ovi to Vegas, Vegas wins cup in first season, with Ovie scoring the game 7 OT winner in all 4 rounds.

I'd be okay with this.

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

Aphrodite posted:

The salary cap didn't solve anything, disband the cheater Blackhawks and Penguins.

it replaced "teams without money can't compete" with "teams that can't manage contracts can't compete"

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




JollyPubJerk posted:

If Murray gets picked in the draft then Fleury would play

Murray is ineligible as a first or second year pro

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Yeah gently caress the pens but they've done a very good job managing their contracts in the cap era

same goes for the Hawks (gently caress them too)

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Jonny Nox posted:

Murray is ineligible as a first or second year pro

No, the AHL counts.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

MononcQc posted:

it replaced "teams without money can't compete" with "teams that can't manage contracts can't compete"

2003 Blues: Spent $62 million, eliminated in round one
2005 Blues: Spent $28 million, finished dead last

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Eric the Mauve posted:

If I understand It correctly MAF has only a limited NMC and if he refuses a buyout the Penguins will just dump him on one of the 8 teams he leaves off his no trade list, eating his entire contract and giving something up to do so. That would be a lot less painful than paying Vegas a sky high price not to take Murray, and they ain't letting Murray go for nothing.

It's in MAF's best interests to accept a buyout and that's what he is going to do.

If he gets bought out he makes more money. I'm still struggling to see what his own downside is.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

flakeloaf posted:

2003 Blues: Spent $62 million, eliminated in round one
2005 Blues: Spent $28 million, finished dead last

Yeah but they tied for last with everyone else, which is true parity

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The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line
Mark Streit getting traded to a team that won the cup in his last year owns, owns twice as hard that he won't even get his name on it

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