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Finland's government is dissolving, we'll see if Sips can con Christians and Swedes into reforming it or if we are getting new elections.
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feedmegin posted:What, do they actually thing our lad is a straight up ISIS supporter or something? How does your brain even get there? It just means he hasn't been making GBS threads on Islam and/or Muslims enough for their taste. It goes hand-in-hand with the idea that Islamism is a 21st century equivalent to Nazism. Bonus BHL quote: Wikipedia posted:Bernard-Henri Lévy has described "Islamo-leftism" as, "this grand new alliance between the reds and the new browns, of the axis which runs from Le Monde diplomatique to the death squads,"[12] and as a sort of "anti-American religion."
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Kurtofan posted:Map of the second round What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists?
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Dommolus Magnus posted:What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists?
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Dommolus Magnus posted:What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists?
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/Le_Figaro/status/874222880040603648  like I can get why people wouldn't like Corbyn (  ), but treating him as some sort of extremist menace who will institute full islamocommienism now and throw everyone to the right of Pol Pot in an Irish gulag is just flat out ridiculous
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Orange Devil posted:Actually I think you'll be glad to hear that the media is reporting that France has been absolutely shocked to its core after being exposed to religious violence for the first time in its history these past 2 years.
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throw to first drat IT posted:Finland's government is dissolving, we'll see if Sips can con Christians and Swedes into reforming it or if we are getting new elections. The Swedish People's Party shouldn't take much convincing now that the True Finns are out. The Christian Democrats might be tougher call since nowadays the Coalition Party values don't align with theirs much at all but I don't doubt they'll find enough bones to throw at them. Whether that's enough of a majority is whole another matter. New elections might be best for everyone involved, except TF.
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Kassad posted:LOL if you're not rooting for the islamo-gulags Famous news sources have assured me that Corbyn wants to establish global homo-halal negrofeminist cuckocracy.
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/Le_Figaro/status/874222880040603648 quote:Gilles-William Goldnadel est avocat et écrivain. Il est président de l'association France-Israël. quelle surprise feedmegin posted:What, do they actually thing our lad is a straight up ISIS supporter or something? How does your brain even get there? he's an islamophobic israel shill Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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throw to first drat IT posted:Famous news sources have assured me that Corbyn wants to establish global homo-halal negrofeminist cuckocracy. Utopia, in other words.
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Dommolus Magnus posted:What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists? Proximity to Brussels.
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Dommolus Magnus posted:What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists? the belgians
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Dommolus Magnus posted:What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists? Mayonnaise
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Mayonnaise Look how wrong this post is.
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Dommolus Magnus posted:What is it about the belgian border that turns people into fascists? Nothing, they aren't fascists.
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Kurtofan posted:the belgians Specifically, the Wallonians.
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People registered a .lol URL to protest against Macron's planned https://loitravail.lol/ Macron's planned reform can basically be summed up as turning corporate owners into feudal lords.
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My new boss is a French woman who, in a moment of incredibly bad judgment, I engaged in political discussion. "My family is socialist and I've always voted socialist but. . .", She's excited because Macron is handsome and also it's a good thing he'll wreck the labour code because it is simply too hard to fire people now and that means the companies have no reason to hire people on proper contracts. :headdesk: e: also the unemployment rate will most definitely go down and we'll just invent new jobs, there not being enough work for everyone won't happen for another century or whatever SaltyJesus fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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The Government (of Finland) doesn't seem to have any obvious reasons to offer for dissolving the governing coalition, except seemingly "we don't like Halla-aho". He was offering to continue every government policy they already had in place without changes to any ministerial posts, so uhh... I guess this is their way of weaseling out of policies they themselves have been pursuing for the past couple of years? Or score some anti-Hallis points? I got no idea, but if their politics wasn't a problem up until now, I'm not really buying that Persu's electing a party secretary who wanted to continue with the same as before was really the breaking point here.
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lollontee posted:The Government (of Finland) doesn't seem to have any obvious reasons to offer for dissolving the governing coalition, except seemingly "we don't like Halla-aho". He was offering to continue every government policy they already had in place without changes to any ministerial posts, so uhh... I guess this is their way of weaseling out of policies they themselves have been pursuing for the past couple of years? Or score some anti-Hallis points? I got no idea, but if their politics wasn't a problem up until now, I'm not really buying that Persu's electing a party secretary who wanted to continue with the same as before was really the breaking point here. Best was the HS article that blamed Halla-aho for the dissolution because he agreed to every point. Not even something along lines that while he nominally agreed he would obviously push them much further and use his position to be racist, nope. Just straight up "Hallo-aho agreed to all demands so prime minister had no other option but to dissolve the government. Good move, thank you Sipilä". Like, ok?
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They probably didn't want to govern with the virulent racist (or more realistically thought that governing with him would affect their popularity). The TF are racist overall, but Halla-Aho is like really racist.
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Cat Mattress posted:Macron's planned reform can basically be summed up as turning corporate owners into feudal lords. Employees are no longer allowed to resign?
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SaltyJesus posted:My new boss is a French woman who, in a moment of incredibly bad judgment, I engaged in political discussion. "My family is socialist and I've always voted socialist but. . .", She's excited because Macron is handsome and also it's a good thing he'll wreck the labour code because it is simply too hard to fire people now and that means the companies have no reason to hire people on proper contracts. :headdesk: "socialist" in france doesn't mean much because of the neoliberal streak in the socialist party (rip) macron just ate the lunch of the neolibs in the ps and the moderate republicans. macron's movement is very much a continuation of hollande without the nasty left wing ps members shouting about labor rights
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Andrast posted:They probably didn't want to govern with the virulent racist (or more realistically thought that governing with him would affect their popularity). Oh, there was good chance that getting into bed with Hallis would have actually split their parties or caused new leadership elections. It certainly would have caused resulted Sipilä's and Orpo's party members giving them endless amount of poo poo, I'm not surprised at all they bailed out. I just found it funny that instead of mentioning any of this, the article straight up goes "Hallo-aho said that he thinks previously agreed upon coalition agreement is good and then in the talks he agreed to every point Sipilä and Orpo wanted. So this dissolution is his fault."
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Andrast posted:They probably didn't want to govern with the virulent racist (or more realistically thought that governing with him would affect their popularity). Nah, he's just unsubtle about actually professing his beliefs, he doesn't actually believe in anything that's out of line for the Persu. HS makes him out to be this huge devil figure since he's the designated racist number one, but you go and try to find a blog post of his that the average Persu / Centre party / Christian Democrat voter actually disagrees with and you'll be at it for a while. This is just a blatant cop-out by the Centre and Coalition parties from their own bloody policies. They noticed that everybody hated their politics so they thought it a good idea to resign and blame all the poo poo they've done for the past two years on the Persu. "No, honestly guys we're not really neoliberal asshats out to privatise everything in sight! It wasn't actually us who cut all university funding by half and hosed over the healthcare reform, it was all Persus! And look, it's all this guy who they elected just now who agrees with everything we've done for the past two years, he's the real reason for all the bad things we did and will continue to do!"
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lollontee posted:Nah, he's just unsubtle about actually professing his beliefs, he doesn't actually believe in anything that's out of line for the Persu. HS makes him out to be this huge devil figure since he's the designated racist number one, but you go and try to find a blog post of his that the average Persu / Centre party / Christian Democrat voter actually disagrees with and you'll be at it for a while. Public perception matters more than actual policies and Halla-Aho has definitely cultivated the racist number one image himself. lollontee posted:This is just a blatant cop-out by the Centre and Coalition parties from their own bloody policies. They noticed that everybody hated their politics so they thought it a good idea to resign and blame all the poo poo they've done for the past two years on the Persu. "No, honestly guys we're not really neoliberal asshats out to privatise everything in sight! It wasn't actually us who cut all university funding by half and hosed over the healthcare reform, it was all Persus! And look, it's all this guy who they elected just now who agrees with everything we've done for the past two years, he's the real reason for all the bad things we did and will continue to do!" They haven't blamed the TF for that in the slightest. In fact they will probably try to (essentially) continue this government with the KD and RKP in place of the TF.
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I think that as the radical left gains strength in popular and electoral support you're going to see the mask come off of a lot of folks who have been saying "we'd love left politics but it's just not electable" for the last few decades, and the revival of a fanatically hostile anti-left liberalism
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icantfindaname posted:I think that as the radical left gains strength in popular and electoral support you're going to see the mask come off of a lot of folks who have been saying "we'd love left politics but it's just not electable" for the last few decades, and the revival of a fanatically hostile anti-left liberalism Least I can enjoy that En Marche won on the back of abysmal turnout. America's greatest export: political apathy.
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Is there jam in the Islamo-gulags? Asking for a friend.
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GaussianCopula posted:Employees are no longer allowed to resign? That depends entirely on company policy. If the boss doesn't want his employees to resign, then they will not be allowed to do so.
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Phlegmish posted:I didn't even know France had Christian democrats Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Phlegmish posted:I didn't even know France had Christian democrats Not sure about the "democrats" part.
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lollontee posted:This is just a blatant cop-out by the Centre and Coalition parties from their own bloody policies. They noticed that everybody hated their politics so they thought it a good idea to resign and blame all the poo poo they've done for the past two years on the Persu. "No, honestly guys we're not really neoliberal asshats out to privatise everything in sight! It wasn't actually us who cut all university funding by half and hosed over the healthcare reform, it was all Persus! And look, it's all this guy who they elected just now who agrees with everything we've done for the past two years, he's the real reason for all the bad things we did and will continue to do!" #1 party in opinion polls right now: National Coalition #2 party in opinion polls right now: Center Party Everyone sure is pissed off at their policies. How will they ever cope with the unpopularity of being the top two parties and polling at pretty much the same levels that got them elected two years ago? And I'm pretty sure they're owning up to the healthcare (social services) reform because, well, it's actually a good policy proposal and the only people crying about them being a disaster are opposition politicians. Similarly, the cuts to education (which have been partially reversed later, making it a good policy by forcing universities to trim the fat and then giving them money back later) are pretty much a policy no one cares about except for reporters and students, it's just that as a permastudent, these are probably over-represented in your social circles. Kok and Kesk have the Finnish economy recording the highest growth in the Eurozone right now, so if there are new elections the remaining governing parties would probably be pretty happy to own the record of this government, especially when it's compared to the previous 2. If anything, they're going to be arguing that PS didn't do anything in government (which is sort of true). In short: stop  ing. PS elected a leader whose values aren't compatible with modern Finnish values, and Kok+Kesk kicked PS out of the government. I know this goes against your worldview of "everyone who doesnt vote LA is RACIST" but you'll just have to deal with it.
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