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Robbie Lawler and a bunch of other fighters have attributed much of their success to cutting back on sparring. Anecdotal evidence, but I'm gonna guess getting punched in the head less is good for you, especially if you're at somewhere like AKA.
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Southpaugh posted:This argument is taking place in the boxing thread rn and its inconclusive. Interesting stuff, thanks for the link
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I think football is more damaging to a persons brain than boxing/MMA, but punchsports still carry the risk of concussion. Unfortunately the people studying it don't know why some football players will have swiss cheese brains while some with near identical careers and head trauma will look completely normal.
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JaySB posted:It still kinda amazes me that the UFC Heavyweight division is a thing. Basically every single one of them could have chosen to say, play professional football for 500x the money. Brock Lesnar, probably the best physical talent the division has ever seen, couldn't make it onto an NFL team.
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The countless rounds of sparring are probably worse for fighters brains, overall, than the punches they take in fights. That more closely resembles what happens to linemen in football, who generally don't take the really brutal hits to the head, but still seem to have massive brain problems later in life. Concussions and getting knocked out aren't the only contributing factor to CTE. They may not even be the most important ones.
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Fat Twitter Man posted:Brock Lesnar, probably the best physical talent the division has ever seen, couldn't make it onto an NFL team. Brendan Schaub is just sitting there like  I'm not saying that any of the current UFC Heavyweights could hack it in the NFL. It just puzzles me that they choose to dedicate their lives to the lowest paying of the contact sports. There's a reason we haven't seen a great heavyweight boxer for a long time. These guys all decided they could try to make it to the NFL or NBA.
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JaySB posted:Brendan Schaub is just sitting there like They..... like it?
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JaySB posted:Brendan Schaub is just sitting there like take a look at derrick lewis going to town on some ribs pre-fight and tell me that he's "dedicated" his life to MMA.
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Fat Twitter Man posted:Brock Lesnar, probably the best physical talent the division has ever seen, couldn't make it onto an NFL team. I'm pretty sure he had never actually played organized football before either, so the fact that he almost walked on to a NFL team is pretty nuts.
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Brock has certainly done enough steroids to be in the NFL.
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JaySB posted:Brendan Schaub is just sitting there like they do it for the lulz
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canoshiz posted:I'm pretty sure he had never actually played organized football before either, so the fact that he almost walked on to a NFL team is pretty nuts. Stephen Neal beat Brock Lesnar in college wrestling then went on to play 9 seasons with the Patriots, winning a few super bowls in the process, despite not playing football on college. However...that's not a normal thing and playing NFL or even high level collegiate football is really hard and it implying that any heavyweight could have just played another sport and made more money is really silly.
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canoshiz posted:I'm pretty sure he had never actually played organized football before either, so the fact that he almost walked on to a NFL team is pretty nuts. my point was that there's a lot of skill other than being big strong and fast and that not everyone big strong and fast can play football
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canoshiz posted:I'm pretty sure he had never actually played organized football before either, so the fact that he almost walked on to a NFL team is pretty nuts. He played in high school.
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Offensive lineman is basically wrestling anyways which is part of why Neal was so loving good at it.
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mma fans dont know poo poo about football
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Fat Twitter Man posted:Brock Lesnar, probably the best physical talent the division has ever seen, couldn't make it onto an NFL team. Brock Lesnar immediantly made it onto a nfl team by saying he'd like to be on a NFL team, as a 30 something man who hadn't played football in over a decade, then chose to quit and do MMA because they wouldn't make him a starter.
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Then he was UFC champion 4 fights later.
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JaySB posted:It just puzzles me that they choose to dedicate their lives to the lowest paying of the contact sports. There's a reason we haven't seen a great heavyweight boxer for a long time. These guys all decided they could try to make it to the NFL or NBA. Fighting is fun, its not a chore. Plenty of people do it purely for entertainment and don't ever want to become competitive.
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I.N.R.I posted:frankly its not that easy to switch from 1 sport to another even if you happen to be good at both. because you will be competing with people whove done the sport since they were children. additionally maybe someone would rather make a career in the sport that pays less but they happen to enjoy more. you die at the end of your life anyway so theres no point doing a job that you hate It really really really depends on the sport. Some sports are relatively easy to transfer into at an elite level and don't require an awful lot of sport specific training and rather require you to be strong, fast, and/or powerful (bobsled from sprinting/football/etc, powerlifting from gymnastics/football/shot put etc). There are positions in football that have lower barrier to entries skill wise and you can get to at or around the elite level if you are just an extravagantly burly boy
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Fat Twitter Man posted:Brock Lesnar, probably the best physical talent the division has ever seen, couldn't make it onto an NFL team. Iirc he got an NFL Europe offer despite not having much football experience
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Another good example is Clara Hughes, who rode the bike and won Olympic medals. This led to her having the sport specific skill of "giant quads" and she started speed skating and used somehow transfered this intangible skill into winning gold medals in speed skating.
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Ex UFC fighter turned elctro pop dancer has got a pretty big brand deal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XRaMP4QPwU
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Work Friend Keven posted:Brock Lesnar immediantly made it onto a nfl team by saying he'd like to be on a NFL team, as a 30 something man who hadn't played football in over a decade, then chose to quit and do MMA because they wouldn't make him a starter. Hard to believe a man would pass on a chance to play for the prestigious NFL Europe Vikings.
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If you're born into a large body, you're given a choice: become a Football lineman, an MMA heavyweight fighter or an Enterprise Rent-A-Car Account Executive III
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david carmichael posted:Another good example is Clara Hughes, who rode the bike and won Olympic medals. This led to her having the sport specific skill of "giant quads" and she started speed skating and used somehow transfered this intangible skill into winning gold medals in speed skating. thats not such a good example because track cycling, time trialling and speed skating are extremely similar in a lot more ways than just requiring bigass quads+glutes, even the tactical nuances of one sport are relevant to the other, theyre raced in very similar ways and the logistics of speed skating mean a lot of their training is done on a bike anyway. theres a long history of athletes switching successfully between the two. not to mention shes a singular talent in a sea of lesser talent and hardly a case study of how easy it is for the average professional athlete to go from 1 world class discipline to another. its not so easily done at the professional level. maybe at the high school level
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big money big clit posted:Hard to believe a man would pass on a chance to play for the prestigious NFL Europe Vikings. He was on the Vikings my dude.
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Work Friend Keven posted:He was on the Vikings my dude. He was on the Vikings for like two pre-season games and then got cut and offered a shot in NFL Europe.
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willie_dee posted:Fighting is fun, its not a chore. Plenty of people do it purely for entertainment and don't ever want to become competitive. Yes, I get that. However, we are discussing people choosing it as their profession not for their leisure activity.
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Mayweather promotions just reserved the MGM Grand for August 26th
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willie_dee posted:Ex UFC fighter turned elctro pop dancer has got a pretty big brand deal It looks like they just showed up and robbed an unattended watch store.
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I.N.R.I posted:thats not such a good example because track cycling, time trialling and speed skating are extremely similar in a lot more ways than just requiring bigass quads+glutes, even the tactical nuances of one sport are relevant to the other, theyre raced in very similar ways and the logistics of speed skating mean a lot of their training is done on a bike anyway. theres a long history of athletes switching successfully between the two. not to mention shes a singular talent in a sea of lesser talent and hardly a case study of how easy it is for the average professional athlete to go from 1 world class discipline to another. its not so easily done at the professional level. maybe at the high school level Yeah I only thought of Clara because I was really thinking of bobsled and powerlifting where an enormous part is bigass asses. I'm just saying that there is a lot of sports that are transferable to other sports at near-elite and elite levels. Obviously it's not happening every day and the herschel walkers are stupendous athletes. But there are people who have low level professional success at sports that they haven't done enormous amounts of sport specific training for just because there is a large overlap in required skills and training protocols
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i don't know how much of what i was told is under nda but the nfl are putting money into making a new kind of helmet that will let 300lb men run into each other head first more than ever before, it's really cool and also a bad idea
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Rigel posted:Mayweather promotions just reserved the MGM Grand for August 26th Oh poo poo businessinsider.com/two-developments-in-the-floyd-mayweather-v-conor-mcgregor-saga-suggest-a-fight-announcement-is-imminent-2017-6 don't click that, you need to disable ad block  quote:In the space of 24 hours, there have been two big developments:
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i absolutely don't give a poo poo about that fight but if it happens then i'm happy both those guys can stave off bankruptcy for another 6 months after the end of their careers
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Triticum Guzzler posted:i absolutely don't give a poo poo about that fight but if it happens then i'm happy both those guys can stave off bankruptcy for another 6 months after the end of their careers lol
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Jun 12, 2017 21:32
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Triticum Guzzler posted:i absolutely don't give a poo poo about that fight but if it happens then i'm happy both those guys can stave off bankruptcy for another 6 months after the end of their careers Same
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Are you guys excited to see Roy Jones Jr. fight Floyd Mayweather on Butterbean's shoulders like that Frankenstein/Flea Man boss for Castlevania on Nintendo?
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kensei posted:Oh poo poo Kill my dead rear end.
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