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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Chilichimp posted:

What? Did the Secret Service perform this function for Nixon or something? Why would the SS be in charge of recording or transcribing oval office conversations?

they're getting out of the way, so when it's revealed that trump was recording the secret service has some cover

:tinfoil:

gently caress, dog tax i just got home

skylined! fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 12, 2017

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NoDamage
Dec 2, 2000

Night10194 posted:

I legitimately don't understand their lust for death.
None of this will affect them directly, and they lack the empathy to care about how it affects other people. Therefore tax cuts to them are more important than other people's health.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

poo poo ton of Republicans are going to die. Red states are going to get hit the hardest.
This is unfortunate, but hopefully it makes them realize they need to stop voting red if they don't want to keep getting hosed over. That's the only way I can see us getting out of this mess. If, on the other hand, they lose their health care and still decide to keep voting red, then we're all loving doomed.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

NoDamage posted:

This is unfortunate, but hopefully it makes them realize they need to stop voting red if they don't want to keep getting hosed over. That's the only way I can see us getting out of this mess. If, on the other hand, they lose their health care and still decide to keep voting red, then we're all loving doomed.

loving lol, of course they will keep voting red. Because even after their politicians take away their healthcare, they will find a way to blame their problems on illegals, Muslims and blacks.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Single issue abortion voters.

We care about you until birth.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Prosperity gospel has them convinced they're dirty shameful sinners if they're poor.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
But they're not poor, just temporary embarrassed bigbillionaires that will get rich any day now. So they're making sure they dont tax themselves.

Dogwood Fleet
Sep 14, 2013

Jaxyon posted:

Single issue abortion voters.

We care about you until birth.

Unless any kind of prenatal care or providing reasonable accommodations are involved.

NoDamage
Dec 2, 2000

enraged_camel posted:

loving lol, of course they will keep voting red. Because even after their politicians take away their healthcare, they will find a way to blame their problems on illegals, Muslims and blacks.
Yeah, this is what I'm afraid of... :(

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I don't know why this has to be brought up constantly, but low income voters are mostly Democratic and at best are split pretty evenly. Meanwhile, Trump won the middle class suburbanite vote. These are people who primarily won't be affected by any of this (too poor to benefit significantly from tax cuts, well off enough to probably be on employer sponsored healthcare) loving over poor people.

edit- employer sponsored healthcare plans are probably getting hosed here too though so lol

Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 12, 2017

Gorelab
Dec 26, 2006

Honestly, it feels in the last 8 years the Republicans have stopped being the business party and have basically becoming beholden to a bunch of crazy rear end billionaires who are way worse than the corporations because they're absolute fanatics about this poo poo.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Gorelab posted:

Honestly, it feels in the last 8 years the Republicans have stopped being the business party and have basically becoming beholden to a bunch of crazy rear end billionaires who are way worse than the corporations because they're absolute fanatics about this poo poo.

Um yeah actually.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Gorelab posted:

Honestly, it feels in the last 8 years the Republicans have stopped being the business party and have basically becoming beholden to a bunch of crazy rear end billionaires who are way worse than the corporations because they're absolute fanatics about this poo poo.

Too bad nobody foresaw that massive wealth inequality would lead to this

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




The free market always wins.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

The GOP is not the party of business, they are the party of neo-feudalism

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
As usual Democrats completely suck at the messaging war. I still don't see much use of the term "Trumpcare" which is what the AHCA should really be called.

I hope when people start dying from losing insurance they know well enough then who's to blame for it and not some nebulous acronym.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Fart City posted:

I was speaking more broadly in terms of a terrorist attack or natural disaster, but yeah, Qatar is a pretty good test case of Trump's inability to deescalate a crisis.

https://youtu.be/EYsM6dKS-RE

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Charliegrs posted:

As usual Democrats completely suck at the messaging war. I still don't see much use of the term "Trumpcare" which is what the AHCA should really be called.

I hope when people start dying from losing insurance they know well enough then who's to blame for it and not some nebulous acronym.

They need to hang it around the republican party's neck, not trump.

Trump is digging his own grave.

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer

NoDamage posted:

This is unfortunate, but hopefully it makes them realize they need to stop voting red if they don't want to keep getting hosed over. That's the only way I can see us getting out of this mess. If, on the other hand, they lose their health care and still decide to keep voting red, then we're all loving doomed.

Why do you think their communities became poor and addicted to opioids in the first place?

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
This thread loves the easy answer that everyone is just evil monsters but the US really does have legitimately super hosed health care and most people really did see their healthcare get sharply worse over the last decade. Obamacare isn't a healthcare system, it was a really tiny adjustment that helped a little bit in some cases with some regulations on certain things. It was a good thing and it's good it happened, but there is a lot of non evil people that have been really hosed over by what is happening in US healthcare year by year and there is plenty reason people are lashing out to vote for something different other than "they are subhumans" since neither party is offering good answers that actually help them.

Like democrat or republican the average health insurance premium has grown 190% since 1999, people on high deductible plans went from 8% to 55% and drug costs rose a bajillion percent. Bush didn't slow this down, obama didn't slow this down, neither party is offering anything except "just have faith, our plan isn't helping you now but later on we'll give you the good plan that totally will!"

Like republicans are flat out wrong that their answer is right, but it's pretty easy to see why normal non satan people would want to go looking for something other than what we have.

Classtoise
Feb 11, 2008

THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

I hate to accidentally defend a Nazi, but I think that second photo might be someone making fun of them; it's "A Thing" to insist that you shouldn't punch "people you disagree with" (AKA Nazi assholes like Dick Spencer) because it's wrong. I think that dude was just making a joke like "Oh look. Shooting people who 'disagree with you'", taking it to the comedic extreme.

But that doesn't mean the tweet isn't still 100% right and there aren't assholes legitimately whining about it.

enraged_camel posted:

Heh. TD has no mention of:

  • Sessions' upcoming testimony
  • Maryland and DC's lawsuit
  • Travel ban losing in the appears court

It does, however, have this, which is so :ironicat: it made me laugh out loud:



edit: the OP also doesn't know the difference between a congressman and a senator, which makes it even funnier

This is like that one political cartoon where the kid is with a straight couple and then a gay couple and there's no other changes (he's still happy, etc)

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Classtoise posted:

I hate to accidentally defend a Nazi, but I think that second photo might be someone making fun of them; it's "A Thing" to insist that you shouldn't punch "people you disagree with" (AKA Nazi assholes like Dick Spencer) because it's wrong. I think that dude was just making a joke like "Oh look. Shooting people who 'disagree with you'", taking it to the comedic extreme.

But that doesn't mean the tweet isn't still 100% right and there aren't assholes legitimately whining about it.

also lol that the first alt right shithead is calling for more ethnic diversity and multicultural representation in games

Skex
Feb 22, 2012

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Paradoxish posted:

I don't know why this has to be brought up constantly, but low income voters are mostly Democratic and at best are split pretty evenly. Meanwhile, Trump won the middle class suburbanite vote. These are people who primarily won't be affected by any of this (too poor to benefit significantly from tax cuts, well off enough to probably be on employer sponsored healthcare) loving over poor people.

edit- employer sponsored healthcare plans are probably getting hosed here too though so lol

So the Republican's attempt to kill the poors is literally their solution to demographics?

Here I thought they were just stupid and banal rather than outright evil.

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib
WWE

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
relevant somehow

https://twitter.com/dril/status/874390753212080130

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

my bony fealty posted:

The GOP is not the party of business, they are the party of neo-feudalism

Seriously. Anyone who believes GOP was at any point in time the party of business has stupidly bought into their messaging.

"Business" was simply the front they used for their lovely racist and sexist policies. If a particular policy was beneficial for businesses, that was a coincidental side effect (which they happily capitalized on), not the goal.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

enraged_camel posted:

loving lol, of course they will keep voting red. Because even after their politicians take away their healthcare, they will find a way to blame their problems on illegals, Muslims and blacks.

One thing a lot of people in this thread forget is that these voters don't actually understand how progressive taxation works. They think if a rich dude gets taxed 35% then that 35% applies to all their income and not just the income over a certain amount. I have had to explain how it works to a ton of people, most of them who have been paying taxes for decades without understanding the concept. It blows their loving minds once they understand it and some, but not all, change their stance on taxes at least somewhat once they do understand.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
I liked that guy using "Nationalistsocialist" code word before straight out saying Nazi.

Also lol that the only diversity he wants is diversity in people to kill in his video games. Reminds me of the Golden One playing Skyrim and role playing as himself (a nord, obv) killing all the feminist and SJW bandits.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

a mere three months after trump abruptly fired every sitting us attorney, all 93 of them, he has finally picked new ones

well, 8 new ones

the other 85 vacancies can stay vacant for a while longer

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib
Deer

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

evilweasel posted:

a mere three months after trump abruptly fired every sitting us attorney, all 93 of them, he has finally picked new ones

well, 8 new ones

the other 85 vacancies can stay vacant for a while longer

Look how many new jobs he's created.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Ularg posted:

Reminds me of the Golden One playing Skyrim and role playing as himself (a nord toxic dildo, obv) killing all the feminist and SJW bandits.

There we go.

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
what's worse, donald trump or creed

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/874394318127087618
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/874394709669535744
https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett/status/874397038200410113
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/874356232173256704
https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/874362202857369600
https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/874360340972175360

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/874387045073944579
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/464217937516040193

Uncleanly Cleric
Oct 17, 2005


Low Desert Punk posted:

what's worse, donald trump or creed

Unanswerable philosophical questions are in another thread.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
I keep getting ALCU emails about calling my reps or whatever regarding tomorrows hearing with Sessions. Is calling worth the hassle, even if I'm in deep blue California?

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


evilweasel posted:

a mere three months after trump abruptly fired every sitting us attorney, all 93 of them, he has finally picked new ones

well, 8 new ones

the other 85 vacancies can stay vacant for a while longer

why are the Democrats obstructing the predisent from appointing new judges?!?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

D-Pad posted:

One thing a lot of people in this thread forget is that these voters don't actually understand how progressive taxation works. They think if a rich dude gets taxed 35% then that 35% applies to all their income and not just the income over a certain amount. I have had to explain how it works to a ton of people, most of them who have been paying taxes for decades without understanding the concept. It blows their loving minds once they understand it and some, but not all, change their stance on taxes at least somewhat once they do understand.

This reminds me of this one time an acquaintance who was a young aeronautical engineer bragged about how he was so smart for turning down a raise at his job because it would put him in a higher tax bracket and reduce his take-home pay. I had to interject and explain to him in front of everyone at the table that tax brackets don't work that way.

Turns out his company was going around brazenly lying to their employees during annual performance review time, the talking point being "well we are thinking about giving you a 5% raise but we wanted to run it by you first because you would actually end up making less money... so it's up to you, let us know if you want it." And a lot of employees were young and ignorant so they were just turning it down and waiting for another year, hoping the raise then would actually be "large enough to offset the increase in taxes" or some bullshit.

The thing is that this dude was quite liberal. But he was also young and naive and had made the mistake of trusting the first real authority figure in his adult life, i.e. his boss. So it's not just conservatives who don't get taxes. It's conservatives, and anyone else they can con.

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006
Im sorry to be that person, but due to moving Ive been in a news blackout. Can anyone tell me what page did the comey senate session statrt? Id like to backtrack a bit

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

It would be really awesome if Megyn Kelly burns out in like 2 months on NBC because she can't adjust to life outside of Fox News.

Except based on the Brian Williams precedent that means she'll be punished by hosting 11 PM on MSNBC.

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Gaj posted:

Im sorry to be that person, but due to moving Ive been in a news blackout. Can anyone tell me what page did the comey senate session statrt? Id like to backtrack a bit

There is/was a separate thread just for the Comey session which probably had most of the discussion.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3823090

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