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I thought the movie was about an alien I dunno what the gently caress I was smoking.
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reignofevil posted:Sometimes in horror movies unpleasant things and themes happen tho right? I don't care where you're going with this. The fact is, the Alien franchise is based on sexually coded violence. Obviously. And Alien and Aliens have one message about it, and Alien 3 has an extremely different message about it. And because Alien 3 is nominally a sequel to the first two and the conclusion of Ripley's story, and undoes the extremely positive message of those movies. I consider that more than enough cause to say Alien 3 is lovely. If you think that Alien 3 is great because the director's cut isn't as boring as the theatrical cut, or because it's ridiculously grim and mean-spirited and you like that, or because you just love pointless jesus imagery shoved into a movie for no reason, that's fine.
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Guy Goodbody posted:undoes the extremely positive message of those movies. good
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't care where you're going with this. That's mean but it's honest so I'll accept it.
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positive things don't belong in horror, horror should always be about drowning in misery and everything being horrible and lovely and not be fun, human centipede series is a masterpiece of horror
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Hemingway To Go! posted:positive things don't belong in horror, horror should always be about drowning in misery and everything being horrible and lovely and not be fun, human centipede series is a masterpiece of horror *thumbs way up*
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't care where you're going with this. The fact is, the Alien franchise is based on sexually coded violence. Obviously. And Alien and Aliens have one message about it, and Alien 3 has an extremely different message about it. And because Alien 3 is nominally a sequel to the first two and the conclusion of Ripley's story, and undoes the extremely positive message of those movies. I consider that more than enough cause to say Alien 3 is lovely. cry more loser The brooding nihilism of Alien 3 was much needed in the series after James Cameron's predictable (all important characters make it out alive) ending. Alien 3 also returned the xenomorph back into the terrifying stalker killing machine of the original instead of redshirt space bugs.
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Veshpo posted:IIRC was a writer on a bad early draft of Toy Story where they were all unlikable shitbags, especially Woody. there're several DVD commentaries where somebody says something like "Joss wanted to kill ______ here, and we (or his friends or the producers or the studio) had to fight pretty hard to talk him out of it. he loves darkness and wants everybody to be miserable" and joss is always like "yes, that is true." that's why everybody dies in serenity. nobody was there to stop him. and dr horrible. and cabin in the woods. and agent coulson. and not for story telling reasons obviously since he just brought him back there was even a character from the first season of angel that only existed because whedon wanted to kill off a cast member who had an opening credit since like the first season of buffy, and he finally got to do it by making a character specifically to seem important and likable and then die. he probably wanted iron man to die, or pepper potts. he probably spent his time on Roseanne trying to kill. every script he turns in just like "no, Joss, we aren't going to let you kill Becky."
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Jun 13, 2017 04:51
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I mean it waaaaas becky and all.
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I'm sad that my lovecraft-inspired horror franchise set in a bleak corporate dystopia didn't have a happy ending.
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I was hoping Ripley would become prom queen. Bullshit franchise.
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Baronjutter posted:I'm sad that my lovecraft-inspired horror franchise set in a bleak corporate dystopia didn't have a happy ending. Now more than ever, young girls need to see that a strong female protagonist can defeat the penis-shaped mouth rape monster.
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WampaLord posted:Avengers is good I'm not here to defend my stance that The Avengers was one of the most mediocre entries in the entire MCU. All I'm claiming is that the writing was ENDLESS TRASH.
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Veshpo posted:Now more than ever, young girls need to see that a strong female protagonist can defeat the penis-shaped mouth rape monster. RedSpider fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 05:11
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Alien3 hosed up by not hiring Bob Hoskins for the warden.
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Avengers was so hellbent on having bad Joss Whedon dialogue that every character is telepathic and the world ending is a comedy romp for people with families and loved ones. Avengers making every character Tony Stark is only slightly less dumb than DC making every character grimdark broody angerface except the lovable wacky sidekick Batman.
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a bone to pick posted:RAPE guys, it was about RAPE. She went from being RAPED to being ULTRA RAPED. But enough about Jessica Jones
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vermin posted:But enough about Jessica Jones jessica jones wasn't about rape, stop reading so much into things
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Jun 13, 2017 05:55
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"Everything is about rape, except rape." -Frank Underwood, television president
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Isn't everything mostly lighthearted comedy romp in the comics as well? Generally speaking? You'll have a world eating entity about to chomp down on some city and spiderman will make a quip or deadpool will fart loudly or whatever
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Fartbox posted:Isn't everything mostly lighthearted comedy romp in the comics as well? Generally speaking? what? no, superhero comics are about rape    
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I reckon the avengers could use a pinch more rape Maybe have Thor embrace his viking roots and just rape and enslave everyone
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Space Taxi posted:I was hoping Ripley would become prom queen. Bullshit franchise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzr8n3jYYD4
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Jun 13, 2017 07:27
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Why exactly does the spooky gooey monster movie have to be a sensitive and nuanced discussion about how rape survivors cope
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Jun 13, 2017 07:46
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Hulk and Thor battling eachother for the prize of raping one another
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Each grointhrust sending out shockwaves shattering the buildings nearby
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Zzulu posted:Hulk and Thor battling eachother for the prize of raping one another Does that make it consensual? These universes are getting so complicated edit: Hulkbuster
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Cubone posted:there was even a character from the first season of angel that only existed because whedon wanted to kill off a cast member who had an opening credit since like the first season of buffy, and he finally got to do it by making a character specifically to seem important and likable and then die. This is wrong, by the way. Dude playing him was a junkie and left to go try get clean.
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Slammed in the rear end by old horror movies.
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Tony Stark working tirelessly on a new ironman hulkbuster suit with a pneumatic cock large enough to finally penetrate the Hulk... To read more of my literature and the exciting continuation of Tony Starks efforts, please visit my webzone https://www.eugenicsisthefuture.net
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The Rabbi T. White posted:This is wrong, by the way. Dude playing him was a junkie and left to go try get clean. that doesn't help with the narrative I was building
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Jun 13, 2017 08:34
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Rape is bad, but get this, Alien 3 was just kind of subpar. Unlike anime. Anime is loving trash.
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Also, more like Tony Snark.
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Jun 13, 2017 09:35
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More like Tony Fart
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Paladinus posted:Unlike anime. Anime is loving trash. Utena was pretty good.
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Jun 13, 2017 09:43
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More like Phony Shart.
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As a rape survivor, my life was changed for the better after viewing the life affirming message of strength and hope sensitively discussed in the critically acclaimed rubber monster suit movies alien and aliens 2. Imagine my distress when I popped aliens 3 into the vcr, ready to receive more therapeutic aid to help me, a rape survivor, find the 'new normal'. As this latest installment unfolded before my horrified eyes I realized the awful truth.... Instead of helping, watching this movie was like being raped all over agin!
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In safe-space, no one can hear you REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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