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Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Red_Fred posted:

Does anyone daily drive a 928? How ridiculous of an idea is that? I've lusted after one of these for so long and feel like I just need to do it. They seem to be going up in price and aren't getting any younger.

With living in an apartment I can't work on anything myself (which would be my ideal) so I would need to get stuff done by a shop. How much would I be looking at yearly?

It's a bad idea without a backup. They're not time bombs or anything but they're old rare touring cars that don't share a whole lot with other models either so I'd never trust one enough to be a DD. Primary car if I had a backup, sure as long as I had a couple thousand set aside for repairs and maintenance per year.

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Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



And just like that, my boxster is no longer mine.

Threw it up on Thursday for $23.5k, took it out for a test drive on Friday, cash changed hands Saturday morning. Sold it for $21k. I definitely expected it to sit through the summer and selling for less next spring.

Picked it up for $14.5k, drove it 10 months, 10k km and put in about 4.5k in maintenance and ' nice to have' things. So $2k in the black and I still have the winter wheels to sell.

05 Boxster base, U.S. Car, 175k km, original IMS.



I miss it already :(

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Wait, how the gently caress did you pick that up for 14.5k

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



BlackMK4 posted:

Wait, how the gently caress did you pick that up for 14.5k

Good negotiator? It wasn't perfect, hence the $4.5k of assorted maintenance, and it left me stranded on the drive home from Ontario due to a waterpump failure. High km, original ims, base model, and being a us import don't help the value that much. With how quick I sold it maybe I should have held my ground more on the price. Too late now.

On the plus side I don't have to worry about costly unexpected repairs or the ims, and I had a blast, especially with the recent 6k km I put on driving in the Canadian Rockies the other week.

Already looking through Kijiji for another convertible, probably going to start being more serious around August to get one for next season.

TacoHavoc
Dec 31, 2007
It's taco-y and havoc-y...at the same time!

Jymmybob posted:

Honestly in the 20-25 range I'd be looking at Caymans and Boxsters unless you need the rear seat for something. There will be a little more depreciation but then again you'll have a few years newer car.

S0 I took this advice, but boxsters only since I'm interested in a convertible. Seems like you're right, I'm looking at a 2006-2008 boxster/boxster S for that 25k instead of a 2000ish 911. I'm north of Philly in the Bethlehem/Allentown area but if I set a 250ish mile radius there seems to be quite a bit out there.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bajaha posted:

I miss it already :(
Well, fix this by buying another Porsche!

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-of-toronto/2002-porsche-boxster-s/1269755678

This one seems interesting, 'new' engine, all sorts of work done, I talked to the guy and he bought it from the original owner after they had the IMS failure. So he put all the work into it after the fact

Thoughts?

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



slidebite posted:

Well, fix this by buying another Porsche!

Already searching Kijiji for the next one. I really want to get a 911 carrera convertible like we got for the wedding, but I don't think my budget of under $35k is realistic, maybe by fall I can finagle a good deal.

E: thoughts on this one: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/cornwall-on/beautiful-2005-boxster-s/1261807310

Thinking if I can talk him down a touch and the car proof checks out, might be a nice small step up from first one.

Bajaha fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jun 4, 2017

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Elephanthead posted:

The prospect of this is frightening. Finding a shop that is competent is probably impossible. Anyway your best bet is finding one that someone has spent a ton of money on and now realizes that making bad choices does not need to continue forever.

That said I am calling the guy with the ebay 911 that has been half way to the moon and has the engine the just explodes at random times because race car.

Jymmybob posted:

It's a bad idea without a backup. They're not time bombs or anything but they're old rare touring cars that don't share a whole lot with other models either so I'd never trust one enough to be a DD. Primary car if I had a backup, sure as long as I had a couple thousand set aside for repairs and maintenance per year.

Yeah I suspected as much. What about daily driving a 944? I don't actually need a car to get to work or anything but being without one for weeks at a time could be annoying.

I might see if I convince my parents to provide part of their garage for me.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bajaha posted:

Already searching Kijiji for the next one. I really want to get a 911 carrera convertible like we got for the wedding, but I don't think my budget of under $35k is realistic

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/edmonton/1999-porsche-911-carrera-convertible/1269543672?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Red_Fred posted:

Yeah I suspected as much. What about daily driving a 944? I don't actually need a car to get to work or anything but being without one for weeks at a time could be annoying.

I might see if I convince my parents to provide part of their garage for me.

Much better especially since parts and info are much more available plus the car itself is much cheaper. You can get a nice S2, 951 or maybe even 968 for low end 928 money.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

Red_Fred posted:

Yeah I suspected as much. What about daily driving a 944? I don't actually need a car to get to work or anything but being without one for weeks at a time could be annoying.

I might see if I convince my parents to provide part of their garage for me.

Just buy one that is LS swapped. The solution to every automotive problem. Applies to 928 and 944.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Elephanthead posted:

Just buy one that is LS swapped. The solution to every automotive problem. Applies to 928 and 944.

So right, also applies to anything with an M96 engine because it's cheaper in the long run plus much more fun. Also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjeKSumjcRA

DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


Jymmybob posted:

So right, also applies to anything with an M96 engine because it's cheaper in the long run plus much more fun. Also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjeKSumjcRA

Holy poo poo.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Porsche overengineering appreciation items on the 986:
- aforementioned sturdy popout cupholder
- the lightest weight battery tiedown system solution I've seen, though this one's a stretch
- really nicely placed and marked frunk/trunk releases:

Given their location, they press inward instead of downward to activate. Wise.

- instead of having several intermittent wiper settings on the stalk, Porsche gives you 24 (I think) finely spaced ticks on a separate knob:

This is so Porsche it's astonishing.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
So I got a set of new hood struts for the 944, and I can't compress them by hand. I read somewhere online that eight hours in the freezer does the trick. I hope they're right.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Can't you just take both old ones off and open the lid more to line up the new ones?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Yeah I have replaced lots of gas supports, including the 996 and have literally never needed to compress any of them .

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

kimbo305 posted:

Can't you just take both old ones off and open the lid more to line up the new ones?

Probably, I was hoping to do a side at a time and avoid risking the hood falling onto the windshield.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
I think you might be giving the hood too much credit for stiffness.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Your hood shouldn't be going over vertical so it shouldn't hit the windshield. Just use a broomstick or something to prop it up and go nuts.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Red_Fred posted:

Yeah I suspected as much. What about daily driving a 944? I don't actually need a car to get to work or anything but being without one for weeks at a time could be annoying.

I did it for the last 7 years or so.

I bought it for parts, it turned out to be better than that, so I did EVERYTHING that needed doing - 100% up to date on maintenance.

In those 7 years I've been through one rear wheel bearing and a wiper motor as far as unscheduled repairs go.

That being said, I still wouldn't drive one unless I was doing my own work. Daily or otherwise.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Motronic posted:

That being said, I still wouldn't drive one unless I was doing my own work. Daily or otherwise.
Porsche Thread: Don't drive one unless you do your own work

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



slidebite posted:

Porsche Thread: Don't drive one unless you do your own work

This needs to be the thread title, it's due for a refresh.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
I should get a book time quote for that heater core replacement I did. Curious if a dealer would gouge for it.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



kimbo305 posted:

I should get a book time quote for that heater core replacement I did. Curious if a dealer would gouge for it.

Local dealer wants $400 for an oil change on my former boxster, gouging is an integral part of the dealership service experience.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Bajaha posted:

This needs to be the thread title, it's due for a refresh.

Seconded

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Wait when I read Rennlist everyone is a jerk when someone does their own work and makes the slightest mistake, and then if anyone says they are just taking it to the dealer for service they are chastised for being checkbook owners. I think Porsche owners are just all jerks, and since I am a jerk I think I should own one.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Elephanthead posted:

Wait when I read Rennlist everyone is a jerk when someone does their own work and makes the slightest mistake, and then if anyone says they are just taking it to the dealer for service they are chastised for being checkbook owners. I think Porsche owners are just all jerks, and since I am a jerk I think I should own one.

specialist specialist SPECIALIST

DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


Awesome deal on a 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2, $17999
No idea about the miles.


https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/6165824109.html

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Feels fishy. Yeah, it talks about the toolkit and jack, but the scant rest of the ad is fairly scammy.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Replaced my hood struts yesterday. Yeah, it was stupid easy. Internet Forums made it seem like the hood could flip over, and that the passenger side was hard to do with the battery in the way, and you had to freeze the struts (which I did but it was unnecessary) etc... loving did it in five minutes with a screwdriver.

Anyway, dropped it off at the specialist to do the timing belt and camshaft belt and whatever else the front end might need. Seems like a good place. We'll see. :homebrew:

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

CornHolio posted:

Replaced my hood struts yesterday. Yeah, it was stupid easy. Internet Forums made it seem like the hood could flip over, and that the passenger side was hard to do with the battery in the way, and you had to freeze the struts (which I did but it was unnecessary) etc... loving did it in five minutes with a screwdriver.

Anyway, dropped it off at the specialist to do the timing belt and camshaft belt and whatever else the front end might need. Seems like a good place. We'll see. :homebrew:

When do you get it back? It'll be a great feeling knowing that you're good for a looong time after that service is done especially since you won't have to take a seller's word that everything is good.

In transaxle Porsches news, swapped the new 996's BBS LM reps onto the 968 since it needed new tires and they look amazing. Not really much of a change in comfort either going from 16" to 18".



CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Jymmybob posted:

When do you get it back? It'll be a great feeling knowing that you're good for a looong time after that service is done especially since you won't have to take a seller's word that everything is good.


Next week sometime.

What's the general consensus on timing belt interval? I've heard everything from 2 years / 20k miles to 6 years / 60k miles. When this guy's done (and he's the one that told me 6 years) it'll have the wider (17mm I think) belt.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

CornHolio posted:

Next week sometime.

What's the general consensus on timing belt interval? I've heard everything from 2 years / 20k miles to 6 years / 60k miles. When this guy's done (and he's the one that told me 6 years) it'll have the wider (17mm I think) belt.

I always heard 6/60k too. Materials have come a long way since these were built too so it should be plenty safe.

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Motronic posted:

I did it for the last 7 years or so.

I bought it for parts, it turned out to be better than that, so I did EVERYTHING that needed doing - 100% up to date on maintenance.

In those 7 years I've been through one rear wheel bearing and a wiper motor as far as unscheduled repairs go.

That being said, I still wouldn't drive one unless I was doing my own work. Daily or otherwise.

I think I'm going to start casually looking then. Exciting.

TacoHavoc
Dec 31, 2007
It's taco-y and havoc-y...at the same time!
I went and drove a 2008 boxster this weekend and realized a few things.

https://autohauslancasterporsche.com/inventory/used/Porsche+Boxster+Lancaster+Pennsylvania+2008+Black+1261371

1) That car was built so much better than my 2000 Z3.
2) But it didn't feel any faster :confuoot:
3) I don't want black.

I think what I want is a boxster S. I was trolling rennlist and found this:
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/993098-2006-boxster-s-cocoa-on-white-preferred-package-16k-miles.html

So I realize this is kind of top dollar, but it seems to be a really well cared for, low milage car. It's after they went back to the larger single row IMS, so hopefully that won't be a concern. Any thoughts on this car? Where would you guys try to drive him down to?

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Man...

Talked to the specialist shop that's working on my car, and they want to go all out replacing things.

The timing and balance shaft belt is $570.
Add to that the water pump, another $600 using one rebuilt by Porsche.
Add to that all the front end seals ($269), a replacement distributor cap/rotor (I forget how much that was but it isn't much and there's no labor involved), all new idlers and tensioners ($370), a thermostat ($23), new radiator hoses (mine are pretty brittle) and a full coolant flush, etc... and I'm looking at a $2300 bill after tax.

I trust the guy, he only charges the labor necessary. If a job takes twenty minutes, he charges twenty minutes. But he also only uses genuine Porsche parts, so parts prices are more than I'd pay if I were doing it myself.

A small price to pay for peace of mind, I guess.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

CornHolio posted:

Man...

Talked to the specialist shop that's working on my car, and they want to go all out replacing things.

The timing and balance shaft belt is $570.
Add to that the water pump, another $600 using one rebuilt by Porsche.
Add to that all the front end seals ($269), a replacement distributor cap/rotor (I forget how much that was but it isn't much and there's no labor involved), all new idlers and tensioners ($370), a thermostat ($23), new radiator hoses (mine are pretty brittle) and a full coolant flush, etc... and I'm looking at a $2300 bill after tax.

I trust the guy, he only charges the labor necessary. If a job takes twenty minutes, he charges twenty minutes. But he also only uses genuine Porsche parts, so parts prices are more than I'd pay if I were doing it myself.

A small price to pay for peace of mind, I guess.

That's not so bad considering it pretty much covers everything major for years and considering your car's condition imagine what it would have sold for if all those things were already done and documented. Also they didn't seem to find anything unusual which is probably the best news since it's just standard wear items.

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Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
On the topic of servicing, I should probably stick to the dealer for service while my car is still under warranty, right?

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