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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Anyone know about any realistic reports for electric pickup trucks or other "haul poo poo around" vehicles? I know about the Workhorse plugin hybrid which I'm hoping will be sold to consumers. But its primary market is fleets. Ford has a hybrid F-150 coming for 2020. Isn't ruling out an electric F-150 around that same time. Their new CEO is more of a tech guy than a car guy, so i could see them pushing harder into that area.
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Yeah, I find traditional hybrids less exciting. If it doesn't have at least 30 all-electric miles then it's probably not gonna do what I want.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:14
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Charging at works for free owns, meeting an ice cold car in your parking lot on a scorching hot day owns
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call to action posted:Charging at works for free owns, meeting an ice cold car in your parking lot on a scorching hot day owns Yeeep, also when your round trip commute is shorter then your range
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Jun 9, 2017 20:20
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I'm kind of wondering how cheap a Volt lease can get in CA. Cheap enough that the gas savings offset the insurance? Maybe? I doubt I drive enough that I should even be thinking about this.
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ilkhan posted:I'm kind of wondering how cheap a Volt lease can get in CA. Cheap enough that the gas savings offset the insurance? Maybe? I doubt I drive enough that I should even be thinking about this. A local Chevy dealer is pimping this deal on the Volt: Lease for as low as $79+ tax for 36 months. $3250 down + 1st payment, taxes, DMV fees and ACQ fees. $0 security deposit. 10K miles per year, 25¢ per excess mile. $500 Comp. Lease See website for expiration date. On approved credit. w/MSRP $34,265 & Below 10 @ this price Dunno if that helps or not. 
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Jun 9, 2017 22:05
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Looking at that lease mileage limit I just realized I have put over 12,000 miles on my Leaf since I bought it in January.
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Jun 9, 2017 23:04
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That's... A lot of driving.
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Vitamin J posted:Looking at that lease mileage limit I just realized I have put over 12,000 miles on my Leaf since I bought it in January.
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Jun 10, 2017 04:33
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The Volt is such a steal in rebate states. It's just a decent car, I don't know why more people don't get them even if they never plug them in.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Anyone know about any realistic reports for electric pickup trucks or other "haul poo poo around" vehicles? I know about the Workhorse plugin hybrid which I'm hoping will be sold to consumers. But its primary market is fleets. Newswire has an article about a truck called the Havelaar Bison, dual motor, 186 mile range. Autoblog has pics. Havelaar's site
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stevobob posted:Newswire has an article about a truck called the Havelaar Bison, dual motor, 186 mile range. Autoblog has pics. Havelaar's site Awesome, thanks for the info! Too bad about the lack of pricing info, but I'll definitely be keeping an eye on that.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Well given they are building pre-production and production ready testers down the line right now with a bunch of production ready testers on the road right now, the July guesstamate is looking fairly good. My buddy got a call from Tesla today about his Model 3 reservation. Apparently he's in the first batch and they are targeting delivery around August/September.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:35
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Had to cross into Michigan to reach the supercharger closest to the cottage I was at in Canada's. Nobody behind me in my lane, so the border agent chatted me up for about 5 minutes on various EV topics. (He's getting a Volt next year when his lease is up, it seems.)
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Shadowgate posted:My buddy got a call from Tesla today about his Model 3 reservation. Apparently he's in the first batch and they are targeting delivery around August/September. I'd appreciate anything you can pry out of him. I'm (impatiently) waiting on a similar call.
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MrYenko posted:I'd appreciate anything you can pry out of him. I'm (impatiently) waiting on a similar call. Apparently they asked some questions about if his garage was ready for charging, what kind of driving he does, if it was his only car, and if he's been following the options that will be available. I think based on those answers they prioritize you or push you back. The group he's in is the first 1,000 cars it sounds like.
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Wrong thread, sorry! But just to provide some content, Richard Hammond just crashed one of these  It's a Rimac Concept One, which is a Croatian supercar and is nothing like a Yugo. At least it wasn't until the hamster got to it: 
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Jun 11, 2017 00:30
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Best pics yet of Model 3 interior. https://imgur.com/a/zhvq8#S6erzYN  
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Jun 12, 2017 12:21
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Ugh, clean your car
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double ohm seven posted:Ugh, clean your car That looks like it's in test mode, so somebody is probably using it as a desk several hours a day.
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Jun 12, 2017 12:46
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I could not live with that dash. The touchscreen looks out of place on such a minimalist dash. I'm hoping they have speedometer and a few other things along that thin area of the dash, cause the touchscreen will be unreliable due to glare.
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Jun 12, 2017 12:52
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Doesn't look terrible, but that steering wheel looks super cheap/plasticy. Also I think he stole their can of Ice Tea!
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Jun 12, 2017 13:33
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Why would you use a glossy panel on the screen?
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Jun 12, 2017 23:28
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I take it back, the best thing about driving electric is taking away (most of) the guilt about burning shitloads of gas, even just for cost reasons. I swear I drive way more now, and I love it.
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call to action posted:I take it back, the best thing about driving electric is taking away (most of) the guilt about burning shitloads of gas, even just for cost reasons. I swear I drive way more now, and I love it. People complain about range anxiety when it comes to electric cars, but nobody mentions the gas anxiety that comes with normal ICEs.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:People complain about range anxiety when it comes to electric cars, but nobody mentions the gas anxiety that comes with normal ICEs. Because there are gas stations everywhere, they are all the same standard, and it takes two minutes to fill a gas tank. If you were making an anxiety joke... I'm sorry for being dumb.
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Ola posted:Best pics yet of Model 3 interior. GG, that's just begging for a distracted driver related crash.
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Ola posted:Best pics yet of Model 3 interior. So wait, there's no driver dash whatsoever? Not even a speedometer? Does any other car have a setup like that?
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Thwomp posted:So wait, there's no driver dash whatsoever? Not even a speedometer? Does any other car have a setup like that? Pre T-Ford perhaps? I'm assuming speed and legal warning lights will be on the center screen. Many cars have a centered speedo, it doesn't have to be that bad, but if the Model S is anything to go by, it will have poor dimming and will destroy your night vision. Also, the autopilot lever is on the shifter. Both of these are quite bold moves which may work or (and?) may turn out to be really annoying.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:52
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Many cars have central gauges so I'd assume this one would change to show a speedometer when in motion. Still pretty terrible IMO.
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The Model 3 dash looks user-unfriendly. Average sale price with good options is expected to be around 50k. Lord, please deliver to me a Gen 2 Hyundai Ioniq. 200 mile range and a great battery warranty for under 30k.
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Is it just the southern californian in me that is most interested in how adjustable the air vents (that I assume are in that strip along the dash) are?
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eyebeem posted:Because there are gas stations everywhere, they are all the same standard, and it takes two minutes to fill a gas tank. Nah, I didn't state things clearly. By "gas anxiety" I meant the unwillingness to use your vehicle because doing so would require burning gasoline, which may be readily available but is still a) bad for the environment, and b) more expensive than electricity.
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Ola posted:Many cars have a centered speedo, it doesn't have to be that bad I'm aware of three recent cars with center instrument clusters and they're all bad. Neither Mini nor Toyota was able to make that not be a terrible idea, nor will Tesla. It's a bean counter move and nothing more.
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Touchscreens are a usability nightmare in general. Now the entire UI is modal (meaning that buttons move around depending on what mode the UI is in) and impossible to use without looking at the screen. As was mentioned, they're a lot cheaper than having proper knobs and sliders and so on, and they also have the "ooh shiny" factor going for them, so I don't think they're going away, sadly. I can only hope that we figure out how to haptic feedback soon so the screen can actually change shape/texture.
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eyebeem posted:Is it just the southern californian in me that is most interested in how adjustable the air vents (that I assume are in that strip along the dash) are? South Floridian with a deposit, here; I'm equally concerned. 
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eyebeem posted:Is it just the southern californian in me that is most interested in how adjustable the air vents (that I assume are in that strip along the dash) are? No, I was raising hell about the form over function when they first displayed them. All the design in the world ain't worth poo poo when the SO isn't comfortable.
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How do you aim the vent at your fat head? Do you have to remember to precool?
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They're probably aim the vent electronically by using machine vision to locate your fat head in 3d space
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