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it's true -- i define 'nuance' as the ability to hold two contradictory ideas in my head at the same time.
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Concerned Citizen posted:Yeah it's called nuance. democrats.txt
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:it's true -- i define 'nuance' as the ability to hold two contradictory ideas in my head at the same time. Nothing contradictory there.
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hey, i'm concerned citizen and let me tell you how you can find nuance in literally everything, starting with the holoca
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:hey, i'm concerned citizen and let me tell you how you can find nuance in literally everything, starting with the holoca well that didn't take long
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hey everybody, concerned citizen here -- i think you'll find that all lives matter, and that if they had simply followed police instructions they might still b ealive today
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it is kinda amazing that a concern troll with the word concern literally in their name has so much success lol
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hey everybody, concerned citizen here. ferretball was my old alt account. (those of you in the know will already guess where i'm going with this bit. --ghf)
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*to the tune of "The Simpsons" theme song* the suuuuck zooooooone
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Serf posted:it is kinda amazing that a concern troll with the word concern literally in their name has so much success lol it doesn't take much to troll the suk zone
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Concerned Citizen posted:We all fundamentally share a distrust of the free market and want very significant increases in government intervention at the expense of the rich. If you want to classify me as the enemy, that's fine. I don't really mind, but I don't think I am. I personally have no problem at all with the left. theres a difference between distrust of the free market and believing it will eventually grind humanity into dust and must be destroyed
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Joementum posted:a classic, relevant again today I like to hit the "JEFFERSON Beauregard Sessions" since that's the more well known of the 2 slave owners he's named after.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:theres a difference between distrust of the free market and believing it will eventually grind humanity into dust and must be destroyed Sure.
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RUSSIA!!!!!!!
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Jun 13, 2017 21:47
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Concerned Citizen posted:I think I largely share the same values and goals with the left. lol you not only voted for Hillary Clinton, but you worked on her campaign son, i hate to break it to you, but you're a centrist
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NewForumSoftware posted:lol you not only voted for Hillary Clinton, but you worked on her campaign ok
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get ready for the bad dems do trash this https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/874721160600137728 lmao all but one of the replies is about how he isn't a dem
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[Foxworthyshly] If you think "loading the dishwasher" means getting your prison labor drunk... You might be a centrist.
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Concerned Citizen posted:I mean, I think single payer is great. If we could pass it tomorrow I'd be over the moon. I just think other countries have implemented alternate paths to true UHC and I'm not going to dismiss those as neoliberal plots, especially if they might be easier to achieve in a political sense. I think $15/h minimum wage is great but it's too low for some areas and - having grown up in one of the most impoverished areas of the country - I worry it might have negative effects in parts of the country that have median wages lower than that. I think free college tuition is great and we should absolutely do it, but I also think our college system inherently disadvantages the poor and we should look at overhauling the whole thing to fast track people who want to be fast tracked directly into skilled labor careers. In general, I think I'm to the left of Clinton but not I'm not strictly with the left of the party. I think I largely share the same values and goals with the left. do you think that single-payer should be defeated if it doesn't overturn the 41-year-old hyde amendment? bc that's my current litmus test for "concerned citizens" such as yourself to see how "over the moon" they'd really be about single-payer. eta: as far as "alternative paths" to single-payer: You do know that those countries tightly regulate the cost of insurance as well as provider costs, right? Just as our Medicare single-payer program does here.
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Bernie: Ya party freakin' blows Dem: You're not even in it! Bernie: Aduhhh!
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Don’t Like Betsy DeVos? Blame the Democrats. Excellent, short summary from Diane Ravitch in the New Republic of Democratic failures on education policy. (She's reliably essential reading -- her work in the New York Review of Books is invariably top-notch.) Plus a good shout-out to my main dude at the end: "Diane Ravitch posted:The agenda isn’t complicated. Fight privatization of all kinds. Insist on an evidence-based debate about charter schools and vouchers. Abandon the obsession with testing. Fight for equitable funding, with public money flowing to the neediest schools. Acknowledge the importance of well-educated, professional teachers in every classroom. Follow the example of Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, who vetoed a bill to expand charters in March. Or Montana Governor Steve Bullock, who insists that charters employ certified teachers, allow them to unionize, and fall under the control of local school districts. Democrats should take their cue from Bullock when he declares, “I continue to firmly believe that our public education system is the great equalizer.”   BULLOCK BULLOCK BULLOCK
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hey suck zone shut up for a second and watch this http://i.imgur.com/Jq2LXzt.gifv this skate board movie, it is called an oligarchy
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Willa Rogers posted:do you think that single-payer should be defeated if it doesn't overturn the 41-year-old hyde amendment? of course not. not that the hyde amendment isn't immoral garbage that should be relegated to the trash can at the earliest opportunity. quote:eta: as far as "alternative paths" to single-payer: You do know that those countries tightly regulate the cost of insurance as well as provider costs, right? Just as our Medicare single-payer program does here. yes.
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bad dems in 2009-2010: "Sure, the ACA doesn't cost-control insurance premiums or providers, but it's the first step toward single-payer." bad dems in 2016-2017: "Sure, I'd love single-payer, but look at these other programs that control insurance and provider costs, just like single-payer does!"
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Lastgirl posted:hey suck zone shut up for a second and watch this a heelie kickflip
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GalacticAcid posted:
but kamala harris saved all those homeowners in CA! after a court decree forced her to
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i'm glad i passed willa rogers' litmus test and now i'm a Good Dem
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Lastgirl posted:hey suck zone shut up for a second and watch this  also that's a good flip for having done it in heels
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not so fast.Concerned Citizen posted:Yeah it's called nuance. what's the "nuance" between advocating for medicare-for-all instead of "alternative systems" that do the exact same thing?
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Concerned Citizen posted:i'm glad i passed willa rogers' litmus test and now i'm a Good Dem be glad she only comes down from the mountain like once a month
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:get ready for the bad dems do trash this Voters describe Bernie as being honest and trustworthy. Words that describe don't the bad dem clique of failures like Pelosi, DWS and other corporate bootlickers. etalian has issued a correction as of 22:21 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Lastgirl posted:hey suck zone shut up for a second and watch this Awesome moves, but they're cancelled out by the sticker.
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Willa Rogers posted:what's the "nuance" between advocating for medicare-for-all instead of "alternative systems" that do the exact same thing? 23 million uninsured.
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Stexils posted:a heelie kickflip thats what i said, an oligarchy
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Willa Rogers posted:bad dems in 2009-2010: "Sure, the ACA doesn't cost-control insurance premiums or providers, but it's the first step toward single-payer." I mean we're getting nothing so I'm not sure why you're all huffy here.
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Lastgirl posted:hey suck zone shut up for a second and watch this radical centrism
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