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Is Trump actually going to blow this poo poo for the GOP...?
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mcmagic posted:Party bosses win in VA just like in NJ. I'm jealous of all the threads you don't post in. As a long-time resident of VA- "party bosses"? Like NJ's? The gently caress are you smoking? Also, wow, the Lt. Governor who campaigned against AHCA and called Trump a "narcissistic maniac" beat the former Congressman who campaigned against AHCA and said VA should be "a firewall" against Trump, truly the party has fallen and abandoned The Way
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Jun 14, 2017 01:28
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The real question is, who told Trump the bill was bad?
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Jun 14, 2017 01:28
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mik posted:Did Trump really gently caress over Rs in congress that blatantly? Calling it poo poo publicly after convincing them to go vote for it? Oh poo poo guys! IT'S THE PIVOT!
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Jun 14, 2017 01:29
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mik posted:Did Trump really gently caress over Rs in congress that blatantly? Calling it poo poo publicly after convincing them to go vote for it? He didn't call it poo poo publicly, he did it privately. he's just gonna say it's fake news and blame the media for unnamed sources.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:29
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Ralepozozaxe posted:The real question is, who told Trump the bill was bad?
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Jun 14, 2017 01:30
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awesmoe posted:He didn't call it poo poo publicly, he did it privately. he's just gonna say it's fake news and blame the media for unnamed sources. That's true, I guess I wouldn't have been surprised if he had seen the approval rating for the bill and said "well I never liked it anyway".
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Jun 14, 2017 01:32
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mik posted:That's true, I guess I wouldn't have been surprised if he had seen the approval rating for the bill and said "well I never liked it anyway". this is absolutely 100% completely no doubt what happened
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Jun 14, 2017 01:32
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awesmoe posted:He didn't call it poo poo publicly, he did it privately. he's just gonna say it's fake news and blame the media for unnamed sources. He did it privately, but in this WH, that means its gonna be on the streets within 10 minutes
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Jun 14, 2017 01:33
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The Glumslinger posted:He did it privately, but in this WH, that means its gonna be on the streets within 10 minutes Agreed but it still gives him the out of shooting the messenger (false news/leaks) vs addressing questions on the substance of the remarks
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Jun 14, 2017 01:34
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Petr posted:Some of them might become Concerned. Maybe Deeply Concerned, even. its one thing to gently caress over democracy or america it's another to gently caress over them
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Jun 14, 2017 01:34
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This is literally ALL he does in business. Convinces the other side to take some ridiculous risk (usually by bullying/threatening) and then fucks them over. The art of the deal!
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Jun 14, 2017 01:34
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Ralepozozaxe posted:The real question is, who told Trump the bill was bad? the media it was part of the report that he has no idea what's in it he's just mad people don't like it
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Jun 14, 2017 01:35
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I wouldn't be happy if I were outmaneuvered by Donald John Trump on such a basic issue either awesmoe posted:this is absolutely 100% completely no doubt what happened I don't trust him to actually have a political take for longer than it takes someone to tell him otherwise.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:36
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mik posted:That's true, I guess I wouldn't have been surprised if he had seen the approval rating for the bill and said "well I never liked it anyway". Haha he just realized something that every single Republican already knew but was supporting the bill despite the damage it would do to them personally, and was like 'nah gently caress you guys I'm doin me'. How could they ever have predicted he would do such a selfish thing?
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Jun 14, 2017 01:37
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Spiritus Nox posted:Is Trump actually going to blow this poo poo for the GOP...? Only Donald Trump can save America from the GOP now.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:37
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enraged_camel posted:This is literally ALL he does in business. Convinces the other side to take some ridiculous risk (usually by bullying/threatening) and then fucks them over. Seriously, basically all of them should have seen this coming. Though it's not as if they needed to be urged to try and gently caress people's healthcare up. A lot of them ran on this poo poo.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:37
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Posted this in the other thread, but the VA primary has a lot of local issues and it shouldn't be seen as a shift away from the far left.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:38
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Jaxyon posted:Seriously, basically all of them should have seen this coming. You say his action was the selfish one, but Republican support for these bills is the definition of selfish...
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Jun 14, 2017 01:38
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Petr posted:Some of them might become Concerned. Maybe Deeply Concerned, even. 
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Jun 14, 2017 01:40
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I'm honestly wondering if its possible that the Senate passes something only for Trump to end up vetoing it because he realizes how unpopular it is. I mean, we're already in crazy land so why not? Or I wonder if Trump suddenly waffling on this is going to cause some hesitant "maybes" to decide "no" since not only will it reflect poorly on themselves but now it might not even endear them to Lord Trump.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:40
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evilweasel posted:the media The funny thing is that Fox and most conservative news sources wouldn't be talking bad about the AHCA. He totally got this info from CNN or MSNBC.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:41
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Boo loving hoo they can eat a bag of dicks. You ride the tiger eventually you get eaten. Rot in hell.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:41
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Ralepozozaxe posted:The funny thing is that Fox and most conservative news sources wouldn't be talking bad about the AHCA. Eh, if he was listening to the news he'd had flipped weeks ago. I think this is one of his talking heads telling him he might be able to deflect the Russia story by swinging center/throwing the House under the bus. He lives news cycle to news cycle.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:44
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mik posted:Did Trump really gently caress over Rs in congress that blatantly? Calling it poo poo publicly after convincing them to go vote for it? he is used to the old days, where he could jerk off and play people against each other and giver contradictory orders that had to be followed because it was his company, they when it went belly up he would blame the underling. enraged_camel posted:This is literally ALL he does in business. Convinces the other side to take some ridiculous risk (usually by bullying/threatening) and then fucks them over. yep. Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm honestly wondering if its possible that the Senate passes something only for Trump to end up vetoing it because he realizes how unpopular it is. maybe. he might legit believe that him doing this would make him the hero of the day.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:44
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mcmagic posted:Party bosses win in VA just like in NJ. As someone who got a sticker voting for Perriello today with his wife, please shut the gently caress up about my home state's politics you garbage idiot. The Democratic primary had two good choices, and one of them won. The nomination is the other's for the taking four years from now, at which point you'll probably say "party bosses win" again like the Milli Vanilli backing track that you are. Meanwhile Ed Gillespie's lead sure seems to be shrinking as the idiot counties turn in their results.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:45
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mik posted:Did Trump really gently caress over Rs in congress that blatantly? Calling it poo poo publicly after convincing them to go vote for it? Your party controls executive, and legislative. How can the bill be risky unless it's beyond a steaming heap of poo poo? KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 01:46
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I wonder how he would react to the inevitable reaction of "lol thanks you loving moron" from the left and "why the gently caress did you do that you loving moron" from the right if he were actually stupid enough to kill AHCA in a bid for popularity. It'd be a move he'd expect to make everyone love him (which of course is the only kind of move he ever tries to make) and instead it would just make him look vulnerable to the left and traitorous to the right.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:47
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evilweasel posted:the media It's a terrifying way to live, if I were like that I would be mad all the time too
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Jun 14, 2017 01:48
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TheScott2K posted:As someone who got a sticker voting for Perriello today with his wife, please shut the gently caress up about my home state's politics you garbage idiot. The Democratic primary had two good choices, and one of them won. The nomination is the other's for the taking four years from now, at which point you'll probably say "party bosses win" again like the Milli Vanilli backing track that you are. I'm also a Virginian who pulled the lever, so to speak, for Perriello. It's disappointing to see Stewart do so well. I really thought that Gillespie would win more handily than this.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:51
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So Dennis Rodman got that Otto dude freed North Korea, is what actually happened, right? It just makes more sense than the alternative
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Jun 14, 2017 01:53
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'm also a Virginian who pulled the lever, so to speak, for Perriello. It's disappointing to see Stewart do so well. I really thought that Gillespie would win more handily than this.  Corey Stewart within 1000. MORE CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS SAYETH THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA!
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Jun 14, 2017 01:54
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Spiritus Nox posted:I wonder how he would react to the inevitable reaction of "lol thanks you loving moron" from the left and "why the gently caress did you do that you loving moron" from the right if he were actually stupid enough to kill AHCA in a bid for popularity. It'd be a move he'd expect to make everyone love him (which of course is the only kind of move he ever tries to make) and instead it would just make him look vulnerable to the left and traitorous to the right. OTOH, what if Donald Trump suddenly realized that he could be the most popular and loved president in history by instituting policies that helped everyone at the expense of the rich, and could target other rich people than himself to do it?
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Jun 14, 2017 01:55
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pillsburysoldier posted:So Dennis Rodman got that Otto dude freed North Korea, is what actually happened, right? The alternative is North Korea knows the guy dying there is a whole new ballgame. I don't think Rodman had a drat thing to do with it.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:55
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pillsburysoldier posted:So Dennis Rodman got that Otto dude freed North Korea, is what actually happened, right? the guy has been in a coma from botulism for a year. they probably didn't want him to die in dprk custody
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Jun 14, 2017 01:55
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pillsburysoldier posted:So Dennis Rodman got that Otto dude freed North Korea, is what actually happened, right? Yeah but the dude is probably a vegetable. Non-recoverable coma.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:55
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Alright, barring some incredible Stewart-mentum from two counties where nobody lives, Gillespie's the Republican running for VA-Gov. It's an uphill battle for that dude, though.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:56
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I really don't know the details so this could be way off, but if the dude was in a coma I would imagine the DPRK would hand him back out of no-poo poo self-interest.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:57
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TheScott2K posted:The alternative is North Korea knows the guy dying there is a whole new ballgame. I don't think Rodman had a drat thing to do with it. This, plus Sweden has been helping out a lot with NK lately.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:57
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TheScott2K posted:
Ugh...and I live in one of the counties that went for Stewart too.
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