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UV will get half a dozen seats in 2019 and then fold entirely, if history is any indication. NewPS, who knows.
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Might have mentioned it earlier, but the entire political history of Pers consists of a series of brutal owns on Suomen Sisu's Teemu Lahtinen, who has been trying to be Halla-aho but more militant. Now that the party split, he's never even going to get a seat on the Espoo council anymore.
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Jun 14, 2017 08:14
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Rexroom posted:Soini published a blog post about the day's events. The server is down, probably because of HACKERS, but Kaleva described the post. Basically Soini had a hunch something was up, and the tension rose between the two wings the closer we got to 10th of June. So the PS party system was vulnerable to capture since in choosing the puoluehallitus it relied on a precedent of honoring the precinct bodies wishes.
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More crucially the leadership is chosen by the members who bother to turn up at the convention. As we have seen with U.S. congressional primaries it rewards the fringe activists who have passion and time to organize.
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Kuvittelisin että aikoinaan hallitusneuvotteluissa Persut otettiin mukaan nimenomaan sillä ehdolla että Soini pitää Halla-ahot kurissa. Vähän tuntuu kanssa siltä että kesk/kok-näkökulmasta Mestarin isoin synti on EU-vastaisuus, näyttää äkkiä pahalta kansainvälisesti olla samassa hallituksessa eroa ajavan puolueen kanssa. Jos ei nyt muuta niin luulisi jokaisen puolueen oppivan tästä ja Stubb-katastrofista sen, että hallituspuolueen ei jumalauta kannata lähteä vaihtamaan pj:tä keskellä vaalikautta.
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Jun 14, 2017 09:40
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Are these people doing a nazi salute? That's what Uusi Vaihtoehto are accusing. Now TF are suing them for defamation.
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Jun 14, 2017 11:02
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I think they're trying to get a turn to speak during the presidential nomination on Sunday which apparently turned into a farce and might have been carried out against the party rules.
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I think UV claimed they're doing the nazi salute to celebrate Halla-Aho's victory, but that was on saturday and the photo was taken on sunday when they voted on the presidential nomination as mentioned.
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Half of them are raising their left hands and everyone has their fingers just however. Not much of a salute. Not that I doubt mestarin kannattajat are mainly dumb nazis, but come on. bloom fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 11:32
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When you have so many ways to legitimately criticize persus / halla-aho's brownshirts, trying to paint some randoms voting by a show hands as nazi saluters only makes you look super dumb
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Trogdos! posted:When you have so many ways to legitimately criticize persus / halla-aho's brownshirts, trying to paint some randoms voting by a show hands as nazi saluters only makes you look super dumb Everything else about this whole charade has been performed with such grace and intellect, what happened here 
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When I hold classes at my side job and ask people who have back pains to raise their hand, they are doing a nazi salute In this case though, even the most ardent Halla-aho and TF haters online are calling total bullshit, including reporters who usually want nazis behind every corner, only Rexroom, Kember Boyd and rasmus group level idiots thought the picture was a sieg heil.
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Ligur posted:In this case though, even the most ardent Halla-aho and TF haters online are calling total bullshit, including reporters who usually want nazis behind every corner, only Rexroom, Kember Boyd and rasmus group level idiots thought the picture was a sieg heil. neither poster is saying this though  maybe it is the ligur who sees vihervassaris behind every corner
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Whoa wait, Ligur is allowed to teach classes? No wonder this country's such a mess. 
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Trogdos! posted:neither poster is saying this though I've had him blocked for like three or four years now because he's tiresome so maybe. Tbh I don't really get the media. My own reaction to hearing the claim that someone siegheiled at the party convention was more or less "eh" because it's plausible as hell, after all. But why make a big deal out of it, the more important part is all the extremist connections and the racist poo poo that the Rudimentary Finns have spouted and will keep spouting in the future. The media has been doing a huge deal out of the sieg heils but at the same time, they've time and time again given Soini a pass on not actually doing jack poo poo about racists and fascists in his own party.
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Kemper Boyd posted:The media has been doing a huge deal out of the sieg heils but at the same time, they've time and time again given Soini a pass on not actually doing jack poo poo about racists and fascists in his own party. Halla-aho managed a small burn about this last night on a-studio when he pointed out to Simon Elo that Simon has also actively advertised himself and his views on hommaforum in the past. Simon is the head of the Soini EK-ryhmä 
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Ligur posted:When I hold classes at my side job and ask people who have back pains to raise their hand, they are doing a nazi salute This post explains quite a lot.
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Rappaport posted:Halla-aho managed a small burn about this last night on a-studio when he pointed out to Simon Elo that Simon has also actively advertised himself and his views on hommaforum in the past. Simon is the head of the Soini EK-ryhmä Simon is one of the sleaziest opportunists to make it into parliament as a Persu. My personal theory is that Terho put him in "charge" (remember, Simon didn't even get to negotiate with Orpo and Sipilä) because if one of the extremist halla-ahoites decides to take violent action, Simon is the one guy who could get shot down in front of parliament and absolutely no one would miss him.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Simon is one of the sleaziest opportunists to make it into parliament as a Persu. My personal theory is that Terho put him in "charge" (remember, Simon didn't even get to negotiate with Orpo and Sipilä) because if one of the extremist halla-ahoites decides to take violent action, Simon is the one guy who could get shot down in front of parliament and absolutely no one would miss him. lol mitä sä oot vetänyt?
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That is what we call a "joke", Hogge Wild. Edit: Since it's Simon who's been talking about receiving death threats and stuff.
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Kemper Boyd posted:That is what we call a "joke", Hogge Wild. tässä langassa ei voi olla varma
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In the summer 2015 I sat on a bus and on a bench row opposite to mine sat a nerdy man with a large black plastic briefcase. He was being aggressively interrogated by some old fart - why, I did not understand. Both seemed a little rude to each other at times. This conversation that the nerdy guy seemed to not want to have went on for quite a while, until suddenly the old man got much friendlier, wished the nerdy guy luck and strength on his new job and stepped off. This got me pondering - was I supposed to know who this nerd was? I had to find out. and that man's name? Simon Elo. please don't call me a racist for being this closely acquainted with a
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Trogdos! posted:neither poster is saying this though well Rexroom needed to ask if it's legit, and Kempr thought it was plausible, so not far off, ehh? if I was seeing viharvassaris behind every corner I would probably accuse 75% of d%d posters of vihevassarism... wait, they actually ARE and happily admit they vote for various socialist left-wing parties
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bloom posted:Whoa wait, Ligur is allowed to teach classes? No wonder this country's such a mess. Oh yeah I've been teaching stretching, weight lifting, kickboxing and all sort of stuff for the better part off a decade (sys admin having been my main occupation). Most clients are women and the immigrant content is often large enough that I hold classes in english...
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Do they know you're a literal nazi?
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They know jerrycottons are literal idiots, they also know I'm kinda far from a nazi so you dun need to worry. edit: actually it's interesting, people who regularly exersice are far more level headed, calm and less likely to freak out and accuse people who disagree with something of nazism/communism/racism/socialism/transphobia or whatever, than pasty hipsters and guys in woollen sweaters who study naistutkimus... Ligur fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 16:43
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Obviously Ligur wears a full SS uniform into practice
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Andrast posted:Obviously Ligur wears a full SS uniform into practice Well that's alright then. As long as everything is on the table.
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Ligur posted:people who regularly exersice are far more level headed, calm and less likely to freak out and accuse people who disagree So youre the exception then?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Pgx-oKOo0
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Fated To Be Fat posted:So youre the exception then? I don't actually post on the forum accusing everyone of being communists and maoists who want to kill everyone. Which is literally what a lot of people here do (they just replace communist with nazi and Mao with Hitler). Taidat vähän haukkua väärää puuta. Anna kun arvaan kuitenkin siltikään nimittelämättä kommaristalinistiteurastajaksi, äänestät Vasemmistoliittoa?
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Ligur posted:I don't actually post on the forum accusing everyone of being communists and maoists who want to kill everyone. You fly off the handle about vihervassarit constantly
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Andrast posted:You fly off the handle about vihervassarit constantly No siteeraas, milloin olin alkanut rähjäämään, että joku eri mieltä oleva on murhanhimoinen kommari jos ei ole itse ensin sanonut haluavansa tappaa rikkaat tjsp? (Kaipa tässä 15 vuoden aikana niinkin on voinut tapahtua, mutta että koko ajan?) Ja kyllä minusta vasemmiston äänestäjiä jotka itse kertovat äänestävänsä vasemmistoa, voi kutsua vasemmistolaisiksi. Vai eikö? Jos ei miksi ei? Itse en äänestä natsipuoluetta, tai kuulu natsijärjestöön, eikä minua kiinnosta kenenkään rotu, jossa valossa rasistinatsi -syyttely on aavistuksen eri juttu.
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Ligur posted:No siteeraas, milloin olin alkanut rähjäämään, että joku eri mieltä oleva on murhanhimoinen kommari jos ei ole itse ensin sanonut haluavansa tappaa rikkaat tjsp? (Kaipa tässä 15 vuoden aikana niinkin on voinut tapahtua, mutta että koko ajan?) Your entire gimmick is based on unhinged meltdowns and then denying they happened.
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Ligur posted:No siteeraas, milloin olin alkanut rähjäämään, että joku eri mieltä oleva on murhanhimoinen kommari jos ei ole itse ensin sanonut haluavansa tappaa rikkaat tjsp? (Kaipa tässä 15 vuoden aikana niinkin on voinut tapahtua, mutta että koko ajan?) En mää puhunut tappamisesta vaan tuosta quote:people who regularly exersice are far more level headed, calm and less likely to freak out and accuse people who disagree Vihervassareista rähjääminen kun on varmaan puolet sun postauksesta täällä. Se toinen puolet on sitä normaalia Totally-not-racist™ postausta.
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meillä on vittu Homma-Persut vs. Alt-Persut konflikti käynnissä ja te juututte ligurin ligurointiin
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Nenonen posted:meillä on vittu Homma-Persut vs. Alt-Persut konflikti käynnissä ja te juututte ligurin ligurointiin myrskyjä vesilasissa
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Andrast posted:En mää puhunut tappamisesta vaan tuosta Niin. Vihervassarit on vihervassareita, ja kaipa niitä voi sellaisiksi sanoa jos itse sanovat olevansa, ja vaikka toisinaan postaan gently caress off postaajille, jotka postaavat minulle niin, en syyttele väkeä murhanhimoisiksi tappajiksi jos he ovat eri mieltä jostain asiasta. Oman tulkintani mukaan (esim. jotain Jerryä ei lasketa) täällä on postaajia jotka eivät pelkästään ironisesti tai kännissä läpällä pidä minua murhanhimoisena psykopaattina joka haluaa hanhenmarssia Wagnerin tahtiin sekä tappaa muukalaisia, homoja sekä naisia, vaan oikeasti luulevat näin olevan. Suurin rikokseni on, että en dumaa natzeiksi heti kaikkia halla-ahoja ja olen sitä mieltä, että pakolaisia olisi tehokkaampaa auttaa lähialueilla, eikä leikkiä, että on parempi maksaa ylläpito ikuisesti tänne saapuville nuorille miehille. Vieläkään kukaan ei ole pystynyt argumenteeraamaan miksi näin ei olisi. Sen sijaan on kuitenkin useasti toivottu mm, että kuolen syöpään tai perheeni kuolee tulipalossa. Hmm. On noissa lähestymistavoissa joitain eroja. (Ei, en ota noita "kuole natsipaska" -postauksia edes tosissani, on vain vinkeä ero kuinka paskasti vassarit ottavat kantaa eriäviään mielipiteisiin vs kaikki muut ihmiset keitä tiedän.)
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joo joo me tiedetään jo että sun mielestä jos ei suoraan hillu KKK-puku päällä huutamassa kuolemaa kaikille väärän värisille ei voi olla rasisti
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