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mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Beet Wagon posted:

I've been home sick recently, and playing a shitload of Grand Theft Auto V, and one thing I noticed is how well Rockstar made the AI seem like it works. Once you start looking closely you notice spawn configurations and duplicates and paths and all that, but if you're just cruising around it really does look and feel like you're in a city. I was thinking yesterday that they managed to make something look good without being overly complex and eating up a shitload of resources, and I can't for the life of me imagine CIG being able to get fifteen NPCs to share a cafeteria together without it going completely wrong, subsumption and all.

Have you seen people playing GTA V RP on Twitch? It's amazing how alive the city feels, when you throw a bunch of real people role-playing in.

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Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

ManofManyAliases posted:

Sprinting through that last mile Derek?

Just waiting on the release you promised.

Mother..---- Looks like DeGrasse Tyson is getting in on the bullshit; https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2000580152/neil-degrasse-tyson-presents-space-odyssey-the-vid/comments

Curiously, they use other games to pitch. 1:21 for Star Citizen.

Hav fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jun 14, 2017

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Hav posted:

Just waiting on the release you promised.

Mother..---- Looks like DeGrasse Tyson is getting in on the bullshit; https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2000580152/neil-degrasse-tyson-presents-space-odyssey-the-vid/comments

Curiously, they use other games to pitch. 1:21 for Star Citizen.

As an aside, Bill Nye Tyson's Kerbal Spore Citizen absolutely does not seem like anything I would ever want to play, and that's even if their pitch wasn't a jumbled mass of buzzwords and people who clearly have no idea what "fun" is.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010





Achamp
Oct 19, 2005
The two hhhwhat.... The two yutes your honor

Who T-poses the T-posers?

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Beet Wagon posted:

As an aside, Bill Nye Tyson's Kerbal Spore Citizen absolutely does not seem like anything I would ever want to play, and that's even if their pitch wasn't a jumbled mass of buzzwords and people who clearly have no idea what "fun" is.

http://spaceengine.org/ - Probably the preeminent screenshot generator. Not huge amounts of fun, but pitched at a price *YOU* can afford.

http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/ - Orbiter 2016 - Also priced to move. *SIM*-heavy for the man who likes to read and not *SHOWER*.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/401980/The_Universim_Demo/ - Demo for the kickstarter Universim, which *I* backed. God I hope it's not *poo poo*.

http://www.swimbots.com/ - evolutionary simulator. *STRANGELY* Arousing.

https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en/ - The Daddy. You have not *LIVED* until you've had to eva *A KERBAL* in a high parabola that stepped off the *LADDER*. Fly *EAST* young man.

http://universesandbox.com/ - Neat little physics simulator that they keep adding content to. Such as the possible distant planets in the solar system and a bunch of the exo-systems. Also pictured in the pitch for NDT's latest embarrassment, that *PLUTO HATING HACK*.

edit: Honorable mention for SAM Simulator - https://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home - "Includes accurate representations of history's most famous SAM kills...

...U-2C Spy plane over Sverdlovsk and Cuba ...

...B-52D/G Heavy bombers over Hanoi ...

... F-4E Phantoms over the Sinai ...

...F-16 and the F-117A Stealth bomber over Belgrade." - Claims accuracy to the switch for modern SAM systems, so you too can cause an international incident from the comfort of your rickety chair.


That vital, 'are we actually being chessed into this?' stage of realization.

Hav fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jun 14, 2017

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Hav posted:

Just waiting on the release you promised.

Mother..---- Looks like DeGrasse Tyson is getting in on the bullshit; https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2000580152/neil-degrasse-tyson-presents-space-odyssey-the-vid/comments

Curiously, they use other games to pitch. 1:21 for Star Citizen.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/874962867279278080
https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/874791139383160835

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
The story to Squadron 42 is literally just Wing Commander: The Movie.

And people call Chris a visionary...

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Jobbo_Fett posted:

The story to Squadron 42 is literally just Wing Commander: The Movie.

And people call Chris a visionary...

*google search "Apocalypse Now script"*

*ctrl+f "gook", ctrl+r "Vanduul"*

*ctrl+F "Kurtz", ctrl+r "Bishop"*

Job done!

Inkel
Feb 19, 2004

College Slice

Beet Wagon posted:

*google search "Apocalypse Now script"*

*ctrl+f "gook", ctrl+r "Vanduul"*

*ctrl+F "Kurtz", ctrl+r "Bishop"*

Job done!

:popeye:

This man is a visionary! Link to kickstarter, please!

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Beet Wagon posted:

*google search "Apocalypse Now script"*

*ctrl+f "gook", ctrl+r "Vanduul"*

*ctrl+F "Kurtz", ctrl+r "Bishop"*

Job done!

What did he replace "smart" with?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Colostomy Bag posted:

What did he replace "smart" with?

*ctrl+f "smart", ctrl+r "I have, to date, attempted to stay above the internet drama currently surrounding Derek Smart and his claims about Star Citizen. My feeling has been that it is most important to speak with actions instead of words, and to date I feel that we have done that with the multi crew demo, the launch of the social module and everything else you see here in this space on a daily basis. However, with the publication of today’s article (I can only call it a hit piece) on The Escapist, I believe it is necessary to address the issue directly. In the interests of openness, I am making available right now my correspondence with The Escapist’s managing editor. What follows is his original e-mail to our Director of Communications, David Swofford, and my response, sent to them three hours before their deadline and not included in the piece..."*

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Beet Wagon posted:

*ctrl+f "smart", ctrl+r "I have, to date, attempted to stay above the internet drama currently surrounding Derek Smart and his claims about Star Citizen. My feeling has been that it is most important to speak with actions instead of words, and to date I feel that we have done that with the multi crew demo, the launch of the social module and everything else you see here in this space on a daily basis. However, with the publication of today’s article (I can only call it a hit piece) on The Escapist, I believe it is necessary to address the issue directly. In the interests of openness, I am making available right now my correspondence with The Escapist’s managing editor. What follows is his original e-mail to our Director of Communications, David Swofford, and my response, sent to them three hours before their deadline and not included in the piece..."*

:vince:

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Hopefully Oldman would be the one reading that while a bubble floats from his mouth.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

I actually thought it was fake. I mean come on it has an "I need you" space poster just like SC. It does not talk about actual gameplay and instead it is just about dreams of a space game.

1500 fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jun 14, 2017

neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007

Like who invests time in playing video games?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





obey-the-fist posted:

Is that why you said I was a moron because I respect Neil deGrasse Tyson? You're such a charming fellow.

It is a sad day when we're not even safe inside our own thread, friends. :ohdear:

What shall we do, now that the Eye of the Archiver is upon us?

neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007

Ramadu posted:

Rereading it yeah that's how I would interpret it too because thinking back more wasn't the amd one told by a dude in a abar and they sent a DVD over of just the raw vids and then CC'd the whole company one some weird escapist-lite letter. Or maybe not and that's just a fevered imagining. It would be really really weird that they'd want to screw with the two biggest hardware people out there though

Where they are going they don't need hardware commando

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:
When is CIG going to bring back stretch goals? Or would that be too much of a 'money is a problem' sign for the existing suckers?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Virtual Captain posted:

When is CIG going to bring back stretch goals? Or would that be too much of a 'money is a problem' sign for the existing suckers?

I mean... is there anything left for them to promise to add at this point?

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

I do distinctly remember they flat out said "no" for mech combat.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Is it out yet

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Beet Wagon posted:

I mean... is there anything left for them to promise to add at this point?

Gameplay. :)

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007


I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem

Colostomy Bag posted:

I do distinctly remember they flat out said "no" for mech combat.

Goddamnit, I am soooo close to getting a refund.

At least cart racing is still in, right?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Tarquinn posted:

Goddamnit, I am soooo close to getting a refund.

At least cart racing is still in, right?

Should be. Along with procedural animal husbandry and skinning of humans and pets.

Wise Learned Man
Apr 22, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy

Rugganovich posted:

Well I certainly hope that 48 Hrs Non-Stop Power Leveling is worth the 80 bucks I paid.
https://www.starcitizen-store.com/star-citizen-powerleveling



What is the corpses of the Star Citizen game


Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016


How is the way CIG have done things in any way, shape, or form, better than how publishers do things?

Pretty much identical approaches, monetizing the poo poo out of everything, promising lofty goals, CIG just charge 10x the normal rate for everything because "visionary leader". The only thing CIG have done that is different is they got their money from hapless rubes rather than savy company investors. :)

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Sabreseven posted:

How is the way CIG have done things in any way, shape, or form, better than how publishers do things?

Pretty much identical approaches, monetizing the poo poo out of everything, promising lofty goals, CIG just charge 10x the normal rate for everything because "visionary leader". The only thing CIG have done that is different is they got their money from hapless rubes rather than savy company investors. :)

For the 100th time goon, every dollar raised is 4x more effective than the publisher model.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

If EA or Activision did 10% of the bullshit CIG does these same people would be screaming from the rooftops about how evil it is.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

big nipples big life posted:

If EA or Activision did 10% of the bullshit CIG does these same people would be screaming from the rooftops about how evil it is.

Mike Flynn spotted.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Beet Wagon posted:

God drat there's so much wrong with this that it's hard to even know where to start. I mean I feel like the obvious starting point is laughing at the idea that Crobblers is a popular public figure, but maybe the weird deification of known science talking man Neil deGrasse Tyson is actually more telling about what kind of moron obey is.

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Sabreseven posted:

How is the way CIG have done things in any way, shape, or form, better than how publishers do things?

Pretty much identical approaches, monetizing the poo poo out of everything, promising lofty goals, CIG just charge 10x the normal rate for everything because "visionary leader". The only thing CIG have done that is different is they got their money from hapless rubes rather than savy company investors. :)

Each of these is a checkmate on it's own, but I will deign to respond as if you are being serious:

1. Open Development. No publisher has ever allowed open development of this unprecedented depth and scale.

2. Pushed forward game tech by at least a few decades. All other publishers are Too Scared to do this.

3. Allowed unprecedented freedom, where Design Is Law.

4. Derek Smart has never made a game.

5. Pledges is not money, it is hopes and dreams made manifest. They are not greedy, they are a vessel that WE are Deciding to Fill using Disposable Income. How much do your hobbies cost anyway? What are you, poor?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
https://twitter.com/SC_Logicorp/status/874226326424743937
https://twitter.com/G_Fenech/status/874600106158370821
https://twitter.com/iq_derek/status/874957131870502912

Deathsquid
Apr 26, 2017

Colostomy Bag posted:

I do distinctly remember they flat out said "no" for mech combat.

Yeah, but that's only because they already have combat that's pretty meh, and it's just one letter's difference.

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

Sum Mors posted:

I found your cake stuff interesting, but it is mostly lies based on a grain of truth.

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/cakemix.asp

i stand corrected.

But the rest of the idea is still sound. You have to give a little immersion to your players regarding mission briefing/quests. Too much is bad (like in COH early days where you had to walk back to the quest giver at the other end of the city to turn in completed missions) but too little is worse, making the world feel empty and unlived in.

This can be used if your aiming for the "Are you sure your more than just a machine ?" cyberpunk ambiance where you get missions in real time via reticular implants, locked in your own little bubble of corporate hell but i dont think this is what SC "bespoke space bar/ camping fire beside landed ship" aim for.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Deathsquid posted:

Yeah, but that's only because they already have combat that's pretty meh, and it's just one letter's difference.

They missed a big opportunity with mech concept sales. They could of sold the "Fatlus" for a few hundred.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Mirificus fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jun 14, 2017

Deathsquid
Apr 26, 2017

Colostomy Bag posted:

They missed a big opportunity with mech concept sales. They could of sold the "Fatlus" for a few hundred.

What if a space ship could transform into a giant battle robot, a transmorpher, if you will? What if several ship robot transmorphers could combine into one giant spaceship or robot, perhaps a Fooltron-class battle platform?

~~dreams~~

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BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
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ATTAAAACK


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