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Beastie posted:Maybe we can spin it back to a gun control problem? Let's assume 'no' on that.
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Frankly, if the left wasn't done in the US for the next couple generations already, it is now. Nobody in power would ever call something like this right-wing terrorism if it happened in reverse, but the right gets away with a lot that the left never will. I can't help but feel like it's about time to expatriate if you haven't already and you have the means. I'm probably wrong. I tend to catastrophize. But it's hard not to see the writing on the wall here.
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Crazies belong to every party. But conservative spin is more powerful than liberal spin. This is going to gently caress liberalism and leftism in this country far more than it'd hurt conservatism if all participants parties' were reversed.
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How did he find out about this baseball practice? A random leftist retiree makes no sense. Someone with intel whispered him.
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I'm pretty sure only the people who were shot will remember this by next week. Do they really want to open up gun control debates? Do you really think that there won't be some giant scandal that overshadows this?
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I suppose the one bright spot is that this guy didn't die at the scene, as these maniacs so often do. At least we'll get some answers out of him before he gets locked away for life.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:He's been IDed, but not much info.
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Covok posted:Dude is a hard-left berniecrat. This gonna suck. Expect rightwingers to get more fascist, dems to become weak and bipartisan out of fear, and the Republicans using this to "get a win" like firing Muller or passing the AHCA. Literally only the first one is going to happen.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I'm pretty sure only the people who were shot will remember this by next week. Yeah people need to calm down, this will be out of the news by next Monday.
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Moxie posted:How did he find out about this baseball practice? A random leftist retiree makes no sense. Someone with intel whispered him. Probably. And I wouldn't rule out personal health problems as a motivating factor.
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Moxie posted:How did he find out about this baseball practice? A random leftist retiree makes no sense. Someone with intel whispered him.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I'm pretty sure only the people who were shot will remember this by next week. The presidential election was decided by motherfucking unsecured emails. They're never going to stop beating this drum.
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"He's crazy" is still a very powerful narrative when white men are shooters. This is way less likely to blow up than if it were literally anyone else. The stabbing racist guy in Portland had Bernie poo poo on his facebook too.
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Harrow posted:Frankly, if the left wasn't done in the US for the next couple generations already, it is now. Nobody in power would ever call something like this right-wing terrorism if it happened in reverse, but the right gets away with a lot that the left never will. Yeah, you're catastrophizing.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I'm pretty sure only the people who were shot will remember this by next week. Conservatives will be screaming about this for the rest of eternity every time one of theirs hurts someone
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Glazier posted:Yeah people need to calm down, this will be out of the news by next Monday. I dunno, man. This looks pretty bad.
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Spiritus Nox posted:The presidential election was decided by motherfucking unsecured emails. Yes, and as soon as he runs for President, I'm sure it'll be a thing.
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Guys I discovered a loophole. Bernie is not a Democrat. Case closed.
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business hammocks posted:"He's crazy" is still a very powerful narrative when white men are shooters. This is way less likely to blow up than if it were literally anyone else. The stabbing racist guy in Portland had Bernie poo poo on his facebook too. He was stabbing brown folks, not a GOP senator.
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Beastie posted:Bad news guys, the dude's FB has a Bernie pic: time to own it leftists oppress the right with fear and violence (i don't really mean that) (it's a fun thought)
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Pollyanna posted:I dunno, man. This looks pretty bad. Nah, no one died and the guy was white.
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Harrow posted:Frankly, if the left wasn't done in the US for the next couple generations already, it is now. Nobody in power would ever call something like this right-wing terrorism if it happened in reverse, but the right gets away with a lot that the left never will. RottenK posted:Conservatives will be screaming about this for the rest of eternity every time one of theirs hurts someone Spiritus Nox posted:The presidential election was decided by motherfucking unsecured emails. God, can't believe we just lost 2018 and 2020 in one go (sarcasm).
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Florida Betty posted:Yeah, you're catastrophizing. Seriously. A goddamn school full of dead kids barely older than toddlers didn't change anything. In a week or two this will be reduced to a piece of bar trivia.
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Tayter Swift posted:Weird, didn't think grover was that old. lol
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Oh god no. Now right-wingers are gonna It's all over boys, time to pack it in.
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The Democratic Party will be labeled a terrorist organization and criminalizes by noon today as a direct result, and nuclear war will be declared upon California, Washington and Hawaii. A constitutional amendment will force the moon to spiral inwards and crash into Mexico.
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jeremy posted:Crazies belong to every party. But conservative spin is more powerful than liberal spin. Exactly. All you need to see to realize that is how the narrative is already that this guy is a terrorist, but if he were a right-winger, the word "terrorist" would never be applied here.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I'm pretty sure only the people who were shot will remember this by next week. People are still talking about Kathy Griffin. They'll probably be talking about this for a while. Town halls are probably over for a while.
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Pollyanna posted:I dunno, man. This looks pretty bad. do you think this is the 'Reichstag Fire' they needed to invoke 1000 years of conservative darkness
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"I can't believe they would be so vicious", says man who on the news labeled Democrats as "not people".
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Gustav posted:Oh god no. Now right-wingers are gonna Here's the thing: this time they're right. A left-winger shot people. It's different when it isn't conspiracy theorizing. This lends actual credence to all the "radical violent left" stuff--it's not just what they're saying anymore. Now there's a specific, proven circumstance they can point to as proof. This is not going to go away quietly.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:People are still talking about Kathy Griffin. They'll probably be talking about this for a while. Town halls are probably over for a while. You say "people" but I feel like it's mostly crazy right wing twitter and facebook. Yes, I'm sure this will be something else that gets tossed out in an argument in like 2 years when someone is talking about the next 15 times some white guy with a gun goes nuts to play up "both sides" but let's not pretend that this or Kathy Griffin will have any real bearing except being the easy to shriek about bullshit to distract from actual issues.
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Harrow posted:Frankly, if the left wasn't done in the US for the next couple generations already, it is now. Nobody in power would ever call something like this right-wing terrorism if it happened in reverse, but the right gets away with a lot that the left never will. holy poo poo, listen to this guy. the left is done because of some crazy guy shot up some lawmakers but who didn't kill anyone? go take a loving break from politics man.
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Push El Burrito posted:"I can't believe they would be so vicious", says man who on the news labeled Democrats as "not people". Lol was it Scalise who said that?
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Tir McDohl posted:Lol was it Scalise who said that? Mo Brooks.
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