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Google Butt posted:Does anyone have the info graphic that shows the time spent creating the ACA vs the AHCA and other differences? https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/874694617656111108
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Is it normal for hospitals to just straight up tweet out how their patients are doing? I get this is newsworthy but always thought there was a layer of health privacy expected.
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Hollismason posted:What's the absolute worst position. Trump will take because he is going to take that one. Im gonna predict more than one journalist is going to be injured/shot in the next three months.
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Alter Ego posted:This doesn't tally at all with what MSNBC was saying earlier--that he was in stable condition and in good spirits. e: Hobo Clown posted:Is it normal for hospitals to just straight up tweet out how their patients are doing? I get this is newsworthy but always thought there was a layer of health privacy expected.
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Two of the Turkish guys beating people up on video have been arrested: https://twitter.com/robbiegramer/status/875052619881992192
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marshmonkey posted:Two of the Turkish guys beating people up on video have been arrested: Well that's some good news.
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Pollyanna posted:Wait, are people taking this as an excuse to send death threats to Democrats? The gently caress? They were already doing that before.
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Trabisnikof posted:The shooting that left 2 dead victims in SF should be a bigger deal than a shooting where no one died except the shooter. dozens dead in london today because capitalism demanded extremely flammable cladding be added to a tower to make the view out of millionaire's windows look slightly nicer is also a bigger story by far i have not one singular thought nor prayer to spare for the racist jackasses actively trying to kill millions of americans by getting rid of their healthcare right this moment. they won't even end up bankrupt over the er fees
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Man, I hate it when Republicans win. They are going to keep winning for a few weeks because of some lunatic. Might even sneak in the AHCA.
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Wark Say posted:Jesus poo poo: Why is gun legislation/control that much of an loving issue in the USA? If you tell me "It's a multi-billion dollar industry", bull-loving-poo poo. Thousands of people dead every year because of a 'multi-billion dollar industry' looks sketchy as gently caress no matter which way you slice it. That's almost 7000 people dead this year alone because of gun-related violence, and we're still not technically half-way through the year. In a lot of areas, it's a cultural thing, stemming from the fact that like 85% of the US's land area was semi-independent unclaimed frontier with no formal authorities beyond the local sheriff until about a century ago. Guns formed the backbone of how the rich oppressed the poor, how whites oppressed blacks. After the end of Reconstruction in the South, armed ad-hoc militias literally overthrew local governments by force. When Jim Crow was instituted, the guy with a gun at every polling place anywhere near a black area was the one who enforced it. Firearms are the instrument that were used to forge and protect every kind of inequality and oppression in all of American history. There's a deep cultural bond there; unregulated rifle ownership is as essential to American culture as oppressing the Irish and burning down poor slums is to English culture.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Like 5 Presidents were outright assassinated over the course of a century not too far back really. Politicians in this country have never been safer. And Reagan was almost assassinated within the lifespan of many posters here - though that was the odd one out, as the shooter was not politically motivated at all and actually mentally ill.
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Pollyanna posted:Wait, are people taking this as an excuse to send death threats to Democrats? The gently caress? Expect some violence specifically targeting a democrat this week while altright media whips people into a frenzy, which will hopefully die down after a week and people forget about this.
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quote:Former Alexandria mayor Bill Euille said he had talked with alleged shooter James T. Hodgkinson nearly every morning for the past month and a half and even tried to help him find a job after he realized that the man was living out of his gym bag. https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ria-mayor-says/
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I dunno even with this according to republican doctrine he was still a responsible gun owner (and therefore a patriot) right up until he opened fire this morning
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Main Paineframe posted:In a lot of areas, it's a cultural thing, stemming from the fact that like 85% of the US's land area was semi-independent unclaimed frontier with no formal authorities beyond the local sheriff until about a century ago. Guns formed the backbone of how the rich oppressed the poor, how whites oppressed blacks. After the end of Reconstruction in the South, armed ad-hoc militias literally overthrew local governments by force. When Jim Crow was instituted, the guy with a gun at every polling place anywhere near a black area was the one who enforced it. Firearms are the instrument that were used to forge and protect every kind of inequality and oppression in all of American history. There's a deep cultural bond there; unregulated rifle ownership is as essential to American culture as oppressing the Irish and burning down poor slums is to English culture. And really guns are just a part of life in rural areas. You hunt. You shoot for fun. You can defend yourself, because you're the only one living at the end of a dirt road. The popularity of guns in suburban settings is what's so bizarre to me.
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So the requirements for being a judge is just have a pulse? I remember some jokes about Obama(or alt. timeline Clinton) being able to nominate anyone to SCOTUS and I guess that's also true at lower levels? PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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2nd admendment should be repealed and the government should seize all guns in the nation and melt them down for resources.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:The popularity of guns in suburban settings is what's so bizarre to me. It's part of the weird rural aesthetic fetish that many white suburbanites are consumed by. I went to high school in the wealthiest county in the nation per capita, and the amount of rich kids driving pickup trucks (complete with traitor flag stickers) and wearing camo to school was hilarious. All of which was paid for by daddy's defense contractor IT job.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/pbump/status/875059797716086784 False flag. Clearly he's fine, but the ReTHUGlicans want it to seem more serious so they forced the hospital to say he's fighting for his life. WAKE UP SHEEPLE. ...mostly joking. Not joking quite as much as I'd like to be. Good thing he didn't spend those weeks learning how to aim.
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I asked it before and I think it is with reiterating: was this guy a Vietnam vet? Anyone know his military status? He would be the right age.
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I wonder if there will really be any political consequence of this. Is it possible there are people stupid enough to say "I didn't support stripping healthcare from millions, but I do now because of that shooter."?
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Hellblazer187 posted:I wonder if there will really be any political consequence of this. Is it possible there are people stupid enough to say "I didn't support stripping healthcare from millions, but I do now because of that shooter."? I highly doubt it. Anything that comes from this will be new laws cracking down on protesters or journalists reporting on Republican evil. I can't imagine the voters that are going to vote for a Republican in a year because some guy outside their district got shot by some old white dude. In a week they will have squandered this by saying that all Democrats are violent monsters.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I wonder if there will really be any political consequence of this. Is it possible there are people stupid enough to say "I didn't support stripping healthcare from millions, but I do now because of that shooter."? Unlikely, IMO. People that dumb and unhinged are already onboard with Trump. I think most Americans who aren't firmly in one camp or another just see this as the Republicans failing to keep the peace, which is a good thing for us.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I wonder if there will really be any political consequence of this. Is it possible there are people stupid enough to say "I didn't support stripping healthcare from millions, but I do now because of that shooter."? We shouldn't back down from passing healthcare reform because someone shot at our elected officials. If anything, it is more important than ever to do so and show that terrorism can't achieve the political results it wants. I don't agree with the bill, but I would let it pass to stand up for the principle and show that we are united as a country against political violence.
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Radish posted:I highly doubt it. Anything that comes from this will be new laws cracking down on protesters or journalists reporting on Republican evil. I can't imagine the voters that are going to vote for a Republican in a year because some guy outside their district got shot by some old white dude. Yeah, that's my impression too. I saw some posters saying "republicans are winning" because of this and I'm scratching my head. That might also be fleas, though.
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Wark Say posted:They all felt like really trite, oh not to be a jerk but your complaint wasn't exactly filled with intellectual pondering either gun violence and the proliferation of gun ownership in the us is a very tough thing to solve for. there is no one factor that is to blame in every instance of gun violence but mental illness coupled with the availability of guns seems to be a huge factor in perpetuating the epidemic, and facts bear that out. the gun lobby, as well as a strong national sentiment supporting the second amendment provides a massive bulwark against both treating the symptoms as well as the root causes of gun violence. the gun lobby, being the horrible greedy capitalists you mentioned, and the population being generationally tricked into believing that the only true way to protect ourselves is with firearms. what depth of conversation are you looking for here?
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Republicans are going to ram in a lovely healthcare bill regardless.Hellblazer187 posted:Yeah, that's my impression too. I saw some posters saying "republicans are winning" because of this and I'm scratching my head. That might also be fleas, though. Like there will be some media pundits pushing this and there will be some thoughts and prayers, but the party has so thoroughly pushed *wink wink* second amendment solutions and their base are already screaming for literal blood in repayment that I can't see what they are really gaining from any of this. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Well that's some good news. literally word for word what went through my pea-sized brain rn
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Wark Say posted:Jesus poo poo: Why is gun legislation/control that much of an loving issue in the USA?.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:It is a little upsetting that a shooting where nobody was seriously injured is looking to blow up harder then the portland stabbings or orlando shooting or insert a dozen other acts of violence. The House majority whip is in critical condition.
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who wants to be the first to call this economic anxiety
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I don't agree with the bill, but I would let it pass to stand up for the principle and show that we are united as a country against political violence. ah, you're one of those spineless pieces of poo poo who would have voted for the iraq war and then made excuses later
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Fox News has drawn battle lines over this so, sorry if I don't give a poo poo people are insulting Republicans still.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Yeah, that's my impression too. I saw some posters saying "republicans are winning" because of this and I'm scratching my head. That might also be fleas, though. That's just Covok, who would let us know that the GOP is actually winning if all Republicans in the country suddenly had fatal heart attacks.
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The house majority whip being shot is bigger news than rando civilians being killed, sorry to say. Unfortunately that's because one is a novel event and the other happens all the loving time.
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One of the injured in the Congressional baseball shooting was a lobbyist for Tyson Foods, who was a player on the GOP team despite the fact that he'd been a private lobbyist since Obama's inauguration.
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Covok posted:2nd admendment should be repealed and the government should seize all guns in the nation and melt them down for resources. We have no butter, but I ask you /Would you rather have butter or guns? /Shall we import lard or steel? Let me tell you /Preparedness makes us powerful. /Butter merely makes us fat.
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