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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Everything makes sense now.

Seriously, get your dad an account. PYF China's own genestealer.

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Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:

This is a Michael Chugani article. Chugani's raison d'être is to be a pro-HK establishment shill who also has a hard-on for the Han master race. He constantly writes about ungrateful HK youth who should shut up and be proud to integrate HK into the glorious People's Republic, while hoping people forget he has American citizenship.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:
Haier post more cool stories about your dad

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Haier posted:

That guy's 30! Wow

Health care system in Korea is not retarded

Therefore, patient pays, eg, like equivalent of $2-4k for appendectomy and the equivalent of like $5 for a checkup

The federal insurance dealio, however, doesn't cover plastic surgery

There's a huge overpopulation of doctors because the national health service basically made it that way, so they could make medical services real cheap

Which means that many doctors realized they could charge like 10 grand for plastic surgery and not deal too much with the national health service reimbursements, which are less nightmarish than Medicare in the US but only a bit less

This, and genetics and lack of smoking, is the foundation of why folks can look that young

The plastic surgeons nowadays know about the samey look problem too, btw, they are educated professionals

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Outrail posted:

Everything makes sense now.

Seriously, get your dad an account. PYF China's own genestealer.

Does that mean haiers grandpa is 12 feet tall, purple and white and capable of mind control

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Outrail posted:

PYF China's own genestealer.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

curufinor posted:

Health care system in Korea is not retarded

lol yes, it is significantly retarded.

Gynecology is not covered.

Mental healthcare is not covered because of social stigma against the mentally ill.

They give you a placebo shot IN THE rear end for EVERYTHING. "I have a cold," needle in your rear end. "I have a rash," needle in your rear end.

They don't listen to a loving word you say and will dispense antibiotics for EVERYTHING.

I had some kind of respiratory ailment for more than six weeks. I had coughed so hard for so long that I permanently damaged my vocal cords (can't hit the high note in Livin' on a Prayer anymore), neither i nor my husband had slept in weeks because the coughing shook the bed, I cracked a loving RIB from coughing. I kept going to the ENT near my school and he kept handing me piles of pills and NOTHING got better. The only thing that gave me any relief was the "magic red juice," which I believe was hydrocodone and didn't exactly make for a productive life. I finally bit the bullet and went through the song-and-dance of "I'm a human, too, and I need to go to the doctor, so will you PLEASE let me go to the loving doctor downtown" with my school. Western-trained doctor who spoke fluent English and basically kept the entire foreign community in that city together. He took one look at me and said, "This is a virus, not an infection," and gave me something that cleared it up in THREE DAYS.

Oh, and let's not even go into the time said cool doc refilled my American Ativan scrip so I could get on a plane without screaming in terror. You know your medical info is available to your employer in Korea, right? Yeah. That was a fun week of people shunning me because I was "crazy."

So, yes. It is retarded. It is cheap and doctors are plentiful and you rarely have to wait long for a typical office visit, but it is still quite retarded.

All healthcare systems are pretty hosed, so don't argue with me by saying "it's better than the US." ALMOST ANYTHING IS, MAN.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I am starting to think that Asia outside of Japan is actually just the biggest cargo cult in history

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Fojar38 posted:

I am starting to think that Asia outside of Japan is actually just the biggest cargo cult in history

Japanese medical care almost killed me, if you want stories about that, too!

ASK ME about peeing blood while a woman with a Chip n' Dale wristwatch impassively times you while watching.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

ASK ME about peeing blood while a woman with a Chip n' Dale wristwatch impassively times you while watching.

hitting all my fetish triggers at once

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

ladron posted:

hitting all my fetish triggers at once

Add one more: she was wearing a pristine white nurse's uniform, little hat and all.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Japanese medical care almost killed me, if you want stories about that, too!

ASK ME about peeing blood while a woman with a Chip n' Dale wristwatch impassively times you while watching.

Uh yeah, please tell me about peeing blood while a woman with a Chip n' Dale wristwatch impassively times you while watching.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
Holy poo poo. I think I know who Haiers dad is.




















http://i.imgur.com/UAZBMVh.jpg

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Japanese medical care almost killed me, if you want stories about that, too!

ASK ME about peeing blood while a woman with a Chip n' Dale wristwatch impassively times you while watching.

I was in Japan once and that did not happen to me.

Just saying.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I've been to Japan three times and the only things that died were my wallet, my soul, my ability to deal at all with China, and my waifu.

What I'm saying is Japan is good.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Add one more: she was wearing a pristine white nurse's uniform, little hat and all.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Outrail posted:

Uh yeah, please tell me about peeing blood while a woman with a Chip n' Dale wristwatch impassively times you while watching.

Well,

I started getting really really sweaty and had no interest in food whatsoever for about a week. I distinctly remember buying some anko mochi- my all-time favorite dessert- and throwing half of it away after having to literally force myself to eat it. I was also drinking a lot because I was dating the crazy Australian alcoholic (although for me, "a lot" means, like, four beers in two days).

One night I started having what I thought were menstrual cramps. I figured, meh, okay, bought a six-pack and went home. Couldn't drink a single one.

Oh, hey, uncontrollable full-body chills, you say?

I lay on my guesthouse bed/plank of wood for almost two hours, shaking so hard and absolutely FROZEN. Like I literally thought I'd die of hypothermia, for some reason I thought I must have somehow lowered my body temperature to the point where I gave myself hypothermia in Tokyo in February. I was screaming for help at the top of my lungs whenever I could get enough breath between spasms to scream, but no one came. I couldn't reach my phone. I couldn't get to the door. I made it about halfway across the floor, crawling, at one point, but that's as far as I got. Finally, the chills stopped and I passed out.

Woke up, couldn't really move, in horrible pain. Had my boyfriend take me to the local hospital where they diagnosed me with "eating too much Western food. Japanese food is very healthy. No more stomach problems" until I went to use the toilet and filled it with blood.

"Oh, you have a kidney stone! Yes, a Western diet is very bad. Too much meat." (I was a vegetarian and had been my whole life). So they gave me painkillers to shove up my rear end. Seriously, they were shaped like a little rocket ship.

Somehow made it through the next FIVE DAYS (Japanese people will be really mad if you take a sick day! I just got here and I don't know how to go to the doctor!) until I finally passed out at work. Faceplanted right on the carpet, rug burns on my face. They made me finish out the evening classes before calling an ambulance.

The EMT said, "Tell me if this hurts" and loving punched me in the kidneys. Yes, it loving hurt.

They tested my amazing red peepee- "Oh, you have a kidney infection."

ffffffffffffffffffff

So I had somehow gotten an infection, in my kidneys. E. Coli. I blame penis.

Thank god I was at a fancy hospital for fancy foreigners and got my own room. I passed out.

When I woke up, my mom was there! How nice.

"They told me it was a next-of-kin call."

See, in Japan (and Korea, to an extent) it is believed that letting people know that a terminal or very serious diagnosis makes things worse for the patient. So someone at least had the goodness to tell my mother that I was in serious danger.

I was in that hospital for a week. The only reason I lasted that long- they wanted to keep me for a month- is because of my primary physician, who had been introduced to me by some lowhanging scrote of a Big Manly Doctor as "She speak English kind of okay" and she snapped, "Actually, I just completed a residency in London, so it's more than 'okay.'" Brass ovaries, you are my girl forever. We still email sometimes.

Anyways, every time I peed or pooped, they had to watch me and time how long it took me to finish. then they'd whisk away the cup thingy in the toilet (it had measurements on it) for tests, or maybe sexy rituals, I don't even know. But I just remember this nurse staring at me from underneath her little 1950s throwback nursing cap, smiling blandly as she watched bloody urine come out of me into a cup, and timing how long it took with her Disney watch.

The seconds piece was a little acorn that floated around.


Also, the only DVD they had in English was Hudson Hawk. I still can't look at Bruce Willis without getting all sweaty.

e: Also they would ask me really involved and specific questions about my poop- color, size, consistency, etc.- whenever I had a boy visiting.
ee: They later misdiagnosed me when I had the swine flu as having strep. DO NOT GET THE SWINE FLU.

Fleta Mcgurn fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 15, 2017

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Hudson Hawk is an entertaining film.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

lol yes, it is significantly retarded.

Gynecology is not covered.

Mental healthcare is not covered because of social stigma against the mentally ill.

They give you a placebo shot IN THE rear end for EVERYTHING. "I have a cold," needle in your rear end. "I have a rash," needle in your rear end.

They don't listen to a loving word you say and will dispense antibiotics for EVERYTHING.

I had some kind of respiratory ailment for more than six weeks. I had coughed so hard for so long that I permanently damaged my vocal cords (can't hit the high note in Livin' on a Prayer anymore), neither i nor my husband had slept in weeks because the coughing shook the bed, I cracked a loving RIB from coughing. I kept going to the ENT near my school and he kept handing me piles of pills and NOTHING got better. The only thing that gave me any relief was the "magic red juice," which I believe was hydrocodone and didn't exactly make for a productive life. I finally bit the bullet and went through the song-and-dance of "I'm a human, too, and I need to go to the doctor, so will you PLEASE let me go to the loving doctor downtown" with my school. Western-trained doctor who spoke fluent English and basically kept the entire foreign community in that city together. He took one look at me and said, "This is a virus, not an infection," and gave me something that cleared it up in THREE DAYS.

Oh, and let's not even go into the time said cool doc refilled my American Ativan scrip so I could get on a plane without screaming in terror. You know your medical info is available to your employer in Korea, right? Yeah. That was a fun week of people shunning me because I was "crazy."

So, yes. It is retarded. It is cheap and doctors are plentiful and you rarely have to wait long for a typical office visit, but it is still quite retarded.

All healthcare systems are pretty hosed, so don't argue with me by saying "it's better than the US." ALMOST ANYTHING IS, MAN.

Mental healthcare is actually covered drat well, but a lot of the funding goes to "burly men lock you up in a straitjacket" poo poo for psychosis (in America you just become homeless). Medicine for mental health is covered, so is therapy, at least in the nhs policy. I don't know what wasnt covered in your case. Maybe your GP was a fuckwad

To my knowledge there are good therapists and bad but for obvious reasons almost all of both do their work only in Korean. SNU international center for example has some psych folks who know English, and lot of expat forums talk about that stuff.

The stigma is society being hosed, less the system of health care

As for gynecology not being covered, i did say Confucianism was the most systematically misogynist philosophy in history

Antibiotics, yeah it's stupid

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

curufinor posted:

Mental healthcare is actually covered drat well, but a lot of the funding goes to "burly men lock you up in a straitjacket" poo poo for psychosis (in America you just become homeless). Medicine for mental health is covered, so is therapy, at least in the nhs policy. I don't know what wasnt covered in your case. Maybe your GP was a fuckwad

To my knowledge there are good therapists and bad but for obvious reasons almost all of both do their work only in Korean. SNU international center for example has some psych folks who know English, and lot of expat forums talk about that stuff.

The stigma is society being hosed, less the system of health care

As for gynecology not being covered, i did say Confucianism was the most systematically misogynist philosophy in history

Antibiotics, yeah it's stupid

I don't really understand why you're bringing up the NHS- ironically, the best healthcare I've ever received was when I was in the UK, despite everyone being mad at the NHS- but I would argue that a poor standard of care and/or inability of the public to seek care due to stigma and a lack of medical privacy and/or the institutionalized marginalization of women and/or refusing to listen to patients whatsoever are all hallmarks of a hosed medical care system regardless of societal factors. I don't mean to be aggressively negative here, but it is Not Okay. And comparing it to other countries and saying "Yeah, we can do better than [X country]" doesn't make that system less hosed in actuality, just in comparison.

Also, I was not looking for mental healthcare (friends who did or do require psychiatric or psychological care in Korea did it over Skype) and I didn't have a GP. Who has a GP in Korea? You have to go to specialists for every dang thing.

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Fleta Mcgurn posted:



Oh, and let's not even go into the time said cool doc refilled my American Ativan scrip so I could get on a plane without screaming in terror. You know your medical info is available to your employer in Korea, right? Yeah. That was a fun week of people shunning me because I was "crazy."


Yeah, ok. That is at least a "Molotov cocktail through a window" worthy offense. Maybe something actually nasty, and not just street protest level of anger. Jesus.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Sorry if I sound grumpy, guys. It's because I'm really grumpy.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


One of my friends really liked Korea but left because she was sick of being dragged into the principal's office and yelled at for being a whore every time she got a refill on her birth control pills.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Sorry if I sound grumpy, guys. It's because I'm really grumpy.

Yea you sound like a real drag tbh

e] Now, Old Man Haier, there's someone I wanna hear more of :munch:

Radical 90s Wizard fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jun 15, 2017

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Whatever, you aren't even a real wizard. :colbert:

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Living overseas makes you appreciate how good we actually have it back home.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

hakimashou posted:

Living overseas makes you appreciate how good we actually have it back home.

it made me appreciate decent mexican food*

*living in mexico is the exception here

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Grand Fromage posted:

One of my friends really liked Korea but left because she was sick of being dragged into the principal's office and yelled at for being a whore every time she got a refill on her birth control pills.

How did they even know?

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

curufinor posted:

Health care system in Korea is not retarded

Therefore, patient pays, eg, like equivalent of $2-4k for appendectomy and the equivalent of like $5 for a checkup

The federal insurance dealio, however, doesn't cover plastic surgery

There's a huge overpopulation of doctors because the national health service basically made it that way, so they could make medical services real cheap

Which means that many doctors realized they could charge like 10 grand for plastic surgery and not deal too much with the national health service reimbursements, which are less nightmarish than Medicare in the US but only a bit less

This, and genetics and lack of smoking, is the foundation of why folks can look that young

The plastic surgeons nowadays know about the samey look problem too, btw, they are educated professionals

You forgot BB Cream. Lots and lots of BB cream. Powder. Eye liner. Foundation. Lip gloss. BB cream.***

***This is all just for the dudes.

Edit: Electrolysis. Botox. Collagen injections. Tiger penis pills.

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011
Actually the only thing I miss about the US is some kinds of food and weed. I go to a research university hospital for my gut problems I had before coming to Japan and if anything else crops up and it has been mostly a good experience. There can be some annoying poo poo sometimes but it's still way better than the US. Just don't go to old doctors, they might prescribe you TCM.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here
*gets shot*

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Accretionist posted:

How did they even know?



Fleta Mcgurn posted:

You know your medical info is available to your employer in Korea, right? Yeah. That was a fun week of people shunning me because I was "crazy."

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011
This thread has largely reinforced my thoughts that going to Japan over other East Asian countries to live in was the right choice.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

I don't really understand why you're bringing up the NHS- ironically, the best healthcare I've ever received was when I was in the UK, despite everyone being mad at the NHS- but I would argue that a poor standard of care and/or inability of the public to seek care due to stigma and a lack of medical privacy and/or the institutionalized marginalization of women and/or refusing to listen to patients whatsoever are all hallmarks of a hosed medical care system regardless of societal factors. I don't mean to be aggressively negative here, but it is Not Okay. And comparing it to other countries and saying "Yeah, we can do better than [X country]" doesn't make that system less hosed in actuality, just in comparison.

Also, I was not looking for mental healthcare (friends who did or do require psychiatric or psychological care in Korea did it over Skype) and I didn't have a GP. Who has a GP in Korea? You have to go to specialists for every dang thing.

Korean healthcare service's name, translated, is the nhs

I mean, it's still allowed to have a gp, it's just that the phenomenon that there is in America where the gp's are turbofucked is stronger in Korea.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Dr.Radical posted:

This thread has largely reinforced my thoughts that going to Japan over other East Asian countries to live in was the right choice.

you could have gone to Taiwan, dummy

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Y'all know that feel when you're tired of Chinese food and you go to the foreigny supermarket and they got that deli with non-Chinese stuff going on and you find your take-out box? That's a good feel.



They had pasta salad last time, but spaghetti will do. Cheese potatoes was p good. I still had to eat it all with chopsticks though. SAD.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I made my own spectacular pasta salad shortly after I arrived in China last time. One of my coworkers took all the leftovers home. She has since gotten fat.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

curufinor posted:

...
(frankly, if Americans didn't have HIPPA, I could easily imagine a completely identical scenario in the deep rural South. thank Kennedy I guess)
...

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3792439&perpage=40&pagenumber=214#post473412451

lol

curufinor fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Jun 16, 2017

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Grand Fromage posted:

One of my friends really liked Korea but left because she was sick of being dragged into the principal's office and yelled at for being a whore every time she got a refill on her birth control pills.

Coworker of mine had this happen exactly 0.25 times.

She had been in Korea for about 3 months and had run out of her birth control. She had read up before, and knew it was easy to get, so she just assumed there would be no issues. A couple of weeks after she got her first refill the director called her and her Korean coteacher into his office and the conversation went like this.

(as described over beers that night by my coworker and her coteacher)

Him: "You know that being a teacher in Korea requires that you keep up a proper appearance, right?"
Her: "Yes . . . (thinking that someone from work saw her with her black boyfriend and passed it on to the director)"
Him: "Well you have to have a very moral character if you want to work here."
Her: "Yes . . . <preparing to tell him her boyfriend is none of his business>
Him: <pulls out paper> "Here it says that you have been buying birth control pills. . .
Her: <moves face to within an inch of his> "HOW IN THE gently caress IS THAT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS? WHY THE gently caress ARE YOU SPYING ON ME?"
Him: <possibly pees a little>
Her: "IF YOU BRING THIS UP AGAIN YOU PIECE OF poo poo IT WILL BE A BIG PROBLEM FOR YOU!"
Him: <chin is firmly imprinted into his chest> "Ok, you can go..."

She was a 24 year old, 6' ex hockey player from Nova Scotia, so I have no doubt that the director feared for his life. The teachers who remained after I left joked that he ran away with the school's money to New Zealand because of that incident. The funny thing is, because of face culture he can't do anything about it because it would mean that he was threatened or frightened by a foreign woman. Hell, she could have probably slugged him and he would have had no recourse but to just take it because of the possible face loss of being beaten by a girl.

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Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I am assuming these men dont know how the pill works right? that its kinda a maintenance medication that you use everyday rather than when you want to bone.

Are women suppose to hold on to their "virtue" untill marriage? or are they suppose to put out.

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