Blaze Dragon posted:You're happier that way, believe me. No one deserves to watch Prince of Darkness. I was planning on watching it because SRW is raising so many questions about what goes on between now and the movie, but is it really that bad? What's wrong with it?
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Jun 7, 2017 23:20
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PoD kind of feels like the type of story Nadesico set out to satirize to begin with, but played without much of the self-awareness that made the show stand out. Ruri is made the lead and doesn't work too well in that role, Akito has become an edgy 90's XTREME humorless character, Yurika is barely in the movie etc. I think its worth watching at least once just for how infamous it is.
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Jun 7, 2017 23:30
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So, PoD is infamous for how dramatic the tone shift is. It also relies on you having played a SegaCD visual novel that filled in the plot going from post series to PoD. So Just same as above, Ruri is the lead, Akito is turned into Dark Knight Returns Batman. Yurika is barely in the movie and the times she is makes you wish otherwise. There's a few good mech fights and the Black Selena rules, but overall it stomps all over what the first show was about. Original series Nadesico got serious at Times, but I still feel that it's this really fun, loving show that cares about the cast and audience. I actually don't hate PoD as a standalone title. I think if it didn't say Nadesico on it then it could be a Zeorymer-like show where the mech action is really fun and nonsensical, but everything else is chiched and riffable. The fact is says Nadesico on it ruins all of that and takes away from a show that genuinely stuck with me. SethSeries fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 23:56
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Prince of Darkness has a few decent scenes with some of the supporting cast. It's not a particularly good movie but I feel like its badness gets played up way too much. Despite the script being fairly bad it's directed well enough that it's a quick watch.
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Jun 8, 2017 00:16
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I have not watched PoD, but I'm a little suspect that it's that much a departure from the show's tone, given that Nadesico was an incredibly pessimistic show beneath it's cheerful veneer.
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Jun 8, 2017 00:25
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Nadesico handled the balancing act well. PoD does not. People are not exaggerating when they say that Akito becomes Dark Knight Returns Batman. He is described as having a voice that sounds like he is being crushed in a vice.
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Jun 8, 2017 00:33
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I'm not defending Akito the Shadow the Hedgehog or anything, but not "balancing" and just being flat dark does seem like the logical conclusion to what the series was going for.
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Jun 8, 2017 00:43
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Schwarzwald posted:I'm not defending Akito the Shadow the Hedgehog or anything, but "not balancing" and just being flat dark does seem like the logical conclusion to what the series was going for. Given the show's pedigree it was almost definitely building towards something with Akito's darker turn, but since they wasn't able to get the additional movies they planned for (I'm assuming they were planning on more, at least) it winds up being quite the non-starter that can at best only be speculated on.
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Jun 8, 2017 00:56
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The story goes that PoD was the first of a trilogy but because everybody hated it and it sold terribly because of that they never made the next two which supposedly would have done something with the story. I don't know if any single part of that true, including if it sold terribly or not.
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Jun 8, 2017 01:16
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I remember that Nadesico The Mission for Dreamcast continued the story of the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hslEQqY1Rrw I don't know how the game ends, or if it's any good, but at least it looks like the tone is closer to the TV show.
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Jun 8, 2017 01:24
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Kind of reminds me of the Escaflowne Movie, another Darker And Serious attempt that more or less completely missed the spirit and point of the original.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:40
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Srice posted:Given the show's pedigree it was almost definitely building towards something with Akito's darker turn, but since they wasn't able to get the additional movies they planned for (I'm assuming they were planning on more, at least) it winds up being quite the non-starter that can at best only be speculated on. I haven't seen Nadesico in a few years but my recollection is that while it was pretty light hearted on the whole it tended to have an overall serious episode every now and then to help set up a point and then puncture it later. My impression has always been that Prince of Darkness was meant to be the same too, with subsequent movies being much more fun affairs after the set up of the first establishes the story, setting and tone they want to play with and examine. Mind you, I suppose in retrospect they should probably have included at least some of that within the film itself, perhaps in the final act to help establish what they were trying to do (assuming they were trying to do it in the first place). Nate RFB posted:Kind of reminds me of the Escaflowne Movie, another Darker And Serious attempt that more or less completely missed the spirit and point of the original. I enjoy the Escaflowne TV animation but I'll always love the movie too, simply because the animation is gorgeous and there's a few cool ideas here and there. The story and characters are forgettable dross that the TV show did much better, but I love the opening flight sequence and especially the music accompanying it, the following fight sequence of Vann single handedly taking on an airship to get Escaflowne and the single mecha fight later in the movie where Vann takes on Dilandau. It's one of my favorite fights full stop, just because the movie isn't afraid to make things slow (relatively at least) and you can see not just each swing of the unit's swords lining up, but characters correcting to account for the opponents movements without having to slow the film's speed or re-watch it half a dozen times to see one frame. I'll also admit that Escaflowne running on the pilot's blood and the whole sequence around it are just hilariously badass to me as well. It's a really edgy, stupid concept and the movie doesn't even do much to justify it or explore the concept but it's so cool I don't even care. My inner 13 year old has a field day every time I watch it I guess.
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Jun 8, 2017 13:34
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So I finished watching Nadesico, it was really good and I liked it. Then I watched the movie and got bored halfway through because oh man that is some hot garbage right there. I kind of started to tune it out when they revealed that Yurika was the magical techno-warp box now? That's dumb.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:39
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Thread on the upcoming mazinger z film https://twitter.com/Eldur_380/status/874991674178621441 quote:
https://twitter.com/Eldur_380/status/875001864550404098 https://twitter.com/Eldur_380/status/875002325668171779 https://twitter.com/Eldur_380/status/875004365152690176
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Jun 14, 2017 16:21
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Saying it happens "10 years after the show" is hilariously worthless for Mazinger. What show? Does it take Great Mazinger and Grendizer as canon? Mazinkaiser? Hell, Zero? There's like a million continuities that branch out of each other if they aren't on their own to begin with.
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Jun 14, 2017 16:42
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Who's doing the VA work for Kouji?
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Jun 14, 2017 16:54
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You didn't post the image of Mazinger Z! How could you skip out on the robot? https://twitter.com/Eldur_380/status/875001486983430144
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Jun 14, 2017 17:05
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Pureauthor posted:Who's doing the VA work for Kouji?
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Jun 14, 2017 20:46
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Blaze Dragon posted:Saying it happens "10 years after the show" is hilariously worthless for Mazinger. What show? Does it take Great Mazinger and Grendizer as canon? Mazinkaiser? Hell, Zero? I didn't even know there was a Mazinger Z movie and now I'm super stoked because oh man I just finished watching Getter Robo: Armageddon (It was awesome and I wholly regret waiting this long to watch it) and was lamenting that I didn't have any more Mazinger Z to consume as well. EDIT: So I've almost got my friend convinced robot anime is cool. He's about to watch some Getter, is on the fence with Mazinger Z and absolutely loved Big O and Evangelion (hated the rebuilds though). So, do you guys have any suggestions for series that capture the style or tone of Big O or Eva at all? I've run through most of my good ideas already and we've got a few cool things to watch. Nuebot fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 01:57
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RahXephon. Maybe.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:59
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Brain Powerd. 
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Jun 15, 2017 08:35
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Raxivace posted:Brain Powerd.  The opening theme is like the only good thing about that anime. It just fell apart the further along it went.
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Jun 15, 2017 09:50
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Dai-Guard. It's really good. Way lighter tone, but it has a very "what if NERV had to actually deal with bureaucracy" kinda vibe to it.
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Jun 15, 2017 13:42
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A lot of animators on Big O had previously worked on Giant Robo, both series do an excellent job at giving the robots this bulky, weighty feel in their movements.
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Jun 15, 2017 14:07
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Nuebot posted:EDIT: So I've almost got my friend convinced robot anime is cool. He's about to watch some Getter, is on the fence with Mazinger Z and absolutely loved Big O and Evangelion (hated the rebuilds though). So, do you guys have any suggestions for series that capture the style or tone of Big O or Eva at all? I've run through most of my good ideas already and we've got a few cool things to watch. I think you best bet might be Tetsujin 28 (2004). It's a little more anti-industrial than anti-corporate, but it otherwise has a lot in common with Big O and Eva.
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Jun 15, 2017 16:47
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Tetsujin 28 (2004) isn't anti-industrial at all? It is explicitly about Japan entering the post-ww2 industrial boom, which is portrayed as a good thing, and nearly all the villains are people who refuse to let go of the war and let society progress.
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Jun 15, 2017 18:25
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Cam of the mazinger PV https://twitter.com/pKjd/status/875133341162328069 the CG looks okay, I guess.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:54
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Motto posted:Cam of the mazinger PV  I'm still not used to a more visually detailed Mazinger but dang, that classic theme is great.Srice posted:A lot of animators on Big O had previously worked on Giant Robo, both series do an excellent job at giving the robots this bulky, weighty feel in their movements. Yeah I looked up some of that and I think that's what we're going to move on to next. Apparently the director also worked on Karas, which while not mecha has always been one of my personal favorite OVAs.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:46
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Some of the detailing makes the machine look like it's just cracked, especially around the head.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:02
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Motto posted:Cam of the mazinger PV crosses "witness the death of the mecha genre" off bucket list
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Jun 16, 2017 05:34
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GorfZaplen posted:crosses "witness the death of the mecha genre" off bucket list The mecha genre has been through worse. As far as "visual adaptations" go this isn't on the same planet as, say, REIDEEN.
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Jun 16, 2017 15:44
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GorfZaplen posted:crosses "witness the death of the mecha genre" off bucket list I don't see what was so bad about that PV?
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Jun 16, 2017 18:39
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A cool image by Yasuda Akira for a Gundam art book. two seconds later: 
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Jun 17, 2017 14:54
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I like how blase Kihel is in that image. Though I think only Dianna wore that outfit in the show, so maybe it's her and that's just a Dianna doll under the couch. The eyes are a bit too small to use that tell. Who are the two in the back of the image (red haired dude and blue haired girl)? Don't recognize them at all.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:03
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tsob posted:I like how blase Kihel is in that image. Though I think only Dianna wore that outfit in the show, so maybe it's her and that's just a Dianna doll under the couch. The eyes are a bit too small to use that tell. Who are the two in the back of the image (red haired dude and blue haired girl)? Don't recognize them at all. That's Tristan and Aeon, the male and female lead from the surprisingly great PS2 JRPG MS Saga(Gundam True Odyssey in Japan). Frankly, I'm absolutely amazed that anyone else remembered that game existed.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:37
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Kanos posted:That's Tristan and Aeon, the male and female lead from the surprisingly great PS2 JRPG MS Saga(Gundam True Odyssey in Japan). I actually have a copy but have never played it.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:40
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Midjack posted:I actually have a copy but have never played it. You should, it's actually pretty fun. You get your mechs and can customize them with various parts to optimize them as you see fit and equip weapons on them by slotting guns, swords and shields into a grid-system turning arming your mobile suits into inventory tetris. The biggest issue is that late-game stuff tends to reduce the need for any kind of customization by offering up gundams that are already the best available in their stat so there's no need to swap out parts unless you really want to give heavyarms some rocket hands or something. Kanos posted:That's Tristan and Aeon, the male and female lead from the surprisingly great PS2 JRPG MS Saga(Gundam True Odyssey in Japan). I never thought I'd see that game get acknowledged outside of weird LPs. Shame the game wasn't more popular or whatever, really. I wouldn't mind more like it.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:26
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Was on a YouTube stroll the other day, and received a reminder that even if little else of the show has aged well, Vandread's first opening theme is really goddamned great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSA_gVBPvYY
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Jun 19, 2017 17:23
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I'd be up for a Vandread revival.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:29
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    Anime is good.
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