DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Tiger Shark is basically "what if Sabretooth was half-fish?" Pretty much. Despite looking like a doofus, he's surprisingly vicious and strong. He's not very interesting, though.
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Tiger Shark is a text-book jobber.
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Origin: Stuck in an antiquated posture-correcting rig.
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X-O posted:Day 66: Tiger Shark No, no. His hat looks like a shark's fin.
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Jun 14, 2017 08:55
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Samovar posted:No, no. His hat looks like a shark's fin. Now you're just being silly. He's not wearing a hat!
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Jun 14, 2017 09:10
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Lobok posted:"I made my patients faster and stronger and more alive than ever! And for that they took away my license! Called me a quack! Well I'll show them what it means to be a quack! They're about to get billed by... DOCTOR DUCK!!!"
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Jun 14, 2017 15:09
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Edge & Christian posted:I believe his doctor was actually Doctor Lemuel Dorcas. Who has the most obvious supervillain origin ever: grew up with the name Lemuel Dork rear end. Strange name to give a villain, especially male, considering Dorcas was a cherished and noble woman in the Bible. My grandma was in a Dorcas group, knitting clothing for people in need. drat, missed my opportunity while she was alive to call her a huge Dork rear end.
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Lobok posted:Strange name to give a villain, especially male, considering Dorcas was a cherished and noble woman in the Bible. My grandma was in a Dorcas group, knitting clothing for people in need. drat, missed my opportunity while she was alive to call her a huge Dork rear end. In looking up who created Dr. Dorcas, I found out that he came back from the dead and went from looking like this standard Nasty Scientist  to a *really* nasty looking scientist  It was in Jeff Parker's Thunderbolts, which I read, so it's double weird I forgot about this serial killer starfish look.
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Jun 14, 2017 15:33
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Tiger Shark just made me remember Sting Ray, the worst Avenger.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:41
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Oh man, creepy starfish man is one of the grodiest things I've seen in comics.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:43
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sbaldrick posted:Tiger Shark just made me remember Sting Ray, the worst Avenger. Stingray's actually pretty cool. The worst Avenger is still either Tigra or Doctor Druid.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:43
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I think the worst Avenger is Triathlon
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I think Tigra nudges ahead just for the fact that she's pretty much only exists as an Avenger and has for years and years.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:56
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Druid is the worst because that's actually his legacy. On the other hand, 
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poly and open-minded posted:I think the worst Avenger is Triathlon
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I do kind of like Tigra. For some reason. Maybe it's male gaze? Maybe it's my brain filling in the gaps of "also-ran cat themed Avenger" with the indisputably better Hellcat? Maybe I want Hank to settle down?
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Stingray is inarguably cooler than several Avengers. Tigra, Dr. Druid, Swordsman, Mantis (fuckin' Mantis, man), Gilgamesh, Living Lightning, Silverclaw, Lionheart, Red goddamned Hulk, Masque, Magdalene... There have been SO MANY terrible Avengers, you guys.
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A number of writers carried a heavy load trying to rehabilitate Tigra in Avengers Initiative/Avengers Academy and I don't know if they succeeded but I think she deserves to be raised out of the cellar simply because people put some effort into her and she appeared in some comics that weren't just godawful. I may be giving her too much credit just for sheer longevity. I also appreciate no one listing Starfox just because he became a butt of jokes for a couple of decades there. I will ride or die for Doctor Druid because his entire story was that he was terrible and ill-equipped to be an Avenger which puts him ahead of everyone else mentioned. Stingray was kind of cool because his whole thing was basically "I'm a researcher, not a crimefighter" and I respect that. Pretty much everyone else mentioned are all unquestionably terrible and I'm heartened to see people listing actually lovely nobodies like Silverclaw and Gilgamesh (and Deathcry!) and not just "bad" Avengers like Wonder Man/Mockingbird/Hank Pym/Black Knight who had periods of being cool and then other long runs of irrelevance. And I really appreciate that no one stooped so low as to pick on support crew members like Fabian Stankowicz or Marilla, may she rest in peace. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 04:32
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Hey, the Black Knight is awesome; I love that dude. He's a scientist and a technician and yet every time he turns around his world gets turned upside down by magic swords and the ghost of his dead ancestor and curses and such. For a long while there he kind of had to be the team's Iron Man (inventing poo poo to solve plots) and Captain America (physical combatant and strategist) all at the same time, all while also constantly striving not to go crazy. He deserves way more props than he gets.
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There's one scene in a Kurt Busiek story where Triathlon is complaining to Jarvis about how he's worried about becoming "one of those Avengers no-one's ever heard of".
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Jun 15, 2017 09:23
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Isnt he the superhero brought to you by not-Scientology!
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Yeah, Triathlon's backstory was that he was an Olympic gold medalist who was disgraced when he was revealed to be doping, and he found inner peace or whatever by joining up with Triune Understanding, which was Not Scientology.
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Jun 15, 2017 11:31
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Edge & Christian posted:I will ride or die for Doctor Druid because his entire story was that he was terrible and ill-equipped to be an Avenger which puts him ahead of everyone else mentioned. Doctor Druid is weird in that he is very deliberately written as a gigantic rear end in a top hat. He's not likeable in the way any of the other heroes are, he turns out to be kind of a misogynist when there's a woman leading the team, etc. He's an awful person but a unique character, and it's just funny to have him as the one guy on the team none of the other members actually like. If not for being kind of a jerk he'd be forgettable outside of his vaguely-racist origin story.
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I like the Black Knight as well. He was really good in Captain Britain and MI-13, which was itself great and a terrible shame it got canceled so soon.
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Stingray is great because he's basically the Blue Beetle of Marvel. He's not very good at being a superhero and often complains when he has to do superheroing, but for some reason he keeps putting a stupid suit on and taking on aquatic threats. Which is especially funny since the majority of aquatic threats can give Namor trouble. Black Knight would suck a lot less if he was allowed to stab people with his sword.
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I have a lot of sympathy for Tigra because she was part of the original west coast avengers, which when it started (in a four issue limited series) was pretty explicitly a B-team--the leader was hawkeye, out to prove himself, who promptly hired his wife, mockingbird, who also had no superpowers. Then they had Tigra, (my recollection is she joined because she had nothing better to do) Wonder man (who was mostly focused on his acting career) and James Rhodes Iron Man, who was still in his "am I the substitute or the real deal?" phase.
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Deptfordx posted:I like the Black Knight as well. He was really good in Captain Britain and MI-13, which was itself great and a terrible shame it got canceled so soon. I loved that book so much. I don't remember most of the comics I've read, but I'll never forget Excalibur driving back Dracula and a whole host of vampires with the sword of the same name. Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, Triathlon's backstory was that he was an Olympic gold medalist who was disgraced when he was revealed to be doping, and he found inner peace or whatever by joining up with Triune Understanding, which was Not Scientology. Didn't this tie into 3D Man in Agents of ATLAS somehow? I need to re-read those books.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Didn't this tie into 3D Man in Agents of ATLAS somehow? I need to re-read those books. I believe so. I think the backstory was a little tricky, and it was made even trickier because it also tied into the big Kang Dynasty storyline that Busiek finished his time on Avengers with. That story was something like 16 parts long. If it was published today, it would've been a big crossover story with a bunch of tie-ins. As it was, wasn't there a rule in Marvel at the time about not doing big crossovers with every title having a tie-in? I'm pretty sure that only really became the norm with House of M.
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poly and open-minded posted:I think the worst Avenger is Triathlon Poor guy isn't even the main focus of his own picture on Wikipedia. 
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I liked when he became 3D Man and joined the Skrull Kill Krew in Secret Invasion. That's all I got for him.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I believe so. I think the backstory was a little tricky, and it was made even trickier because it also tied into the big Kang Dynasty storyline that Busiek finished his time on Avengers with. It was such a great story, but so bizarre in the fact that it wasn't referenced ANYWHERE else. It was a year long epic where Kang blew up the UN, took over the entire world, sent went after wave of ground troops to destroy cities and imprison dissenters, but not one other comic during the entire year acknowledge any of it. It was pretty sweet how he tied the Triune into the whole resolution tho. The whole Thor/Firebird interaction was great too. Busiek definitely went out with a bang
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Didn't this tie into 3D Man in Agents of ATLAS somehow? I need to re-read those books.
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GPTribefan posted:It was such a great story, but so bizarre in the fact that it wasn't referenced ANYWHERE else. It was a year long epic where Kang blew up the UN, took over the entire world, sent went after wave of ground troops to destroy cities and imprison dissenters, but not one other comic during the entire year acknowledge any of it. Oh, yeah, Kang literally killed every single person in Washington D.C. in that story (except George W. Bush, who's evacuated to Lemuria) and it's not mentioned anywhere else. I believe there's one panel in one of the comics set after the world surrenders to Kang where you see Spider-Man and Wolverine hiding out from Kang's men, but that's about it. It's just Avengers other than that. Not Busiek's best Avengers story, though - that's still Ultron Unlimited. Kang Dynasty doesn't have Thor busting through a wall after beating an entire army of killer robots and telling Kang the Avengers would have words with him. quote:It was pretty sweet how he tied the Triune into the whole resolution tho. The whole Thor/Firebird interaction was great too. Busiek definitely went out with a bang There's so much going on in it. There's stuff with the Presence trying to create a new race of nuclear zombies in Siberia and stuff with an old Alpha Flight villain called the Master of the World (who is basically Vandal Savage - he's a caveman who became immortal when he was experimented on by aliens) and the Triune stuff. It's one of the few stories I can think of that would actually benefit from being a big oversized crossover event with a whole ton of tie-ins. It's really weird how Busiek had this huge story at the end of his run, then his last issue is a fairly run-of-the-mill one-shot where the Avengers are being interviewed by Tony Stark's accountants about property damage they caused in a fight with the Elements of Doom. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Day 67: Helio Here's Helio and his luxurious hair. Yet another character I know I've seen but don't remember at all. His bibliography indicates some issues I know I read at some point, including Quasar of course where all obscure characters live again. And his most recent appearance was in the the last New Warriors series which I own every issue of and still don't remember him. I'm not sure how I don't remember that hair though.  
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X-O posted:Day 67: Helio Where the white meets the blue makes it look like he has action figure joints in the middle of his thighs.
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It's mandusa.
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He's allies with GRONK, not the football player but Doughboy's illegitimate son. The all existed solely as henchmen for MAELSTROM, who was like Evil Mastermind With a Longterm Master Plan #207 from the 1970s and 1980s.
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why would a clone of an inhuman have powers?
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:why would a clone of an inhuman have powers? Why wouldn't he.
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Lurdiak posted:Why wouldn't he. I presume he's thinking that because you don't get your powers until you're exposed to the Terrigen mists, a newborn clone wouldn't have had that exposure and would still be a clean slate. I guess it depends on whether the mists alter someone at a deep enough level that a DNA sample would produce a clone identical to the post-exposure self. (USER WAS TEMPORARILY TURNED INTO A GOOSE BY SERSI* FOR THIS POST) (*Back in Quasar #26 -- PotY)
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