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Sinteres posted:That doesn't mean the answer is no. I fully believe some (admittedly cowardly) Republican legislators are almost as frustrated by their base's refusal to ditch Trump as we are, and hoping something changes that. Oh I have no doubt they're hoping he has a heart attack and quietly dies, or resigns, or something to make him go away where it's not their fault. I just doubt they've got the courage to make him go away.
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Mulva posted:It's a terrible loving job that ensures your entire life is put under a loving microscope, and if you are stupid enough to want the job your life probably isn't going to be spotless when put under a microscope, and basically 70% of the world will flat out hate you, and it'll prematurely age you, and after you are dead and gone your legacy can be measured in seconds, by and large. Being President worked out well for practically loving nobody who ever had the job. The greatest sign of Donald Trump's stupidity and narcissism is that he actually wanted to stop being one of the coddled rich to take it. I bet almost nobody regrets actually having been president though, except maybe George W or LBJ in the modern era. I suspect even Nixon huffed his great man of history farts enough to think his contributions in foreign policy made it all worth it. I do think Trump's background made him uniquely unequipped for the job though, and probably in ways that make it particularly miserable for him.
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So thats the AP, Gallup, and Quin that all have him in the mid 30s. Good work Donald. I can't wait for when Rasmussen releeases a poll with him in the 40s and he tweets about it again.
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canepazzo posted:The right time could be as early as next week - if Ossof wins GA-06 suddenly you'll have more than a few republicans start sweating bullets at their (re-)election chances. Ossof is leading pretty considerably, isn't he?
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Jun 15, 2017 14:19
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What are the chances that some of the customary things that the President is expected to do will be put into law in the future?
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empty whippet box posted:Ossof is leading pretty considerably, isn't he? He's probably up by 4 or 5 points. The outliers have him up 7 on the high side and about even on the low side. Of course, turnout is really hard to predict in special elections, so the odds of a systemic error in the polls is higher than normal.
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empty whippet box posted:Ossof is leading pretty considerably, isn't he? Nate Silver's guess yesterday was about 70/30 Ossof, which are the same odds he put on Hillary last year.
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Jun 15, 2017 14:22
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Whenever the democrats retake the Congress it would be nice to have some of these governmental norms that we've apparently taken for granted codified into law. Trump has shown us that any norm or formality not explicitly law will be abused.
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At present yesterdays attack is the primary story over on Breitbart. Breitbart is useful as a sort of long term weather forecaster for the overall trend and tone of Narrativism in the US. Breitbart is usually a fair bit more high-compaction than the national average so I go there from time to time to get an idea of the general direction that Trump-supporting Narrativists are headed in. I went to the comments of that story, picked a random section, and quoted the first ten comments I saw that either dehumanized the left or openly opined for violence/civil war. (It did not take me very long.)quote:All Good people should be praying for our nation and our leaders. We are seeing evil manifest itself, and real serious prayer is needed. Every conservative American should get handgun carry permits, and then practice. Having a gun in a crisis does not mean you are able to stop terror any more than having a guitar in a bar means you could play it. USPSA matches are cheap, fun, and everyone should own what is needed to compete. quote:“I wish that the president would sit down with the leadership of the (Bolding in original) quote:Doesn't matter if it's Bernie, Hillary or Obama, the raw hatred they exude permeates everything they say about President Trump. They are, in fact, aggravating those who would go out and commit heinous a acts against our president and representatives. quote:In Civil War 2, who would you target first? The above spawned a bunch of one line response so I just mashed them all together into a single post. A bunch of assholes posted:
quote:Targeted advertising. I hear they can look at your shopping profiles and target ads to you on the net. This includes Facebook etc. So the Far left which owns google, Facebook can target their most extreme liberals and send them news that will make them snap and kill This one is such an oddball that even though it doesn't fit my theme I decided to include it here. This is a demonstration of a low-compaction Narrativist trying to reason his high-compaction kin into being less high-compaction. As you might expect this post has been completely ignored. quote:It is intellectual laziness if you cannot argue conservative principles without rhetoric. Conservatism stands up on its foundation. It doesn't need to be propped up by lazy arguments. Conservatism is better because its good for America. It's not proven to be better because we accuse liberals of something extreme. Argue conservatism on its merits and don't be lazy with your arguments. Don't stoop to name calling and rhetorical devices It's not necessary and its a weaker argument than extolling conservative principles. quote:all our lives are in the worry zone...their is a coup under way to transform our government from a representative republic to a communist dictatorship...it has to be that way because communism has to be forced upon people with direct threat of death .... 50 to 80 million in Russia and China....and both failed anyway.........those involve in the coup have gone to far to step back quote:There are many Bernie assassins among the progressive fascists. They are armed and dangerous as violence not the ballot box is their path to power. The FBI is of no help in rounding them up because they sympathize with Bernie. quote:I don't understand why people refuse to see the truth! quote:I'm tired of hearing this "both parties" BS. The violent rhetoric spews forth from the leftists. Period. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Cheekio posted:It sort of sucks that the left is super all in for FBI directors these days. Times sure have changed since Obama when the FBI was just another part of the problem. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Jun 15, 2017 14:29
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quote:There are many Bernie assassins among the progressive fascists. They are armed and dangerous as violence not the ballot box is their path to power. The FBI is of no help in rounding them up because they sympathize with Bernie. Mods please rename me Clandestine Vermont Agent.
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Prester Jane posted:At present yesterdays attack is the primary story over on Breitbart. Breitbart is useful as a sort of long term weather forecaster for the overall trend and tone of Narrativism in the US. Breitbart is usually a fair bit more high-compaction than the national average so I go there from time to time to get an idea of the general direction that Trump-supporting Narrativists are headed in. I went to the comments of that story, picked a random section, and quoted the first ten comments I saw that either dehumanized the left or openly opined for violence/civil war. (It did not take me very long.) That is one very large pile of projection goddamn. How can someone project that hard and still not realize they're doing it?
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Zwabu posted:Comparing Scalise's situation to a standard old person hip fracture is nonsensical. I might rather be shot in the chest than in the hip with a transpelvic trajectory. Certainly the RIGHT hemithorax.
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Sinteres posted:I bet almost nobody regrets actually having been president though, except maybe George W or LBJ in the modern era. Yeah, because they are all loving mentalists. At least they were generally only kind of rich and already in politics when they made the jump, or in the military. Dumbshit Trump actively left the one position where he had no real responsibility and challenge for the gently caress barrel. At least politicians have learned to feel at home in the gently caress barrel, you know?
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Those Breitbart comments don't seem as bad as I would've expected tbh Note I have a very low bar.
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empty whippet box posted:That is one very large pile of projection goddamn. How can someone project that hard and still not realize they're doing it? One can only assume a great deal of delusion
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Jun 15, 2017 14:32
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Sinteres posted:Nate Silver's guess yesterday was about 70/30 Ossof, which are the same odds he put on Hillary last year. So Ossoff will win unless there's some weird local electoral college.
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Nevvy Z posted:So Ossoff will win unless there's some weird local electoral college. Ossoff running against Karen Handle of all people means that if he doesn't win something really loving shady is going on. EDIT: No matter what, though, having attack ads targeting Ossoff for being a Star Wars fan in college was hilarious.
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Jun 15, 2017 14:35
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"We should vote for this guy because he makes people mad and for no other reason!" "I can't believe how angry everyone is, they must have nothing but hatred in their hearts!"
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Jun 15, 2017 14:36
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MrNemo posted:Nixon was still at 50% with Republicans when he resigned. Basically being below 90% with your party when you're looking at 0 from the other side and well below 50 with independents is not a good place to be. It's loving hilarious like 5 months in to a first term. We just need to give him a chance to succeed.
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Javes posted:Whenever the democrats retake the Congress it would be nice to have some of these governmental norms that we've apparently taken for granted codified into law. Trump has shown us that any norm or formality not explicitly law will be abused. Just look at Trump's blatant violation of the emoluments clause. He's in direct violation of a plain reading of the Constitution, and Congress gives zero shits about it.
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Trump Administration continues to disclose critical intelligence and negotiating methods to our enemies. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/15/dennis-rodman-gives-copy-art-deal-to-north-korean-official.html quote:Dennis Rodman gives copy of 'The Art of the Deal' to North Korean official lol at the last line.
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Prester Jane posted:At present yesterdays attack is the primary story over on Breitbart. Breitbart is useful as a sort of long term weather forecaster for the overall trend and tone of Narrativism in the US. Breitbart is usually a fair bit more high-compaction than the national average so I go there from time to time to get an idea of the general direction that Trump-supporting Narrativists are headed in. I went to the comments of that story, picked a random section, and quoted the first ten comments I saw that either dehumanized the left or openly opined for violence/civil war. (It did not take me very long.) These comments are also in the replies to just about every major tweet about it. The complaint that the left is the only one spewing violent rhetoric and threatening people is a really worrying sign. The fringe right, ie freep, has always been saying that, but for the rest of the GOP to start is scary and I'm not sure what can be done to get the right back into some semblance of reality. Although at this point how many people are actually commenting on this stuff? Is it enough be a problem worth fixing?
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Javes posted:Whenever the democrats retake the Congress it would be nice to have some of these governmental norms that we've apparently taken for granted codified into law. Trump has shown us that any norm or formality not explicitly law will be abused. Like I've said before: we're going to have to do the governmental equivalent of putting a sticker on a lawnmower telling people not to lift it over their heads and use it as a hedge clipper.
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Trump's approval rating right now is roughly tied with Clinton's at this period in his administration. Please note that Waco had just happened in Clinton's administration, and Trump hasn't killed a couple hundred civilians on US soil yet, so
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Sir Tonk posted:These comments are also in the replies to just about every major tweet about it. The complaint that the left is the only one spewing violent rhetoric and threatening people is a really worrying sign. The fringe right, ie freep, has always been saying that, but for the rest of the GOP to start is scary and I'm not sure what can be done to get the right back into some semblance of reality. Breitbarts viewership is down a ton. The people left are the craziest of the crazies and have always been there, they are now the most seen.
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Grapplejack posted:Trump's approval rating right now is roughly tied with Clinton's at this period in his administration. So he's definitely going to bring up that his numbers aren't as bad compared to Bill and Hillary?
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My go to response for the ULTRA VIOLENT left in metro KC is to just pull up that right wing whackadoodle who shot and killed two Garmin engineers for the crime of being Indian. Like, less than a year ago.
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No Butt Stuff posted:My go to response for the ULTRA VIOLENT left in metro KC is to just pull up that right wing whackadoodle who shot and killed two Garmin engineers for the crime of being Indian. That was like two months ago
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No Butt Stuff posted:My go to response for the ULTRA VIOLENT left in metro KC is to just pull up that right wing whackadoodle who shot and killed two Garmin engineers for the crime of being Indian. I feel like just about every metro area can use a local version of this.
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Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield, which is the only healthcare provider on the individual exchanges in the entire state of Delaware and in almost 1/3 of all counties in America, says that in 2018 they will be raising premiums by 33.6% for individual exchange plans. This is because: 1) They expect the market to get much more expensive as people who were previously on Medicaid go to the exchanges. 2) The elimination of the risk pathways means that they have to overcharge to make sure that they make a profit from the new marketplace/regulations. 3) The loss of the individual mandate means that certain healthy people will drop out. This will increase the cost to the government by about 3.2 billion dollars and the cost to the individual by an average of $438 per year.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So thats the AP, Gallup, and Quin that all have him in the mid 30s. Rasmussen magically has him back up near his several month high, at 47% approval in their latest. So this could actually happen. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
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The worst part for me is that even paying 438 a year extra is actually a really good deal for me, still, next to paying 6000 a loving MONTH for the TNF blockers I need to not be crippled.
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I enjoy the contrast of "who would you target first in a civil war" and "all the violent rhetoric comes from the left"
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Night10194 posted:The worst part for me is that even paying 438 a year extra is actually a really good deal for me, still, next to paying 6000 a loving MONTH for the TNF blockers I need to not be crippled. It's an average increase of $438 per year for the people already on it. The government is picking up most of the cost with increased subsidies. People who fall into the Medicaid expansion "donut hole" are going to get boned and absorb the entire cost.
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Sir Tonk posted:
The main comment thread on Breitbart for the shooting yesterday had over 38,000 comments before I went to bad last night. Presently it is rare for a Breitbart thread to go over 1,000 comments unless it is really big news. Threads I checked out on other Narrativist sites (Infowars, Blaze, The_Donald) also had a very unusually high number of replies in threads about this topic as well as the replies generally being the same tone as the ones on Breitbart. This event marks a dramatic change in how the right wing talks about the left and that will eventually result in a dramatic change in how the right wing treats the left. A year from now you can expect the average Conservative to be so expectant of violence from leftists that they will demand you per-emptively denounce left wing violence before they will even engage in discussing their Outer narratives. We (as in all leftists) are now on the path to becoming pretty much equivalent to ISIS in the minds of right wing Narrativists. In the minds of right wing Narrativists we are now all barbarous thugs unable to control our murderboners and so manipulated by our wicked leaders that we don't care anymore that we are doing evil, we just get such a rush out of violence against the right wing that we can't help ourselves. They will come to see us as an obstacle standing between them and the happiness of their families. For the record I have no loving idea what to do about this or how the situation can be remedied. I wish I did. Unfortunately when I wished for the super power of premonition I did so on a monkeys paw. That is why I can only predict the future if it is dominated by crazy people and the wish gave me no idea on how to prevent/cope with the situations my super powers allow me to foresee. I guess the lesson here is that if you are ever homeless and an old Gypsy lady offer to let you make a wish on her monkeys paw and you decide to play along to humor her then be very careful and don't make a sarcastic wish because you juuuuuust might be holding the real thing. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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