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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:33 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 17:06 |
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quote:Red Symons has come under fire following an interview with an ABC Radio podcaster, in which he asked the host if she was "yellow" and "What's the deal with Asians?". Ah race and Australia, two things that go well together.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:33 |
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I bet this old white guy has a super hot take on other ethnicities lmao
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:36 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:Ah race and Australia, two things that go well together. Obligatory:
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:37 |
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if you live in austrlaia you're racist, qed
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:44 |
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https://twitter.com/CaseyBriggs/status/875350069297283072
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:47 |
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open24hours posted:The solution to homelessness: get welfare slaves to build a shanty town. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/jun/07/boxed-life-inside-hong-kong-coffin-cubicles-cage-homes-in-pictures I can guarantee those won't be "designed really well". Every architect that touts that their own "model is innovative, holistic, scaleable, flexible" doesn't know poo poo about designing a functional space
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:49 |
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Red Symons potentially hosting a show called what's the deal with Asians is funny as hell though.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 01:55 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:Ah race and Australia, two things that go well together. Junkee posted:Symons: “Do they speak Mandarin or Cantonese?”
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:00 |
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screaden posted:https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/jun/07/boxed-life-inside-hong-kong-coffin-cubicles-cage-homes-in-pictures 90% odds of them being insanely flammable.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:00 |
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The Red Faces blackface Harry Connick Jr broadcast was basically our moon landing.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:11 |
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JBP posted:The Red Faces blackface Harry Connick Jr broadcast was basically our moon landing. I feel like if one were to pull old tapes from Hey Hey It's Saturday and try to watch them, you'd spend the entire time vomiting into your own disgust
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:29 |
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JBP posted:Red Symons potentially hosting a show called what's the deal with Asians is funny as hell though. Would you say he was Living in the 70s? Or that he was Hot for the Orient?
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:36 |
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Craig is notably the only Liberal who is really an idealist for classical Liberalism. He's for Palestine, refugees, the ABC, not changing the racial discrimination act, and while personally for religious beliefs for same sex marriage would always vote for it. No doubt Abbott loathes the main as a traitor.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:37 |
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Here is the full audio if you want it, still up on ABC for now.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 02:53 |
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Anecdotes about him are starting to come out too
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 03:23 |
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Latham vs. Symonds vs. Abbott vs. Hildebrand vs. Descending spike ceiling cage match please.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 03:52 |
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Lid posted:Craig is notably the only Liberal who is really an idealist for classical Liberalism. He's for Palestine, refugees, the ABC, not changing the racial discrimination act, and while personally for religious beliefs for same sex marriage would always vote for it. If my 1.5% margin electorate included Homebush Lidcombe and part of Auburn I'd adopt those positions too.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 03:58 |
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NTRabbit posted:If you think her opinions aren't lovely, then I think we've found the problem Really? If you think they are lovely, and all you've got is whats described in that junkee article, that's an interesting discussion in itself. A mother can't tell her daughter to take reasonable care not to put herself at extra risk by becoming completely intoxicated, because that's victim blaming? We're that incapable of nuance? That's concerning. And arguably actually dangerous. Gorilla Salad posted:The pointing of the "more Left than thou" finger seems a lot more cutting than usual and I'm personally having a really hard time seeing where that unpleasantness is coming from unless you take it as an excuse to openly hate on a woman who has gone and succeeded in life on her own terms by making a profession out of having an opinion. Exactly, thank you. That's why I came here, to try and understand where that unpleasantness is coming from, and all that's really been proven is that it is in fact largely baseless. No one has actually backed up any of the accusations. A lot of it definitely is gendered, but then you get the attacks from places like Pedestrian and Junkee and the rest of the Left. They absolutely would go after a man, and normally if anyone makes any kind of gendered attack they love jumping all over them, which is why this is interesting. I'd hate to think it was as crass as one digital media agency throwing stones at another, but it does look a bit like that. They pick up on some tweets and run with it. Perhaps there are some really strong collective sub-conscious biases going on. Because even the crime here is questionable and a potentially interesting discussion in itself, but we haven't even had a chance to get there yet. Is saying that the publicist asked how big the lift was really so horrible? "Despicable, Shameful, Humiliating etc"? Roxanne said it was, so that definitely counts for something, but are we happy to let that be the final say? It's not like her size and the effects it has on day to day life were a secret, it's literally what they were there to discuss. Here is what Gay said to This American Life: "... There's another level. I mean, then there's when you're super morbidly obese, where you can't really even find stores that can accommodate you. You don't fit in any public spaces, like movie theaters, public bathrooms, so on and so forth.". So she can say it, and Mia can't. Which is understandable and fair enough, but hardly ground for the backlash she's experienced. Is there something there I'm missing? Mia is a huge fan who loves Gay, she wasn't putting her down or making fun of her, it wasn't 'lol fat people', it was 'here's something interesting about fat people I learned today which you may not have considered but which perhaps you should'. It was a mistake, but like I said before, I think a part of it was that Roxanne didn't actually know the questions her publicist asked, and was shocked and embarrassed to learn about them. So her initial mortified tweets carried accusations of dishonesty, which further inflamed the issue. Everyone picks up their swords and leaps to Gay's defense and trips over themselves to show off how appalled and how brutally heart achingly sorry they are, and the pitchforks come out. There are also strong elements of "relative privilege". When you have a big bisexual woman of colour claiming she was upset by something an average sized straight white woman said, everyone just automatically takes the former's side by default. And that's concerning as well. It's not helpful or healthy, for both the left in particular or society in general. It's actually faintly patronising - like Gay is this really weak porcelain doll we failed to shield from this appalling attack, despite being a professional adult who is a published author and respected academic. Its absolutely important not to Kick Down, but we need to actually look at the "kicks" in question. And Mia looks pretty down at the moment, and the kicks shes getting are a way worse than what she did. I think really some of it comes from mamamia's history of clickbait-y listicle type journalism. It was annoying fluffy pop, it was new and different, it caught on, filled up a lot of people's feeds, with some stuff which was women's issues and some stuff which was a bit dumb, both of which weren't universally appreciated. And so that has defined her character in the public view, and makes these pile ons ok. I only listen to the Mamamia Out Loud podcast, which is generally good, thoughtful, progressive, topical weekly discussion. The No Filter podcast can be good if the guest is interesting, and the This Glorious Mess is a good one too. I don't read the website or the facebook, and so if they're a bit stupid or annoying (which glancing at them I can believe), that probably explains some / a lot of the hate. But I don't see that, I just see the podcasts, so the attacks seem egraroius to me. It might sound silly but I think Mia's is an important voice and we're worse off if we kill it like this.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:08 |
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http://www.smh.com.au/comment/labor-must-not-misinterpret-jeremy-corbyns-failure-as-success-20170615-gwroc2.html loving lol
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:15 |
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There have been a large number of legitimate criticisms made of Mia Freedman, you have just ignored or dismissed them and continued ploughing on into the third day of your bizarre crusade to defend her honour.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:16 |
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Lid posted:http://www.smh.com.au/comment/labor-must-not-misinterpret-jeremy-corbyns-failure-as-success-20170615-gwroc2.html quote:But it is meant to serve as a salutary warning. Parties of the left have a bad habit of celebrating glorious losses. I prefer to celebrate victories.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:21 |
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racing identity posted:There have been a large number of legitimate criticisms made of Mia Freedman, you have just ignored or dismissed them and continued ploughing on into the third day of your bizarre crusade to defend her honour. I haven't ignored them or dismissed them, I've quoted them and discussed them, and they don't appear to be legitimate (or large in number), that's the point. Everyone else has ignored or dismissed my discussion. I think the attitude to the pile on is more bizarre than my questions, and calling my questions a bizarre crusade is bizarre in itself. But yeah, it's going round in circles.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:29 |
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Mia has gone after young female reporters who have written things she doesn't like and told them they'll never work in this town if they don't change stories. I didn't weigh in on this because I can't find where it came up now but that is more than reason enough for me to dislike her and not want a bar of anything she has to say / do. Rich kid getting bankrolled by parents to set up a media empire that shits on people doing it the hard way and using feminism as her angle rather than as a principle isn't what I would hold up as a beacon.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:31 |
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I don't think we should really pile on anyone, but if we are going to pile on Andrew bolt or Caleb bond or beautiful daisy or Donald trump it seems reasonable that we could also pile on mia Freedman.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:34 |
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help, this lady who owns and runs a media platform is being silenced
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:40 |
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I've only just realized she named the loving site after herself.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:43 |
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*extremely Mario voice* Mamma Mia!
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:54 |
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Mia Freedman is a bad boss and a total neolib shithead there is nothing wrong with having a crack at her, or her bullshit publication.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:54 |
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Hobo Erotica posted:Really? If you think they are lovely, and all you've got is whats described in that junkee article, that's an interesting discussion in itself. A mother can't tell her daughter to take reasonable care not to put herself at extra risk by becoming completely intoxicated, because that's victim blaming? We're that incapable of nuance? That's concerning. And arguably actually dangerous. Not reading that.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:55 |
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JBP posted:Mia Freedman is a bad boss and a total neolib shithead there is nothing wrong with having a crack at her, or her bullshit publication. Totally not empty quoting
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 04:55 |
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Hobo Erotica posted:I haven't ignored them or dismissed them, I've quoted them and discussed them, and they don't appear to be legitimate (or large in number), that's the point. Everyone else has ignored or dismissed my discussion. She's a prominent talking head (or at least, has tried to point herself out as one) who definitely fits into the "FYGM" school of media management (and media relations woof) and who has simultaneously failed to ever build up the kind of cachet of respect or affection that someone like a Lisa Wilkinson has. When you aim to put yourself out there as much as she has and fail to get people to like you, the first time you very publicly gently caress up is going to be followed by pile on. That's what has occurred here. If you don't like it, or if you think people are being disrespectful to such a successful woman or that she has a voice that should be heard, that's fine. Literally everyone else here disagrees with you and you aren't going to change anyone's mind, but hey I've heard slamming your skull into a brick wall over and over again is good for some people. Schlesische fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jun 16, 2017 |
# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:00 |
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I don't recall anyone talking about the Mia comments about Gay at all until you came in here looking for outrage?
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:04 |
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I miss pavel
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:05 |
As a woman, I think Mia Freedman is a shithead, irrespective of her vagina-having status.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:11 |
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Blow posted:I'm pretty sure that by just being the POTUS the dude can gently caress us over in a myriad of ways if he so chooses to. I'm not saying the USA will nuke us. It's OK. Trump will declare war on Mt Trumble; President of Austria.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:17 |
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HookShot posted:As a woman, I think Mia Freedman is a shithead, irrespective of her vagina-having status. As a mother (bear) I think I'm going to eat you one of these days for coming too close to my cubs.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:19 |
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HookShot posted:As a woman, I think Mia Freedman is a shithead, irrespective of her vagina-having status. All of my female friends perceive her as a politically clueless mums and bubs wanker. Then again I think Clementine Ford is Andrew Bolt for girls so maybe I should get on the Mia train.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:19 |
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JBP posted:Then again I think Clementine Ford is Andrew Bolt for girls so maybe I should get on the Mia train. Miranda Devine Exists.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:23 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 17:06 |
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Schlesische posted:Miranda Devine Exists. She is a low altitude flyer as far as generating massive waves of outrage is concerned.
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# ? Jun 16, 2017 05:35 |