Agents are GO! posted:

Gotta be honest, this new system doesnt sound too shabby, as long as its not mandatory.

Archonex posted:

How will they stop pirating of content or people loving with the mods?

GunnerJ posted:

Holy poo poo.

Archonex posted:

Speaking of talented modders. I meant to post this before I was distracted by the Creation Club thing. This guy is doing some absolutely batshit insane stuff (in a good way) with Skyrim. It's easily the most complex and impressive thing i've seen, and once it's finished will probably make it a whole new game in an actual dynamic world.


His video explains it more here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCXEsoDA5Cc

It basically uses the faction identifier system as a base to create living breathing factions that slowly conquer the dungeons in the world. So a vampire clan can start out at Bloodlet Throne or Volkihar Castle and start conquering their area of the world, before eventually coming into contact with other factions. Or the Forsworn can eventually get such power and numbers that they can lay siege to Markath. This includes them getting access to unique suppliers and "jungle style" moba camps that help supplement their troops and supplies. So them finding a dungeon with an alchemist in it means they'll have heals and neat buffs, etc, etc, etc.

If they get too strong they can actually out level the player too. But it works, seeing as how each of the leveled characters is persistent. Which means you can run hit and run attacks on a base of operations if the enemy is 20+ levels above you to whittle their numbers down.

What's more, this works as a way to hold the faction up, since the game features working representatives of each faction that act as lynch pins for progression of the faction. If you take out a lieutenant then the whole faction loses it's progression level-wise until a new one is elected and reaches their prior level. You can also assassinate the suppliers and "jungle" camp people to shut down their own supply of troops too. Suffice to say that actually making the world a living and changing thing opens up all sorts of new game play opportunities for different playstyles. Here's a quote that goes into detail on what I mean:



He's released a demo of it, turning the Forsworn into their own organic faction. And a second faction is about to be released on Special Edition soon. He's also released a framework mod that lets people design their own organic factions.

He also is hoping the Skyrim community will help him with designing more factions and their AI. Because making something like this is complicated as hell. So if you've got any help to offer posting on the comment page asking him what you can do would be awesome. I'm thinking of volunteering making a few of the "friendly" factions like the Stormcloaks and Legion or the Dawnguard/Volkihar factions into a proper organic faction.

Azhais posted:

Other than the fact they're still going to act like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP9sEt8Xj6g

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docbeard posted:

It honestly feels more like a platform for Bethesda to publish their own DLC with modders being invited in as an afterthought.

(If this is the way that we get SKSE for the special edition, though, I will laugh and laugh and laugh.)

Azhais posted:

Jo Joestar posted:

I've just reinstalled Skyrim after a fairly long break from it, and I've run into a problem following the OP's guide to modding. One of the first things the OP and STEP tell me to do is to install it outside of c:\Program Files, but Steam is being very uncooperative - apparantly I can only have one Steam folder per drive, and I don't have an alternate drive to download it to. I've been able to launch the game after manually transferring the Skyrim folder out of the Steam folder, but Steam doesn't recognise it in its new location. Is there any better solution to this?

E: Thank you!

Cat Mattress posted:

That has to be entirely deliberate.

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

that organic factions thing sounds great, too bad most of it doesn't engage the player at all

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

yeah I get that but how does that answer the second point in every enemy fighting you in identical ways and the only difference being what textures they have

I really hope the mod is good but they should maybe address fighting forsworn vs vampires not mattering even a bit lol

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

that organic factions thing sounds great, too bad most of it doesn't engage the player at all

i'm not sure if I would notice/care that a cave has different warm bodies in it

Archonex posted:

Huh, really should have waited to post that on this page. That Organic Factions mod is easily the hugest thing i've seen out of Skyrim since it's release. Regardless, check the bottom of the last page. It's amazing, and really needs lots more attention.

Also the Creation Club is going to be so hilariously unmanageable. How will they stop pirating of content or people loving with the mods? If they encrypt the mods it'll be a day 1 crack. Never mind that mod creators that aren't a part of the club will have conniptions (or just quit modding Skyrim) due to the trouble it'll cause.

graynull posted:

The Skyblivion guys have come out officially to state they have no plans to use the Creation Club for their project. I'm not even sure something like that could or would be accepted by Bethesda anyhow but it at least clarifies their position. They seem like they have been pretty active of late getting work done and streaming progress somewhat regularly.

Schubalts posted:

So your friend trainwiz is doing something for the Creation Club. Though it wasn't much of a secret, he confirmed it.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I don't know where else to ask this so is it worth playing Fallout 4 on a console? I usually play these games on the PC but I can get it for free for the PS4. I know the game is pretty mediocre so are there any good mods that help it or will it be fine on console?

Zore posted:

Do we have any sort of idea when the 4GB limit on Oldrim is going to be fixed? I thought someone identified the issue a few weeks back?

GunnerJ posted:

It can't be "fixed" because of the nature of being a 32 bit program. There is a work-around. You can find info on all this and more in the OP.

docbeard posted:

I think they're talking about the rumors of a fix to the Windows 10 issue where the workarounds don't work, and as far as I know, those are still only rumors.

Shear Modulus posted:

My understanding on the progress towards fixing the Windows 10 4 GB VRAM thing is that some guy who works at Microsoft on Directx said it might be fixable and that that's the last anyone heard of it.

MrMojok posted:

Is Oldrim with all the mods really that much better than Skyrim SE with less mods available? I'm not trolling or anything, I am new to all this. Just downloaded SE on steam three weeks ago, and I've found a ton of mods that are awesome. Somehow I have managed to put 149 hours into it in twenty days, it is some really sick poo poo and I guess now I am a sick, broken person.

But all the old-timers here and everywhere else seem to think Oldrim and the countless mods for it (along with SKSE) was the greatest thing ever. If it's really better than SE, and I had gotten that instead I guess I probably would have died of starvation sitting at the computer by now.