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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Wait, I thought Calgary wanted to upgrade their goaltending...

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Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

ThinkTank posted:

Wait, I thought Calgary wanted to upgrade their goaltending...

To be fair, Mike Smith is better than either of Brian Elliott or Chad Johnson. Just not that much better.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

grack posted:

35 years old, two more seasons at 5.667M/season, and you have to (potentially) give up assets to get him. Why not spend the money on a guy like Jonathan Bernier or, christ, even Ryan Miller? You'll probably get similar performance, and they might be cheaper to boot.

i'd probably prefer bernier here but ryan miller probably costs the same. i think it comes down to the cachet of a veteran goalie. edit: and to put a finer point on that, mike smith was insane in the playoffs that one time

also this might not be such a fleecing because domingue/smith for the goalie protection slot is a legitimate debate

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

Matt Zerella posted:

Raanta goes along with Stepan.

People who know more about this than me: Is there anyone on Arizona besides OEL that would make this a good deal for NYR?

EDIT: Wow, OEL is older than I thought. He turns 26 in a month. For reference, Stepan turns 27 tomorrow.

OldSenileGuy fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 17, 2017

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I get the idea of the trade from Arizona's perspective, but not Calgary's. I suppose Arizona could be sending an asset along for Calgary to take Smith's contract but even then it would be weird for the Flames.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Steve Mason needs a job

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



Kilza posted:

To be fair, Mike Smith is better than either of Brian Elliott or Chad Johnson. Just not that much better.

https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/876132925867048960

being league average at 5v5 for so many seasons there on some really awful teams is pretty impressive to me. it's a shame he's so old and is going to another lame team so we don't get to see Mike Smith Unleashed

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

FBS posted:

Who the hell starts for Arizona if Smith is gone?
There's plenty of options for a goalie...

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

It'll be hilarious if Vegas doesn't take Fleury and nobody trades for him, so he still remains a Penguin.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/876134850692083714

Queue HAS meltdown in 3...2...1...

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Haha, what?

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Hahaha what the gently caress? Good for the Sabres, jeez.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007




it's nice of MB to get the fans nice and warmed up so that the horrible Gally trade hurts less

whatis
Jun 6, 2012
are...you loving serious? lmfao

Brandon Proust
Jun 22, 2006

"Like many intellectuals, he was incapable of scoring a simple goal in a simple way"

Aye Doc posted:

it's nice of MB to get the fans nice and warmed up so that the horrible Gally trade hurts less

just watch gally be traded for future considerations :suicide:

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Jesus poo poo Bergevin what are you doing? Why would you trade Sergechev and do this?

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




We found all the trades

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/876135722666917889

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Jeeeeze that's bad

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

OldSenileGuy posted:

People who know more about this than me: Is there anyone on Arizona besides OEL that would make this a good deal for NYR?

EDIT: Wow, OEL is older than I thought. He turns 26 in a month. For reference, Stepan turns 27 tomorrow.

basically any of our prospects and some combination of our pick or the wild's would get it done, but the problem is that we have a glut of forwards that are either not replaceable or too young to be a valuable asset, and it feels like we have the minimum amount of prospects at D to have a respectable pipeline. So with this you get trades like strome and #7 for stepan or deangelo and #7 and #23, or idiots swinging for the fences with OEL and #23.

I don't doubt stepan would fit good on the coyotes, but there's no point in trying to win now and any of these trades are just going to help the rangers out.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I mean, Montreal's got to be lining a really big D trade, right?

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
I mean Beaulieu hasn't really been the player they'd hoped he'd be but he's another guy who has kinda gotten screwed by his coaches and is probably overall more valuable than that...

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

grack posted:

I mean, Montreal's got to be lining a really big D trade, right?

they really want Subban back

e: though seriously yeah wtf, Markov is at the end of his career, Emelin is bad and probably gone soon, Weber is getting old...looking at their D I don't know wtf they're doing other than trying to go "old school" which means slow bad players

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

grack posted:

I mean, Montreal's got to be lining a really big D trade, right?

They don't have any D left to trade away

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

FBS posted:

They don't have any D left to trade away

I meant trade *for* a defenseman.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

grack posted:

I meant trade *for* a defenseman.

Yeah, I was making a funny joke :v:

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003

anyone wanna andreyfuck?
Loll Montreal gonna get phaneuf

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/876137797060571137

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
Marc Staal is a defenseman (I'm told)

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Levitate posted:

Marc Staal is a defenseman (I'm told)

Perfect

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/876137797060571137

oh jeez

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007




this looks like a good return for the coyotes and it's a goalie so it's going to inevitably blow up in their faces but a solid move for the flames

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007


WIN NOW

*trades NHL D for a dumb pick*

gently caress YOU

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

coyotes need a goalie to expose now in 2? hours

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/876138786069020673

Well okay then

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Problem solved! Not.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



https://twitter.com/azc_mclellan/status/876139228685418496

the flames are going to make the playoffs

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




hifi posted:

coyotes need a goalie to expose now in 2? hours


checks out

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Okay, I still don't get that trade at all from Calgary's perspective.

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Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
A Mike Smith + Brian Elliot tandem could be really good or really poo poo. This will be fun.

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