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Jordan7hm posted:Isn't Beaulieu a pretty marginal defenseman? He turns 25 this year, has played 5 pro seasons, and has amounted to basically nothing. If he wasn't a first round draft pick nobody would be blinking an eye at this trade. Dumping Beaulieu means that they can protect Benn or Davidson, who are probably both better players right now. Beaulieu is a legit 2nd/3rd pairing D and not someone you should be giving up for virtually nothing.
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Breaking- I just traded 2 salmon treats and a conditional amount of Bonito flakes to my cat for the wire bread bag tie he was attempting to eat.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Breaking- I just traded 2 salmon treats and a conditional amount of Bonito flakes to my cat for the wire bread bag tie he was attempting to eat. Couldn't even get a conditional hair ball in 2018?
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Breaking- I just traded 2 salmon treats and a conditional amount of Bonito flakes to my cat for the wire bread bag tie he was attempting to eat. I don't understand who won this trade, can you post the advanced stats to help.
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Wippersnapper posted:Couldn't even get a conditional hair ball in 2018? Cat was dealing from strength, there's a lot of depth in the things-to-eat pipeline.
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JoelJoel posted:Might be tricky with that nmc that Nill gives to every goalie. Didn't know he did that.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Breaking- I just traded 2 salmon treats and a conditional amount of Bonito flakes to my cat for the wire bread bag tie he was attempting to eat. Bad deal, you could have gotten a defenseman from Montreal for that.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Breaking- I just traded 2 salmon treats and a conditional amount of Bonito flakes to my cat for the wire bread bag tie he was attempting to eat. Included with the above terms, he has also conditionally agreed to stop throwing up in my shoe in return for my good faith efforts to stop my wife from dressing him in outfits like this on Halloween and his birthday 
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grack posted:Beaulieu is a legit 2nd/3rd pairing D and not someone you should be giving up for virtually nothing. I don't know if he's a 2nd pair d, he seems like 3rd pair/powerplay guy at best. His offense is ok but his defense by every metric is pretty bad. He's like a poor man's Justin Schultz, can't be trusted defensively but also not as good offensively. e: but also Sharks got a 2nd for a defenseman that might not even be an NHLer so go Bergevin keep riding the Habs into the ground. http://twitter.com/WheatNOil/status/876144659185061889 Technetium fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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That's still way more valuable than a 3rd round pick, which more than likely will produce nothing at all.
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Habs fans enormously overrate their young defensemen but a 3rd is still nothing.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:That's still way more valuable than a 3rd round pick, which more than likely will produce nothing at all. Oh yeah I don't want to say that was a good trade at all, they should've kept him if that's all they could get, he's just not a great defenseman and no one there seemed to like him.
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coyotes are 11M away from the salary floor with 9F/7D/1G and doan and vrbata are the only ones who would command any real salary edit: this is also with slightly under 5M in retained/buyout too edit: and with dave bolland's 5.5MM hit hifi fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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I feel like this would be more exciting if everyone who wasnt protected automatically went on waivers after the expansion draft is complete. Let the games begin.
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hifi posted:coyotes are 11M away from the salary floor with 9F/7D/1G and doan and vrbata are the only ones who would command any real salary Do we know anyone who is overpaying goalies? Don't help out Dallas, take Pavelec instead.
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Getting dog housed by Therrien constantly pretty much ruined Beaulieu.
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hifi posted:coyotes are 11M away from the salary floor with 9F/7D/1G and doan and vrbata are the only ones who would command any real salary i guess with yotes legends pronger and datsyuk off the books they can go after some other anchor cotracts david clarkson, come on down!
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CommaToes posted:Do we know anyone who is overpaying goalies? Don't help out Dallas, take Pavelec instead. Pavelec is UFA this year If Dallas trades one of their goalies (plus prospect) to Arizona and buys out the other one they have a ton of cap space for two years to load up and take a run while Seguin is still on his sweetheart deal and Bishop is hopefully good. Even then Spezza and his 7 million dollar contract come off the books. I think they'll be fun to watch this offseason. Technetium fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:A Mike Smith + Brian Elliot tandem could be really good or really poo poo. This will be fun. I'd be stunned if Elliott stayed, especially since one of the reasons he was fine with being traded to Calgary was being the #1 goalie. I think Smith is a placeholder while Calgary finds out if Gillies or Parsons has what it takes.
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yellowcar posted:Getting dog housed by Therrien constantly pretty much ruined Beaulieu. He has the skills to pull a Yannick Weber at the very least
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CommaToes posted:Do we know anyone who is overpaying goalies? Don't help out Dallas, take Pavelec instead. If that happened, at least I could get one of the greatest jerseys ever, the original logo coyotes jersey, with MAF's name and number.
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Jordie Benn is now the 4th best D on Habs. Ohhhhhhhhhh booooooooooooooy.
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Losing Nesterov is an addition by subtraction. He is very bad.
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How much bank is Shattenkirk going to make on July 1?
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Suspicious posted:Losing Nesterov is an addition by subtraction. He is very bad. counterpoint: I disagree
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i am the bird posted:How much bank is Shattenkirk going to make on July 1? Depends on his fellow NHLPAers and how they vote... but still. Lotta $$$
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whatis posted:that was a lot of trades. i could hardly keep up with the flurry. the flurry of trades But not, sadly, a Fleury trade i am the bird posted:How much bank is Shattenkirk going to make on July 1? $40 million at least, probably more
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Technetium posted:counterpoint: I disagree Nesterov has no offensive upside and actually shirks from physical contact. You just need to send a forechecker his way and he will let him collect the puck uncontested.
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also for purposes of comparison, if the Penguins traded Ian Cole for a 3rd rounder I'd be pretty bewildered and pissed. Cole isn't very good and only has one year on his contract, but nevertheless a 3rd round pick is basically nothing and who the hell is playing those 20 minutes a game next year?
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https://twitter.com/NHLCanes/status/876171452650860548 The hell
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Vincent Van Goat posted:The hell Penguins must have decided since MAF is moving on they have no use for him anymore
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Of course, now that there is no penalty for poaching coaches, everyone steals everyone from the Pens.
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Mage_Boy posted:Of course, now that there is no penalty for poaching coaches, everyone steals everyone from the Pens. Everyone except Rick Tocchet, of course.
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Vincent Van Goat posted:Everyone except Rick Tocchet, of course. Yeah but I think everyone around the league understands that Tocchet is not really a coach but rather a sinecure e: Jacques Martin must really like it in Pittsburgh because I have to think he has more than once been offered both head coaching gigs and raises to be an assistant elsewhere, over the past two offseasons
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I wonder if Bales was upset over the MAF situation? Either way it'll be interesting to see who replaces him. Or maybe Matt Murray is too good to need a goalie coach  Mage_Boy posted:Of course, now that there is no penalty for poaching coaches, everyone steals everyone from the Pens. The Penguins probably benefitted from that rule more than any team while it was still active so I don't think it makes a difference either way. Plus AFAIK the compensation rule only extended to hiring staff away to be general managers or head coaches so the Penguins would have only been compensated for Botterill anyway. Edit: https://mobile.twitter.com/penguins/status/876174963371372544 I don't know who this guy is but apparently he's worked a lot with Murray before so I guess the Penguins are all in on Murray as their guy as if there was any doubt Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Hey, maybe he can undo the damage the 'Canes previous goalie coach did to Eddie Lack.
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Aphrodite posted:Habs fans enormously overrate their young defensemen but a 3rd is still nothing. Jake Guentzel and Matt Murray are 3rd round picks  .
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Pornographic Memory posted:I wonder if Bales was upset over the MAF situation? Either way it'll be interesting to see who replaces him. More likely the Canes just offered him more money
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Ginette Reno posted:Jake Guentzel and Matt Murray are 3rd round picks Other legendary 3rd round picks of the Pittsburgh Penguins include Mike Robertson, Alex Schoenborn, Dylan Sadowy, Max Gaede, and Harrison Ruopp. Also Robert Bortuzzo, Bryan Rust, and Kris Letang
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Suspicious posted:Nesterov has no offensive upside and actually shirks from physical contact. You just need to send a forechecker his way and he will let him collect the puck uncontested. No offensive upside? He had two less even strength points than Shea Weber this year in half the ice time last year. Granted he was pretty much gifted offensive zone starts (although less so in Montreal) because he's not great on defense (like Beaulieu). He was also a positive possession player and goals for player in Montreal.
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