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rastilin posted:CC Solution is already capable of fighting entire shaped forces by herself. Do we even need to risk the Geneforge at this point? How much stronger can we even get? Killing another Shaper might be a bit too hard to explain to the others, everything else we can probably reason out of as being necessary for the mission but this last thing might be a bit too blatant when we're in front of the Shaper council. Let's just run for it and leave the Shapers to deal with the problem. The thing about ultimate power is that it is never enough. You always need more. And the other thing about ultimate power is that it cannot be shared.
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C and B THe Geneforge is too powerful to exist. It's mere presence corrupts. Solution might not be an angel, but she recognizes the flaws of things. For better or ill, Shaper society recognized that the Geneforge was an aberration and an abomination and deatl with it accordingly, locking it away so as to not corrupt themselves or the greater world. Destroy it. Goetsche is a freak and we should deal wtih him to cut off loose ends. Then.. Then we figure where we go. But the Geneforge and the corruption of this world has to be purged. The Shapers have done enough wrong here, we shall not add to it.
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Real ultimate murder has a tenuous lead over no genes, no masters, but again, this count was a quick one and there could be hanging chads. Surely you mean 'hanging thahds', right?
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vdate posted:Surely you mean 'hanging thahds', right? Now that's just inhumane!
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Jun 17, 2017 12:08
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CB. So close to the boat, yet so far.
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quote:Real ultimate murder has a tenuous lead over no genes, no masters, but again, this count was a quick one and there could be hanging chads. Who let the Chads in. They are the worst bros ever 
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AB how can you resist the power?
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So the current tally looks like: The Geneforge: Touch it lightly: 16 Jam Solution's hands in: 1 Destroy it: 20 Leave it: 2 Goettsch: Report to him: 1 Kill him: 34 Abandon him: 5 No Genes No Masters is in the lead, followed by Real Ultimate Murder. There's still at least a couple hours to vote if you haven't yet!
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What is a Shaper if not curious? And it's not like Solution hasn't basically been jamming her hands into many devices and canisters of dubious safety. Also Goettsch is a dick. AB
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Just another three votes and it's even! I like how basically everyone wants Goettsch dead, though.
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PurpleXVI posted:Just another three votes and it's even! I like how basically everyone wants Goettsch dead, though. Goettsch is just a bit crazy though. I suspect A and B are ultimately the same choice, just with a difference in how much talk happens beforehand.
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A power hungry middle manager? He's everyone's former boss, that's why he has to go.
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I'll switch from Leave It to Touch It. It seems like the more entertaining choice.
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CB Maybe the renegade sholai have a chance to get off the island with their lives.
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This thread is too virtuous.  (I'm extending the voting for a bit so I can finish making some strawberry jam and then eat it. Heck yeah, jam!) Geneforge: Touch it: 19 Jam it: 1 Break it: 21 Leave it: 2 Goettsch: Report: 1 Murder: 38 Abandon: 5 If someone wants to confirm the tally, be my guest!
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Alright, voting is closed. The Geneforge will be destroyed (24 votes). Goettsch will pay (38 votes). Solution might have had power (19 votes) or died horribly (1 vote). Goettsch might have received her report (1 vote) or been indefinitely stranded on Sucia Island (5 votes).
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But you left out the most important piece of information! Was the strawberry jam delicious?
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Last Transmission posted:But you left out the most important piece of information! Few things are as good as hot, fresh strawberry jam. It is an unalloyed good; it is a balm for the soul; the distillation of sunshine, in fact, poured into a small, glass jar. Is that a smear of jam on my collar, you might ask. No. It is the blood of Goettsch. I'd never spill a drop of jam!
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The best thing about making strawberry jam is the little crust of dried jam around the inside edge of the pot. It's like a superpowered fruit leather.
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At some point this turned back into a conversation about Shaping.
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It's mostly true in this game that Shaped gear - even if it's stuff that doesn't normally seem like it should be organic, like swords or shields - is better than normal gear, right? By the same token, you haven't had strawberry jam until you've had Shaped strawberry jam.
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The Fate of the Geneforge The hypnotic churning of the Geneforge fascinates you in a way that words cannot describe. You're rooted to the spot, imagining how much power the Geneforge might bestow upon you. The lure is sweet and lovely, but you know that the sharp and bitter hook will catch in your guts. The only answer is to destroy the Geneforge. Game Text posted:The energy that feeds the Geneforge is also used to protect it. The moment you make a move to smash the basin, a jet of foul chemicals lashes out and pushes you away. Acid eats into your flesh. You quickly neutralize it. Of course the direct way can't be the correct way. You change tacks and investigate the power spirals instead. Game Text posted:This spiral has done surprisingly well surviving centuries of neglect. It is highly unstable and occasionally shudders in a worrisome manner, but it remains intact and feeds power to the Geneforge.  Game Text posted:You stare into the swirling goo of the Geneforge. The pool is no longer charged, but it is still intact. It will be years before it rots enough to no longer be usable. It still bubbles, hisses, and steams, waiting for you to act. If you had a pair of intact gloves, you would be hard pressed not to use the Geneforge at this moment, before it becomes useless forever. Game Text posted:It takes a number of heavy blows, but you manage to smash the edge of the pool. The goo inside begins to run out, spreading over the floor. It hisses where it touches the stone. A pang stabs your heart, but this millstone is at last thrown from your shoulders. You have only one last task. Then, finally, your obligations here will be over, and you'll finally be able to take that drat boat...   You slip out of Sholai lands amidst the confusion. Trajkov died a fool, but he was still a canny foe, and you don't want to die so close to your escape. You manage to shake off the disorganized pursuers by tracing a path through the vats and every bit of inhospitable territory between the Geneforge and here, Goettsch's realm. Having destroyed the glory of the Geneforge, this temple rings hollow and empty. The battle alpha walks up to you and says its programmed message. "You in home of Goettsch now. Goettsch say he see and talk with you. You follow me. Stay close. Other creatures here kill you quick." It then turns to walk off. "Lead on," you reply. "Yes. You follow me. You not follow, and guards kill you. Follow now." There aren't many guards left. That's a mistake.  Goettsch glares as the greeter leads you back to his grand chamber. "What do you wish now?" One of the serviles flanking him hands him a goblet. "Your wishes have been granted. Trajkov is dead at my hand," you say. "Yes! It is done! Now I will reign supreme! Now the power of the Geneforge will be mine! Only one thing remains to be done. First, you must be gone. I will tolerate no threatening parties, no unpredictable forces. There is a dock at the east end of the island. It is northeast of Kazg. There, you will find a small boat. It is the last boat on the island. Use it, and you can return to the mainland, and civilization. Leave now. I command it. Wait too long and I will grow impatient, and force your actions." You sigh. Some spark of reason might have remained in Goettsch at your last meeting, but all the canisters have smothered it since then. "Are you aware that I have destroyed the Geneforge?" Goettsch is overwhelmed with rage. "What? The greatest achievement ever created by the Shapers? You fool! I... ..." He completely loses control of himself.  In the end, it comes down to this: two Shapers and their creations. Goettsch is trained, experienced, and in his element. You are a mere fledgling whose abilities come solely from canisters scavenged under the noses of far more powerful forces. Geokinesis lashes Goettsch with whips of psychokinetic terror. Talow and TooMuchAbs strike out at the two cryodrayks crouched by the western wall. Your glaahks separate, with wedgekree darting after an insufficiently cowed cryodrayk and Dmar heading off the charge of the gamma greeter. Goettsch retreats and fires crackling spheres at Dmar, who is barely fazed. The glaahk has certainly endured far worse.  You wave your rod of defenses and close-fitting films of magic pop up around your nearest creations. You haven't been able to replicate this magic on your own, but it has proven handy now and then. Goettsch's serviles rush Dmar, who is swiftly surrounded. It maintains its heroic focus on the greeter, which towers over the other creations. Geokinesis leads the terror vlish in addling Goettsch's creations. The combined forces of the vlish swiftly overwhelm the serviles and they dissolve into primordial ooze.  The cryodrayks are pinned against the wall, unable to escape and unable to reinforce their creator. Wedgekree menaces one, and RickVoid keeps the other sodden with caustic spittle. Goettsch seems to be cowering, which gives you space to haste your creations and make them that much more potent.  The gamma and beta take turns trying to beat down Dmar, but the vlish support it and soon it is the last creation standing. Wedgekree finishes off the cryodrayk with a lucky strike to its heart, and then tears off after the last battle beta. In the excitement, you forget that you're using a discipline wand and take aim at Goettsch. The wand spews green fire that leaves him untouched. Cursing, you rifle through your pockets...  Goettsch makes a break for it down the pylon corridor, but he can't outrun wedgekree and Dmar. They snare him and Geokinesis takes a lucky shot. You are the last Shaper on Sucia Island.  Heustess awaits you in the southern settlement, silent and ready for you to fulfill your word. "Goettsch is dead," you say. "I have killed him." "Then the intruders are gone. My home is safe again. I will feed you. I will give you life." Heustess move forward and touches you. You feel energized, full of life. "Now go. This is my home." The shade's necromantic touch has filled you with a new vigor. You don't doubt that it will help you on the next leg of your journey.  The serviles of Pentil regard you with the same awe as ever. Rydell greats you in the usual way: a wide-eyed stare. "I have destroyed the Geneforge. That substance, hated and feared by my kind, is gone forever." "Thank you, Shaper. You should return to your people now. Tell them of us, our struggles, our obedience, and of the dangerous ideas that fester here and must be purged," Rydell replies. "I have learned that there is a boat northeast of Kazg. You can use it to return to your kind. And please, ask if we can return to them. We are so lonely and lost without you. We want to serve you again truly." The old servile's plea drops to a whisper. He has waited a long time for this chance, and now that it seems within reach, he looks adrift. "I will tell them," you promise.  Avdotya makes as though to stop you when you pass the little outsider camp by the icy tunnels. You forestall the Sholai guards with a raised hand. "I have slain Trajkov. And, if you do not step aside, you will join him." They start to urgently and quietly discuss the issue amongst themselves. They are clearly terrified. Then Avdotya says, "We had wondered why we had received no new orders. We... We... we do not wish to die here. You may pass. Just please do not kill us."  Finally. According to the obelisk, you have reached the research supply docks. You can smell your freedom on the salty wind.  The rows of mines alternate brown, green, and brown. You detonate them with your collection of spore batons.   A Sholai scout spots you and shouts an alarm before you can silence him.  Trajkov stationed his finest wizards and warriors here. Many of them pulse with canister-imbued power. You are surrounded, lamed, and so close to flight.  You throw the best of your spores in the air, feeding them essence that they might heal you and your creations. You must persevere.  No matter how many enemies remain, you will escape this island.  You will swim in Sholai blood if you must.  Your creations stand strong against the outsiders' suicidal charge.  You're so close.  The building to the northwest beckons; you might find shelter there -- a means to funnel the Sholai and then break out to the docks.  The Sholai have clogged it up with more brown spore mines, but you clear them. The pursuit has died down, though you know not for how long. You read an old tome while you catch your breath. Game Text posted:This book is an account ledger for the keeper of this dock. Most of the pages contain lists of the goods coming in and out and the locations where they were sent. Most of the supplies that came through here went to the "Main research halls." You close your eyes for a moment. A chill sweeps through you. Then you jolt back to action at a distant sound, real or imagined. You have much left to do.  It's time to go.   Game Text posted:Long delayed, the diplomacy between the Sholai and the Shapers begins. The Shaper council is impressed by how well the surviving Sholai resisted the temptation of their secrets. Your people and theirs begin a long and profitable relationship.  The Obeyers posted:When the Shapers searched Sucia Island, they found the Obeyers. At first, they were worried by these strange, rather independent creations. Then they met Rydell. The Takers posted:When the Shapers went to Sucia Island to investigate, they found the Takers. They were completely surprised by the level of rebellion and hatred in the serviles of Kazg. They are not so surprised, however, that they could not act. 
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Thank you to everyone who read, chatted, voted, and everything! This would have been a slog without you all. We still have some content left, including other endings and how to get them and some areas that Solution didn't reach.
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Seven months on Sucia. Congratulations on completing it! That ending was also quite a bit more upbeat than I was expecting, going in. I must admit that despite our continuous treachery, that ultimately worked out significantly better for the rogue servile tribes than I had predicted. Yes, even the Takers.
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Well. That went well for Solution! Good work, Solution. This has been fantastic, thank you for writing it!
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Congratulations, POOL IS CLOSED! And yeah, like Manxome says, that was considerably more optimistic than I was expecting.
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You should've seen the rough draft for real ultimate murder!  Thank you guys for taking part. Now I'm trying to decide if I'll LP G2 next or if I'll do a different Spiderweb game in the meantime.
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So we just left our Good Buddies there to die after all the pain and hard work they did for us?
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Slaan posted:So we just left our Good Buddies there to die after all the pain and hard work they did for us? The Shapers who went after us to clean things up took care of them! Probably! Look, little RickVoid is happy on that farm now. Creations love being outside. They can play out there! Hunt ornks! Run free!
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:You should've seen the rough draft for real ultimate murder! Personally I'm voting for G2. Also, any chance of seeing some of the other ending screens? I haven't been able to find a good source for seeing all of the various endings for G1.
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PurpleXVI posted:Personally I'm voting for G2. I'm going to (try to) post all the endings I know of for G1, since there are so many.
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After Gene-Reforging (with apologies to Robert Frost) My fyora friends are waiting on the shore Not dead as such, And there's a power that I didn't touch Gone to dust, and there may be one or more Lost canisters I didn't spot somehow. But I am done with gene-reforging now. Essence of freedom flies upon the air The lure of power: I leave it behind. But I can't tear my thoughts away from there What I did find when opening a tin That gave new strength in body and in mind, Remade my self both without and within Made of me both Problem and Solution, But I am well And at least most of me survived to tell, How Shapers fell Their triumph and final resolution. Our breath-blessed tools are made and made again, Claws and teeth and red flame, Drawn out as if by some beast-trailing pen I fear my spirit faces dilution, The impression of a dozen others I will remember each and every name Of those that I have made and those unmade Without mothers The bone and flesh I knit to give me aid But I have had too much Of gene-reforging: I am overtired Of all the powers I myself desired. To always know without knowing as such To feel this creeping madness in my mind To find That life and death Meant less to me than once they might have done And always fated now to author strife To still their breath To ever lose even when I have won This life I'll seek, whatever Shape it takes Will serve me well Whether a hero's, clown's, a fool's, or rake's I long, as one who's plumbed the depths of hell For just a human life.
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Congratulations: it's good to see this completed, and I hope you decide to keep showing the series!
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They sent a poet! I really love these, idonotlikepeas. (e: sorry! I messed up while reading on my phone!  )thetruegentleman posted:Congratulations: it's good to see this completed, and I hope you decide to keep showing the series! Thanks! I'll give it my best shot. I must admit that 2 isn't my favorite in the series, but we will see why when the time comes. POOL IS CLOSED fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Oh man. It's been a long time coming. I'm not really sure why, but my expectations for the ending of this game were lower than they should have been. Yeah, the writing has some technical issues from time to time, but there was enough sophistication in the presentation of the material that I probably should have expected more. So when I got impatient and gunned for the end, the last screen kinda blindsided me. For whatever reason, it elevated the ending sequence to just about my favourite in gaming, and I'll always remember the last line - 'You can not unring a bell.' I hope you do take on Geneforge 2 at some point, POOL IS CLOSED, but even if you don't, thank you so much for an excellent LP anyway. edit: Also I think that was idonotlikepeas again, not TooMuchAbstraction. I wouldn't want such hard work misattributed! Also, yeah, that was kind of incredible, idonotlikepeas. vdate fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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