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Mr. Nice! posted:USS Fitzgerald crashed into a merchant ship. U.S. Navy Destroyer Collides With Merchant Vessel Off Coast Of Japan At least this one ran into another ship, and not the entire nation of Japan like the Antietam did.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:40
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Never having transited Yokosuka personally can anyone confirm that 50 miles south is out of the area where you've got narrow channels to worry about, but may still have a maneuvering watch stationed due to level of traffic. On a map it looks like the area in question is IVO that little horn
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Jun 17, 2017 01:11
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Wingnut Ninja posted:U.S. Navy Destroyer Collides With Merchant Vessel Off Coast Of Japan Sounds like a few are missing... They'll need a SME brought in to help find them; 
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Jun 17, 2017 03:34
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Catch Me If You Can 2
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Jun 17, 2017 04:49
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M_Gargantua posted:Never having transited Yokosuka personally Dan anyone confirm that 50 miles south is out of the area where you've got narrow channels to worry about, but may still have a maneuvering watch stationed due to level of traffic. On a map it looks like the area in question is IVO that little horn I have been through that area and it is very heavy with shipping. My boat was nearly run over a few times in that area.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:50
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I've stood a lot of OOD in Sagami Wan. Part of the challenge is increased background lighting and merchants who get there early loitering while waiting for their pilot time. Weather can also be bad, especially during the rainy season which is now.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:52
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Jesus christ. What time did the collision happen? As a person who slept in berthing 2 I can't image how hosed up this is.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:55
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ded posted:I have been through that area and it is very heavy with shipping. My boat was nearly run over a few times in that area. Transiting shipping lanes to port on the surface at night in a submarine is pretty much the last thing I'd ever want to do at sea. Except maybe shark cage diving.
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Jun 17, 2017 17:10
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SPACE HOMOS posted:Jesus christ. What time did the collision happen? As a person who slept in berthing 2 I can't image how hosed up this is. 2:30am local time.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:30
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MrYenko posted:Transiting shipping lanes to port on the surface at night in a submarine is pretty much the last thing I'd ever want to do at sea. One of those times was the only time I both heard the skipper call for ahead flank on the surface AND the helmsman caught a reversed rudder call and gave the skipper a polite 'say again sir?' which he caught and gave the proper call. It would have ended up turning us directly into a supersized container ship.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:45
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So, I was on the collision yesterday. I am the FITZ DCA. I'll put that out there now for everyone. I don't care. The collision happened around 0130. I remember looking at my watch when I felt the ship do a strange maneuver. It woke me up. I know that basic damage control saved my ship yesterday. We battled to keep her stable for 19 hours. The first 8 were the worst and fastest of my life. If you guys have questions, I will answer what I can within the guidelines I have.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:12
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The Valley Stared posted:So, I was on the collision yesterday. I am the FITZ DCA. I'll put that out there now for everyone. I don't care. I have a ton, but I won't ask them. What I will say though is that if you haven't started to make a detailed written account of what happened, you need to stop what you're doing and start that right now. The lessons learned will be invaluable down the road.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:14
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ManMythLegend posted:I have a ton, but I won't ask them.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:21
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Document as if your career depends on it. And possibly others in the future. Once everything settles down in a few weeks if you wanna share a more personal account I'd love to hear it.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:24
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Mr. Nice! posted:2:30am local time. God drat. Sorry enlisted. The Valley Stared posted:So, I was on the collision yesterday. I am the FITZ DCA. I'll put that out there now for everyone. I don't care. I can only imagine the GQ for this. As an STG my GQ spot was in the equipment room next to sonar control. Thank those dudes in the nearest fire locker.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:26
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The Valley Stared posted:So, I was on the collision yesterday. I am the FITZ DCA. I'll put that out there now for everyone. I don't care. Dude good job doing what you did to help save that ship. No loving joke. You got jolted awake to a DCA's worst loving nightmare and saved the ship. I feel for you and all your guys. I wouldn't want anyone to have to go through that poo poo.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:31
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The Valley Stared posted:So, I was on the collision yesterday. I am the FITZ DCA. I'll put that out there now for everyone. I don't care. What was your first call when you realized what happened?
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Jun 18, 2017 01:35
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Yesterday, everyone on board was a DCmen. I know that you heard that all the time from DC schools, but it is the god drat truth. For the love of god, to everyone here: Take damage control drills seriously. We recently had a drill for Repair 2 with flooding in Berthing 2. It went terrible. We chewed the guys out and made them go back down to train on the equipment and what they did wrong. But I think it's things like that that save my ship. Every Wednesday and Friday are DC drill days. They knew how to use the equipment. They knew how to isolate. The crew is used to hearing me over the 1MC. The Valley Stared fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 01:40
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Stultus Maximus posted:What was your first call when you realized what happened? My first call? I grabbed the 1MC and said set general quarters. after taking control. Going down to CCS I was yelling down and aft port up and forward starboard because people were going against the flow in confusion. I also yelled that if people didn't have a repair locker to go to the messdecks.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:44
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It might be best if you limited greatly what you write about the incident here. Never know where a JAG investigation will go.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:47
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The Valley Stared posted:My first call? I grabbed the 1MC and said set general quarters. after taking control. Going down to CCS I was yelling down and aft port up and forward starboard because people were going against the flow in confusion. I also yelled that if people didn't have a repair locker to go to the messdecks. I'm really interested in how you dealt with all the initial stages. Like 99% of sailors, major collision at sea is not something I've ever experienced and I've never been in a DC drill scenario of that situation. I honestly have no idea what the procedures would be.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:47
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ded posted:It might be best if you limited greatly what you write about the incident here. Never know where a JAG investigation will go. Roger. I'll go back and edit them. Thank you.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:48
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I don't want some jackass to take something you write and twist it into bullshit that gets someone into trouble. You did a great job saving the ship.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:57
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Mr. Nice! posted:Dude good job doing what you did to help save that ship. No loving joke. You got jolted awake to a DCA's worst loving nightmare and saved the ship. Pretty much this. And what other goons have said. You guys (and girls) are going through hell, hope everyone's all right in the long run.
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Jun 18, 2017 02:17
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I appreciate it. I'm still processing a lot of it, and knowing that this place is filled with Navy sailors made me a little too comfortable. The information that I posted is consistent with the news, except for the time. I'll praise my sailors for their damage control abilities, but I'm not going to talk about the damage publicly at this time, nor anything involving the time leading to the collision. I've already talked with my best friend and my mentor, both former DCAs so I was able to speak with them more thoroughly on the damage and what we did. But if you know anyone on the ship, get in touch with them, even if it's just to say you're thinking about them. I know that there will be lots of "Well look at where the damage hit!" posts and armchair OODs, but please, tell people you're thinking about them. It means more than you will ever know. Seeing the crowd on the pier when we got back was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. Being told that we had support and that others were standing by for us made me realize that we weren't alone.
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Jun 18, 2017 02:21
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I'm guilty as gently caress about armchair OODing and all, but seriously still good job doing what you did. You handled yourself well, and I'm glad that you're out there to do it. You saved lives.
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Jun 18, 2017 02:25
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I'm sorry TVS. Just know that you guys are on our minds.
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Jun 18, 2017 03:10
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Jesus, hell of a job saving that ship. And from the pictures, she came into harbor with far less of a list and riding much higher than the initial images/video.
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Jun 18, 2017 03:18
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http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/Display/Article/1217825/uss-fitzgerald-collision-update-1033am-jst-june-18-2017/#.WUXZvwAnLVQ.facebook gently caress. Also, TVS, regardless of the social media experts that will crawl out of the woodwork, you guys did one hell of a job keeping the damage to the ship contained.
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Jun 18, 2017 03:21
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As a former LPD DCA, I salute you. If you feel comfortable saying, how far below waterline was the damage and how much did you list?
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Jun 18, 2017 04:08
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The Valley Stared posted:I appreciate it. I'm still processing a lot of it, and knowing that this place is filled with Navy sailors made me a little too comfortable. The information that I posted is consistent with the news, except for the time. Just saw the news that confirmed that 7 Sailors were killed. I've lost a few friends in Navy in aviation mishaps and it really sucks. Take some solace in the fact that by the looks of it you and the crew did an amazing job of keeping that ship going. Yes, there will be a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking. Do your best to ignore it. Condolences to you and the crew.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:24
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Good job dude. No matter why it happened you guys did what was needed. I hope some day you teach what you learned.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:48
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Just echoing some sentiments in here about how most of this should be redacted off this page.
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Jun 18, 2017 05:13
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I don't know anything about naval OPSEC so can someone confirm everything needing to be redacted has been?
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Jun 18, 2017 07:36
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Zeris posted:I don't know anything about naval OPSEC so can someone confirm everything needing to be redacted has been? Looks ok to me.
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Jun 18, 2017 07:45
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Echoing sentiments
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Jun 18, 2017 08:28
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Zeris posted:I don't know anything about naval OPSEC so can someone confirm everything needing to be redacted has been? Everything posted so far has already been released to major media outlets.
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Jun 18, 2017 08:30
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Your people averted an even worse outcome, thank you for your work
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Jun 18, 2017 08:47
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Again, thank you all for the thoughts. At this time, I won't post about the extent of the damage. Is it bad? Yes. Will there be courses and interviews about this? Yes, and once that is out and released, you'll get more first hand accounts. I am glad that we were able to account for all of our sailors. Thank you Chuckle for posting the link as I hadn't seen that yet. I'm working on my write up now. I'll probably be doing that for the next few hours. My internal clock is all sorts of messed up now and it will be something to work on. It's a strange thought knowing that you are about to be a case study in both Damage control and how and why it works when it works well, and a case study for what went wrong and why you should be better.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:18
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Just echoing the sentiment that you all did a hell of a job saving the ship and averting further catastrophe. Don't let Monday morning quarterbacks or dumbass edgelords get inside your head.
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