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I've said it before, I'll say it again: Stop treating driving as a right. If someone's caught driving dangerously (drunk, fatigued, texting, whatever) take their licence. If they retake the test, give them a second chance. If they gently caress up again (within a year), ban them for five years. If they get do the test again and get the licence back after that, their probationary period is five years and any infraction results in permanent loss of licence. People are being killed by irresponsible drivers all the time, but for some reason we just accept that as OK. If you demonstrate that you can't be trusted to operate a vehicle safely, why should you be allowed to do it at all?
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Tiggum posted:I've said it before, I'll say it again: Stop treating driving as a right. If someone's caught driving dangerously (drunk, fatigued, texting, whatever) take their licence. If they retake the test, give them a second chance. If they gently caress up again (within a year), ban them for five years. If they get do the test again and get the licence back after that, their probationary period is five years and any infraction results in permanent loss of licence. People are being killed by irresponsible drivers all the time, but for some reason we just accept that as OK. If you demonstrate that you can't be trusted to operate a vehicle safely, why should you be allowed to do it at all? It would destroy employment figures. Even people with a bunch of DUI's get exceptions to be able to drive to and from work at specific times.
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Jun 18, 2017 16:27
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I dunno, I just bought a new car with CarPlay - I just plug my phone in and the apps shift to the car's built-in screen. I can receive texts, compose/send replies, and make/receive calls solely by voice, it's pretty cool. There's still an element of distraction because you're doing two things at once, but it's a helluva lot less than trying to type on a lovely virtual keyboard and drive at the same time. Of course, it's not a huge deal for me, because I'm old so I'm not texting constantly and don't talk on the phone much, plus it's a stick shift vehicle so you kinda need both hands anyway.
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Jun 18, 2017 16:28
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Solice Kirsk posted:It would destroy employment figures. Even people with a bunch of DUI's get exceptions to be able to drive to and from work at specific times. And this is an awful system that enables their dangerous addiction. My aunt has 5 DUIs in the past year and a half or so (and honestly probably drives drunk nearly daily) and she keeps getting light sentences with only days in jail and more recently a small amount of house arrest (which she violates all the time by getting friends to deliver her liquor). And surprise surprise, she hasn't learned any sort of lesson. If anything it encourages her to do it more because her hosed up mind actually likes jail and not having to cook for herself etc. If you are suffering from an addiction you don't need employment, you need treatment.
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Jun 18, 2017 16:40
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I'm not condoning it, I'm just saying why it isn't punished more harshly.
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Jun 18, 2017 16:43
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I really don't understand the european fascination with indian food. Whenever I eat with german colleagues they almost always choose indian or their even worse chinese food. You have very good german specialties cooked properly for cheaper, but no, let's order food that is extremely overcooked and dry as hell. Their chinese food is just embarrassing. Overall my unpopular opinion is that indian food is almost always a dry spiced pile of mush and people only obsess over it because it's "ethnic".
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Jun 18, 2017 21:34
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I've had good Indian food, but only by Indians. No one has ever made good Bengali food. No one.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:51
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Its one of those things where if we seriously cracked down, itd destroy the economy.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:52
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I really don't understand the european fascination with indian food. Whenever I eat with german colleagues they almost always choose indian or their even worse chinese food. You have very good german specialties cooked properly for cheaper, but no, let's order food that is extremely overcooked and dry as hell. Their chinese food is just embarrassing. It reifies their tasty colonial history
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Jun 18, 2017 21:52
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Jastiger posted:Its one of those things where if we seriously cracked down, itd destroy the economy. On Indian food?
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Jun 18, 2017 22:15
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So... Indian food - is it just for riff-raff?
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Jun 18, 2017 22:18
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Jerry Cotton posted:So... Indian food - is it just for riff-raff? It should just be for the Indians otherwise it's a little thing I call cultural appropriation
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Jun 18, 2017 22:27
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I will order pitchers of PBR to watch an nba game with friends because it's a third of the price of everything else and lets us keep the table. Buying cheap beer but tipping well can save you pretty good money in the end
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Jun 18, 2017 22:28
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Potato Salad posted:I will order pitchers of PBR to watch an nba game with friends because it's a third of the price of everything else and lets us keep the table. Why not just go to each other's house to watch it?
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Jun 18, 2017 22:29
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Tiggum posted:I've said it before, I'll say it again: Stop treating driving as a right. If someone's caught driving dangerously (drunk, fatigued, texting, whatever) take their licence. If they retake the test, give them a second chance. If they gently caress up again (within a year), ban them for five years. If they get do the test again and get the licence back after that, their probationary period is five years and any infraction results in permanent loss of licence. People are being killed by irresponsible drivers all the time, but for some reason we just accept that as OK. If you demonstrate that you can't be trusted to operate a vehicle safely, why should you be allowed to do it at all? I'm 100% behind this without exception. If you gently caress this up and willingly choose to drive on the same road as my husband or me while drunk, gently caress you. Lost your job? Sucks to suck.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:33
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Mu Zeta posted:Why not just go to each other's house to watch it? I've done the math. I can spend three nice evenings out with friends with beer and food cooked by someone else for the price of cable.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:34
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Mu Zeta posted:Why not just go to each other's house to watch it? Bars are fun?
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Jun 18, 2017 23:34
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I guess if cost is an issue I rather have better beer at a home than PBR at the bar
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Jun 18, 2017 23:35
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oldpainless posted:It should just be for the Indians otherwise it's a little thing I call cultural appropriation What about Aryans?
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Jun 18, 2017 23:39
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure, he's the oldest person ever elected as president. And look at 2020. He'll be running for re-election at 74 while his most likely opponents (at the moment) will be 72 (Warren), 76 (Biden) and 80 (Sanders). Baby Boomers are having a very difficult time stepping aside, no matter liberal or conservative.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:29
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Or spend 2 more bucks for a pitcher and drink beer that doesn't give you rot gut.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:33
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pbr isn't mad dog or something, it's like water. If it gives you rot gut anything will.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:07
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PBR is good. It's a pilsner "suds"-class beer that actually has flavour.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:34
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Henchman of Santa posted:On Indian food? Texting while driving. Content: drunk driving is some bullshit, but we are too draconian regarding BAC levels. We have yet to find a happy medium, especislly since most people would be legally over the limit with maybe one or two drinks.
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Jun 19, 2017 02:41
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don't drink and drive, it's that simple. actually don't drink at all, booze is bad, and that's my unpopular opinion
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Jun 19, 2017 02:47
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This month marks the 7th person I know who died from getting hit by a drunk driver. Pretty sick of people thinking they can handle being drunk behind the wheel.
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Jun 19, 2017 03:11
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New PHUO: Steak and BBQ are wildly overrated, and eating meat from the bone is kind of dumb.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:19
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Bone-in meat not only tastes the best, it reminds you that you killed something to eat it. Grab it with your hands and pull that poo poo off the bone with your teeth.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:25
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Jun 19, 2017 05:31
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Aramek posted:Bone-in meat not only tastes the best, it reminds you that you killed something to eat it. Grab it with your hands and pull that poo poo off the bone with your teeth. There is actually some sort of primal instinct to this that just feels right to me
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Jun 19, 2017 05:43
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Yeah yeah it's very primal buying the packaged meat from the animal slaughtered several states away and getting your hands really greasy with sauces made from spices farmed thousands of miles away. Just like hunting antelope on the savanna. You're right that meat on the bone tastes best... Just take it off the bone after you cook it.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:46
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mind the walrus posted:Yeah yeah it's very primal buying the packaged meat from the animal slaughtered several states away and getting your hands really greasy with sauces made from spices farmed thousands of miles away. Just like hunting antelope on the savanna You nailed the feeling exactly and reading your words made my penis hard with blood. Did you ever think about working as an erotic fiction writer
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Jun 19, 2017 05:54
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Only if it's about unpopular opinions
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Jun 19, 2017 07:13
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Jastiger posted:Content: drunk driving is some bullshit, but we are too draconian regarding BAC levels. We have yet to find a happy medium, especislly since most people would be legally over the limit with maybe one or two drinks.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:58
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steinrokkan posted:What about Aryans? *in a Jastigerly voice* they are riff raff.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:19
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Jastiger posted:Content: drunk driving is some bullshit, but we are too draconian regarding BAC levels. We have yet to find a happy medium, especislly since most people would be legally over the limit with maybe one or two drinks. lovely drunk driver spotted.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:22
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Jastiger posted:Its one of those things where if we seriously cracked down, itd destroy the economy. In Australia driving punishments are VERY severe, and yet the economy is doing fine, certainly not destroyed. Yet again SA is ignorant to other countries outside the US/Canada. It's like how Americans are terrified of Socialism. Socialism rules, we tried it out. The experiment was a success!
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Jun 19, 2017 15:29
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Im not saying drunk driving is cool and good. And if you hurt someone while drunk, then there is the guillotine right over there. Im just saying that an arbitrary bac limit at a random stop shouldnt cause someone to be treated thr same as straddling the median at 60mph totally inebriated. It should be based on competence at the time, not a breathalizer number. Imo the solution is better public transit and affordable vehicle recovery.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:19
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Jastiger posted:It should be based on competence at the time, not a breathalizer number. Instituting a subjective measure instead of an objective one is completely stupid. There needs to be a hard limit we can point to and go "you are drunk if over this limit." We have Uber now, there's no excuse for drinking and driving unless you're an rear end in a top hat. Get a DD, get a cab, get an Uber, take public transit, etc.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:58
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WHAt if you can only afford either alcohol or an uber? I know what I'm spending it on
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