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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Dick Trauma posted:

I saw that Errol Morris post up above and it had a link to an interview he did with Trump 15 years ago for the Oscars, concerning Citizen Kane. In it you can see that Trump at 55 has already been reduced to the simple speech that underlies the way he speaks now, but that he can still talk reasonably well. The big words he used in his forties are gone but the thought processes are there.

If you can't watch much skip to the last 20 seconds or so when Morris asks him a question about marriage. It's amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQOJZ-QzBk

That whole thing is weird and misogynistic. Unsurprising for the life and environment he lived and was immersed in, but uh

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I can't imagine an entire film about Trump by Morris. It was hard enough to watch the one about Rumsfeld and he could speak.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Dick Trauma posted:

I can't imagine an entire film about Trump by Morris. It was hard enough to watch the one about Rumsfeld and he could speak.

Morris wouldn't even have to do anything.

It'd just be three hours of trump admitting treason, stock footage, and Huey Lewis and the news.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe
The thing about teh father's day tweet is-

It's not as if the grand illusionist DJT pulled the wool over everyone's eyes, only to reveal post inauguration, "Hah! I in truth am a megalomaniacal narcissus who will use twitter with the fury of an overcaffinated fourteen-year-old! HAHAHAHAHHAA!" The evidence has been there the whole loving time. I know, I know, but sometimes it bears repeating.

Ladies and gents, the president of the 'family values party.'

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


...Tiffany.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe
:golfclap:

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)

AlternateNu posted:

The CO, XO, OOD, and possibly the TAO/CICWO will get fired. The OOD's Department Head could get a letter of reprimand for failing to train their DIVO properly (assuming the OOD was a DIVO and not a DH for some reason). There is very little chance anyone will have a criminal case brought up on them because criminal negligence is something the Navy doesn't like to prosecute when it comes to navigation accidents. (Of course, they don't typically end with 7+ people dead in addition to the millions in damages, so take that as you will.)

The only way criminal charges might be filed is If the CO was on the bridge and sanctioned the maneuver or if it was logged that the OOD called the CO, gave him the plan, and the CO signed off on it. Of course, depending on the CO, 0-dark-30 calls to the CO's cabin about navigation plans aren't the most scrutinized, especially if the CO can see on his radar display that there isn't much out there since you're likely jostling them straight out of REM sleep.


Its the weekend and they're bored. Give them a break.

What if there is any hint of drug or alcohol use? Or something more minor, like falsifying training records? Or falsifying medical/fitness records?

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
http://time.com/4822494/roger-stone-donald-trump-marijuana-legalize/

I don't know what to think of this!

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

4 years ago today, our moron president tweeted this

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/347191326112112640

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010


Where's the press release version of this

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Where's the press release version of this

It's old

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

Given that:

Time posted:

In May, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who has long opposed legalization, sent a letter to Congress asking lawmakers to allow the Department of Justice to crack down on businesses and people in states where medical marijuana is legal.

If [state] had legalized mj, and federal agents come by waving Sessions' crack-down orders, arresting people, would'nt the federal law override the state's?
I ask because STATE'S RIGHTS!

e: correction

KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jun 18, 2017

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



What we can look forward to in a Pence presidency, he ain't too bright.

quote:

At first, it sounded like a good idea: Indiana would use a public-private partnership to extend I-69 from Bloomington to Martinsville, relying on private sector ingenuity to bring it in on time and under budget.

But the project is two years behind schedule. The prolonged construction has increased traffic accidents and lengthened commute times. And, now, as the state is dissolving the partnership — which some argue could end up costing Hoosiers millions of dollars — a difficult question needs to be asked:

How did this once-touted project — pitched and promoted by then-Gov. Mike Pence as a model for smart infrastructure planning — become such an embarrassing mess?

tl:dr, he chose the bid that came in waaay under cost estimates, from a company that had never done US roadwork and had people go to jail for scamming.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

KickerOfMice posted:

Given that:


If [state] had legalized mj, and federal agents come by waving Sessions' crack-down orders, arresting people, would the federal law override the state's?

Yes. The only reason that the feds haven't been arresting people is that the Obama Administration had a policy of tolerating it, and Congress has been passing budget riders prohibiting the DOJ from loving around with medical weed (i don't think this applies to the states that legalized it recreationally however).

professor_curly
Mar 4, 2016

There he is!
Yes. Anywhere State and Federal law conflict, Federal law wins. State's rights only exist insofar as the Federal Government allows them to exist.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Party Plane Jones posted:

Also Twitter is a great service:
https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/876130803591368709

Seriously though; the more you spend on Twitter the more absurd the absolute lack of competent moderation team it has. Even Facebook does a better job with this kind of poo poo (nevermind the fact that they have to rotate people out of the moderation team pretty quickly due to all the corpses and child porn giving mods PTSD)

https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/875695420269355011

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



evilweasel posted:

Yes. The only reason that the feds haven't been arresting people is that the Obama Administration had a policy of tolerating it, and Congress has been passing budget riders prohibiting the DOJ from loving around with medical weed (i don't think this applies to the states that legalized it recreationally however).

I remember when Sessions started making initial threats, there was a surprisingly bipartisan reaction against it simply because there's enough republicans from legal-weed states that don't want their tax dollars going away.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

evilweasel posted:

Yes. The only reason that the feds haven't been arresting people is that the Obama Administration had a policy of tolerating it, and Congress has been passing budget riders prohibiting the DOJ from loving around with medical weed (i don't think this applies to the states that legalized it recreationally however).

My next question then would be - If republicans have demonstrated the family values are not as important as beating the democrats, and all the blither about state's rights is actually just inconsequential, what the hell is the endgame? What is the actual core of principles that the republican party stands for?

(This poster has been chokeslammed for painting republicans in a poor light.)

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

Drone posted:

I always really disliked how we eventually reached a point where all (most) of our carriers are named after presidents. They used to have awesome and iconic names like Yorktown, Hornet, Wasp, Ranger. Now the only CVN not named after a person is the new Ford-class Enterprise, and she won't be launched for another 6 years.

Oh, and Jimmy Carter got a submarine named after him instead of a carrier, because he was a submariner.

I want the navy to go back to naming subs after fish. USS Cod, USS Trout, etc.

Raylen
Aug 1, 2003

You just killed the nice deranged chick from the juice bar that I was gonna score with someday maybe!
Pillbug

ekeog posted:

I remember when Sessions started making initial threats, there was a surprisingly bipartisan reaction against it simply because there's enough republicans from legal-weed states that don't want their tax dollars going away.

A lot of the collected tax revenue also provides stability for budget shortfalls in critical areas like police salary budgets and education facility upgrades. Lawmakers don't have to drastically raise property taxes to fund schools as much nowadays which is good too. Anyone have the figures for the sales taxes by state? I think I remember a clerk telling me that the tax paid was like 57% of the total price in Seattle?

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

KickerOfMice posted:

My next question then would be - If republicans have demonstrated the family values are not as important as beating the democrats, and all the blither about state's rights is actually just inconsequential, what the hell is the endgame? What is the actual core of principles that the republican party stands for?

(This poster has been chokeslammed for painting republicans in a poor light.)

more money for republicans

gently caress you

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

KickerOfMice posted:

My next question then would be - If republicans have demonstrated the family values are not as important as beating the democrats, and all the blither about state's rights is actually just inconsequential, what the hell is the endgame? What is the actual core of principles that the republican party stands for?

(This poster has been chokeslammed for painting republicans in a poor light.)

this is where prester jane's analysis can be useful, because it does seem like the only thing they stand for is Defeating the Enemy (which are the democrats)

undoing obama policies no matter what achieves this

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

KickerOfMice posted:

My next question then would be - If republicans have demonstrated the family values are not as important as beating the democrats, and all the blither about state's rights is actually just inconsequential, what the hell is the endgame? What is the actual core of principles that the republican party stands for?

(This poster has been chokeslammed for painting republicans in a poor light.)

There's not really one anymore. It's mostly the party of resentment. Even the pro-business stuff has to give way to resentment.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

evilweasel posted:

There's not really one anymore. It's mostly the party of resentment. Even the pro-business stuff has to give way to resentment.

This immensely. Even Republicans I have the diservice of knowing in real life admit their main motivating factor in life is to "stick it to liberals." They are literally the party of internet trolls now.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

KickerOfMice posted:

My next question then would be - If republicans have demonstrated the family values are not as important as beating the democrats, and all the blither about state's rights is actually just inconsequential, what the hell is the endgame? What is the actual core of principles that the republican party stands for?

(This poster has been chokeslammed for painting republicans in a poor light.)

1) More Money for Us

2) gently caress You

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
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Rigel posted:

1) More Money for Us

2) gently caress You

This heh, I see as more of their theme music.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

AceOfFlames posted:

Well, maybe if the rockets to to opposite ends of the galaxy...

...man, that would make for a weird as hell retelling of Foundation.

or Star Control 2 :v:

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

UberJew posted:

this is where prester jane's analysis can be useful, because it does seem like the only thing they stand for is Defeating the Enemy (which are the democrats)

undoing obama policies no matter what achieves this

Seriously though, the compaction theory does give insight into how the remaining small angry core could have devolved into a raving pack of loons whose only goal is to watch the left burn no matter the consequences, up to and including killing themselves.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005





Wait, I just noticed InternetHippo blocked me... I don't even tweet!

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003


Roger Stone considers his Nixon bongs to be among his most prized possessions. Dude is a loving human wasteland and everything wrong with politics, but he sure likes to blaze it up.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

Twitter is a poo poo company that still can't figure out how to properly monetize its own concept. It's never going to get better and I'm sad that I still peruse the drat thing because so many of the people who's podcats/blogs/whatever I follow give updates through there.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Raylen posted:

Got it. No national/regional accreditation so it couldn't except federally subsidized student loans like the Stafford, etc? Like I realize that Trump University wasn't an actual institute of higher education but what are the barriers to being able to accept student loans at for-profit scams like theirs? Didn't we just have the debacle with Corinthian Colleges? I met a few people who went to school at Heald and could either have their credits transferred (if they were accepted) or have their student debt forgiven.

There was no school or classes. It was just seminars with rando's teaching. It was a real estate scam. There is no way you could get a loan for "trump university".

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Covok posted:

This immensely. Even Republicans I have the diservice of knowing in real life admit their main motivating factor in life is to "stick it to liberals." They are literally the party of internet trolls now.

I blame Rush (and equivalents). They beat the "if liberals hate it it must be good" drum hard whenever they weren't able to explain how the big business trickle down was actually beneficial to the average GOP voter.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

I wonder if there would be a market for a social media platform that cost $10.00 per registration. That feature is part of what makes SA all in all a pretty decent community by internet standards. It gets rid of bots, it cuts down on trolls. Imagine a twitter that was free to browse but cost to post and vote. Would it get users?

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Raylen posted:

So the ranking member of the House Intel Committee just said he thinks there is evidence of collusion? That seems like kind of a big accusation to make because I'm sure he has seen a ton of classified documents that we might never find out about or know the details of except in the abstract. Or would Schiff be making a bigger deal about this if there was more conclusive evidence pointing towards collusion?

No, he said the same thing he said 3 months ago. There isn't evidence he'd bring before a jury, but evidence that they should keep investigating/grand jury type poo poo.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

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Apr 3, 2010



KickerOfMice posted:

My next question then would be - If republicans have demonstrated the family values are not as important as beating the democrats, and all the blither about state's rights is actually just inconsequential, what the hell is the endgame? What is the actual core of principles that the republican party stands for?

(This poster has been chokeslammed for painting republicans in a poor light.)

Kellyanne Conway’s Plan for ‘Demographic War’

Someone posted this a couple days ago and it says all that needs to be said. The Republicans are facing an existential crisis as they have built their entire current party upon white guys and some white women. But White America is taking its last breath. There will soon be more Latinos/Hispanics/other things that aren't actually a race or proper group but we have to call them something that means "non-white" As I recall, the 2012 Autopsy said they had to appeal more to minorities. Trump spit in the face of that and triple-downed on racist rhetoric. It got them some temporary ground but it's still a battle they cannot win.

Seized with fear of irrelevance, their only "endgame" is to try and cling to power with everything they have and if that means taking everyone else down with them, so be it.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Eltoasto posted:

What we can look forward to in a Pence presidency, he ain't too bright.


tl:dr, he chose the bid that came in waaay under cost estimates, from a company that had never done US roadwork and had people go to jail for scamming.

Hmm the company would not happen to be CH2M would it? Because it sounds like the same kind of thing that is going on in Texas. Was supposed to be finished in 2015 and now does not look like their most recent update of end of 2017 will be correct.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
No, you see if we could create more private / government projects it would be more efficient...

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Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

BarbarianElephant posted:

Not according to the loving edgelords on this forum. I don't think they have any sense that he's a real human being, they talk about him like he's a bad guy character on a TV show.

I'm left wing *because* the left values human life, even that of people who did bad things (prisoners say.) If the left values human life only if they are on the right team, gently caress 'em. That way leads to bad places. Nazis weren't the only mass murderers out there in the early 20th century.
This is weak bullshit and serves to keep the ruling class right where it is, oppressing and murdering people with impunity. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Again, it's not immoral to wish bad things upon bad people - especially if it prevents or delays them from doing more bad things. Nor is it evil to take delight or consolation on the rare occasion when it actually happens.

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