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milk milk lemonade posted:What's not great about America again. Why do white people love complaining so much. You guys have the weirdest persecution complex about your country. America is just fine, it isn't going bloody anywhere.
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Jun 18, 2017 19:59
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Hexyflexy posted:You guys have the weirdest persecution complex about your country. America is just fine, it isn't going bloody anywhere. you forgot to add "now that Trump is here to save everything"
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Jun 18, 2017 20:04
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Hexyflexy posted:You guys have the weirdest persecution complex about your country. America is just fine, it isn't going bloody anywhere. Wronggggg Those homos and those thugs and those feminazis (aka liberal snowflakes) are trying to ruin the country and must be stopped.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:11
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Hexyflexy posted:You guys have the weirdest persecution complex about your country. America is just fine, it isn't going bloody anywhere. Why people believed that a loudmouth egomaniac millionaire would correct this is beyond my ability to understand others' thought processes.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:30
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Poor white people in the US are usually dumber than a box of poo poo, tricking them en masse is as easy as tricking a baby boomer
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Jun 18, 2017 20:36
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Dead Reckoning posted:While being poor and white in America is not as lovely as being poor and black, it is still quite lovely, and continues to get shittier as low skill jobs are displaced and the gap between rich and poor continues to grow. Have you heard of one Benjamin Ghazi? I hear he had emails that proved the former president was born in Kenya before being targeted for assassination.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:37
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Dead Reckoning posted:While being poor and white in America is not as lovely as being poor and black, it is still quite lovely, and continues to get shittier as low skill jobs are displaced and the gap between rich and poor continues to grow. "Not as lovely" being a shorthand for describing being in a better position by an order of magnitude.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:52
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Kawasaki Nun posted:"Not as lovely" being a shorthand for describing being in a better position by an order of magnitude. Even if I agreed that it was literally an order of magnitude worse, it's utterly irrelevant as an argument. "Oh, don't you know that little kids are starving in Pakistan? Shut up and be happy with your lot in life." If you remove someone's leg without anesthetic, explaining that doing invasive abdominal surgery, or both legs for that matter, would be worse will not ameliorate their pain.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:00
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Stultus Maximus posted:Ever notice how Trump is obsessed with "losing" and "winning?" Trump and his trumpeters have the mindset that if someone is winning, it must be at the expense of others. So any time they see a black person, a gay person, a woman, an immigrant doing better than they did in 1980 (i.e. "winning") they necessarily believe that they, the white man, must be "losing." There are two reasons for the obsession with winning and losing by Trump supporters. 1 - They are loving stupid. Literally. They are unable to understand anything beyond a binary choice. Either you are getting everything or you are getting nothing. Its why they call anyone who disagrees with any singular idea a "liberal" or some other version of the imagined pejorative that they have created for someone who doesn't think exactly like they do. Regardless of actual fact. Remember back to when Tomi Lahren got fired from the Blaze and devoured by Trump supporters for saying that the government shouldn't be allowed to regulate women's bodies and her being pro-choice? Thats the mentality of these fucks. It also creates.... Dead Reckoning posted:I mean, in a certain sense, it's true. Previously, if you were a white man, you could more or less expect to have access to a job market wherein minorities and women were shut out of many positions, improving access for you. If you demanded that women, children, and minorities show you deference, society agreed with that expectation. Given that wages have been stagnant and job numbers have not kept up with population in some regions, access to limited employment resources may actually be zero sum. You can quite reasonably say that allowing minorities and women access to the full job market and all of society's other benefits is a good thing, but it's disingenuous to pretend that there isn't a loss for those who used to enjoy privileged access. A situation where this may be true to a degree but a much more ugly situation has developed. 2 - They don't want a bigger pie. They want everyone who is not them to suffer. They will sacrifice success to a degree just so others don't get anything. Its not even gently caress You Got Mine. Its literally "I will give up X,Y and Z just to make sure that those people don't get anything". Trump supporters are a cancer on society and the human race as a collective.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:26
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Let's go back to cruise ships and London fires, I regret my question.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:26
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Zeris posted:Let's go back to cruise ships and London fires, I regret my question. update on destroyer collision: deckies at fault engineers blameless  
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Jun 18, 2017 21:44
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Genocide Tendency posted:There are two reasons for the obsession with winning and losing by Trump supporters. Genocide Tendency posted:2 - They don't want a bigger pie. They want everyone who is not them to suffer. They will sacrifice success to a degree just so others don't get anything. Its not even gently caress You Got Mine. Its literally "I will give up X,Y and Z just to make sure that those people don't get anything".
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Jun 18, 2017 21:45
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Zeris posted:Let's go back to cruise ships and London fires, I regret my question. What do cruise ships and the London tower fire have in common? The 1% wouldn't be caught dead in either
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Jun 18, 2017 21:45
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Dead Reckoning posted:Even if I agreed that it was literally an order of magnitude worse, it's utterly irrelevant as an argument. "Oh, don't you know that little kids are starving in Pakistan? Shut up and be happy with your lot in life." If you remove someone's leg without anesthetic, explaining that doing invasive abdominal surgery, or both legs for that matter, would be worse will not ameliorate their pain. Studies don't actually back this up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/clas...820a_story.html Rural Americans feel detached over culture way more than they feel detached over economics. It is a culture war, and while economics and the decline of the white middle class might play a part in it, framing it in those terms oversimplifies things. Being gay, being black, being Catholic or Muslim. A generation ago, all of those things were considered very bad in many parts of the country. Now people are being told that they have to accept it, and even embrace it. That's a major culture shock. psydude fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 21:55
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Stultus Maximus posted:Except that God Capitalism has always preached that the great thing about capitalism is that the pie can grow larger so that everyone can benefit without hurting someone else. psydude posted:Put another way, uneducated white men are discovering how much it sucks to be everyone else and are holding everyone else accountable for it. I feel like if it was any given Gipper's portion getting smaller, they might feel a little bit differently about fighting tooth and nail to maintain the unfair and essentially arbitrary inequality that separates them from Bangladeshi landfill pickers, despite their shared humanity.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:02
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Dead Reckoning posted:I feel like if it was any given Gipper's portion getting smaller, they might feel a little bit differently about fighting tooth and nail to maintain the unfair and essentially arbitrary inequality that separates them from Bangladeshi landfill pickers, despite their shared humanity. Not really because the underlying problem is the greedy as gently caress dipshits who amass wealth to literally no end other than to have it.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:11
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Bolow posted:Not really because the underlying problem is the greedy as gently caress dipshits who amass wealth to literally no end other than to have it. And a system that encourages it. Tax capital, support labor, I'm a commie bastard, etc.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:15
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Bolow posted:Not really because the underlying problem is the greedy as gently caress dipshits who amass wealth to literally no end other than to have it. Give me a billion dollars and I will immediately be a greedy gently caress. Give most people a billion dollars and they are likely to be the same way. Out of sight and out of mind. It's why we don't care to do much about the starving kids in Africa. If I'm rich, you're likely to be out of my sight and out of my mind if you are poor.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:16
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Ask someone if they'd rather have $20 and another $20 given to another person, or just $10 to them. They'll take the $10.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:19
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Ask someone if they'd rather have $20 and another $20 given to another person, or just $10 to them. They'll take the $10. From an economics standpoint my $10 is more powerful than your $0 than my $20 would be if you also had $20. But most people would choose the $10 out of spite, not out of economic reasoning.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:22
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Two Finger posted:update on destroyer collision: CIC lets out huge sigh of relief.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:22
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Jun 18, 2017 22:23
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Missionary Positron posted:
This truly is the worst loving timeline.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:24
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Missionary Positron posted:
no jury in the world is going to convict whichever mom eats his still-beating heart on tv.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:37
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I take you away from inane bullshit to bring you this special bulletin. We just shot down a Syran jet after it bombed near US forces http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/18/middleeast/syrian-warplane-shot-down-coalition/index.html
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Jun 18, 2017 22:40
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Bolow posted:Not really because the underlying problem is the greedy as gently caress dipshits who amass wealth to literally no end other than to have it.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:45
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Missionary Positron posted:
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Jun 18, 2017 22:46
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ded posted:I take you away from inane bullshit to bring you this special bulletin. Ah good. Monday morning here, kicking off the week right.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:49
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Two Finger posted:Ah good. Monday morning here, kicking off the week right. I'm also seeing chatter about Iran launching a ballistic missile at targets in Syria. 
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Jun 18, 2017 22:50
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I really don't have a problem with us shooting down Syrian planes.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:57
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Friendship ended with Bashar, now Mushroom Cloud is my best friend.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:01
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Casimir Radon posted:I hope one of them shoots him dead and then starts a conspiracy theort that there never was an Alex Jones. What proof do you have that there's a Alex Jones now?
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Jun 18, 2017 23:08
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psydude posted:Studies don't actually back this up. I moved from downtown big city to the sticks in the middle of nowhere and I can say this. gently caress rural "culture". Meth, pills and rampant alcoholism isn't a culture. There's no little farms left that aren't a rich retirement project. It's all drop outs, teen pregnancy, cammo and brodozers. I moved to a town of 4k people trying to avoid the crush of urban life, but now I'm super glad that most people out here are getting pushed out of their hovels by commuters who buy and bulldoze. Better than wife beating Harley try hards and lovely Churches as far as the eye can see. And I live in Washington!
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Jun 18, 2017 23:11
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BigDave posted:What proof do you have that there's a Alex Jones now? Somebody had to come up with all that stuff
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Jun 18, 2017 23:16
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Dead Reckoning posted:Getting rid of the rich isn't on the table in reality, but for a lot of people, all the non-automatable portions of their job being done by people teleworking from south Asia very much is. I don't give a poo poo if people are wealthy but they need to actually do something with their money besides just hoard it like a loving dragon.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:18
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Bolow posted:I don't give a poo poo if people are wealthy but they need to actually do something with their money besides just hoard it like a loving dragon. They do. They use it to lobby the government to gently caress over poors more and get more for themselves.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:22
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Two Finger posted:They do. They use it to lobby the government to gently caress over poors more and get more for themselves. Then I'd like it if our government at least had the common loving courtesy to not be so goddamn cheap when it comes to being bought out 
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Jun 18, 2017 23:25
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I guess Iran lobbed some missiles into eastern Syria as well.
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Bolow posted:Then I'd like it if our government at least had the common loving courtesy to not be so goddamn cheap when it comes to being bought out They aren't. Congress (on average) is wealthy as gently caress.
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